Middle East Conflict | Netanyahu orders strikes on Gaza (p1161)

[bluethrunthru]

So - thats the sum total of arms in a HAMAS command post?

 

[bluethrunthru]

as I have repeatedly said Israel with its extreme violent revenge has burned up the sympathy and support it once enjoyed internationally

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

More killing, more atrocities.

 

[Scottyboi]

So - thats the sum total of arms in a HAMAS command post?

Wythenshawe police station more armed than that.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Wythenshawe police station more armed than that.

The average young farm worker around here wouldn't go lamping that ill equipped to be fair

 

[bluethrunthru]

This is how you walk a fine line

 

[bluethrunthru]

Regev - shout across the questioner and deny everything - he is a fucking joke

 

[bluethrunthru]

and so now the state emboldens the illegal settlerS TO THIS - SHAMEFUL

 

[bluethrunthru]

I hate referencing something like this but as she was sadly killed close to the al Shifa hospital why did the "strategic IDF action that targets only HAMAS not avoid their own military? Two IDF members have died close to where the IDF has been targeting bombardments so if they can avoid civilians why not their own?

 

[Uptop]

Israelis fired on their own, with tanks, helicopters etc. You need to watch the scott Ritter videos, ex American marine and expert in WMD

Russian propagandist and twice convicted underage sex offender Scott Ritter? The same guy who said Ukraine carried out Bucha massacre against themselves and compared them to rabid dogs who needed to be shot?

Do people check who they are using as sources in here?

 

[Vic]

Regev - shout across the questioner and deny everything - he is a fucking joke

Is it deliberate deflection, or has he just lost the plot?

 

[bluethrunthru]

Is it deliberate deflection, or has he just lost the plot?

Nope - deflection

 

[bluethrunthru]

any Israeli of Jewish person who thinks this makes the state of Israeli safer going forward baffles me

'They are killing children': West Bank family see their son shot dead 'by Israeli troops' outside their home

Palestinians in the West Bank are being increasingly squeezed beyond the Israeli checkpoints. It was difficult for a Sky News team to reach the Palestinian town of Tulkarm, but when they got there they met the Mahmeed family - who saw their 15-year-old son killed in the street.

news.sky.com

 

[halfcenturyup]

Oops wrong hospital we meant the one at the other end of the strip ....

Good to know Israeli intelligence is as on the ball now as it was on October7th. Does make you wonder about all this intelligence-led bombing though.

 

[halfcenturyup]

So - thats the sum total of arms in a HAMAS command post?

Command AND CONTROL, no less.

Edit: At what point do we accept they were wrong?

Edit 2: Reminds me of this:

 

[Dax777]

I really don't like the "logic" where you pre-emptively decide it hasn't happened because you personally think it would be stupid .

The indiscriminate bombing and slaughter of more than 10,000 pretty much defenceless civilians in Gaza, bombing and demands to evacuate hospitals would suggest that it is more than likely they they would be prepared to use white phosphorous. They have already shown that (just like Hamas) they couldn't give a shit about who they kill or how.

From what they have been doing it is only a very small step to using white phosphorous.

The source for this was actually The Mail online. While it is a dubious Rag it is also not exactly a left-wing pro-Hamas source and it was a simple report with photos. Does that means they definitely did do it and I don't need to seek any further sources?

I suppose the presentation of solid evidence can change my mind. But on first sniff, it just sounds like propaganda.

U know this thread leans Anti-Israel and that's fine. But I expect propaganda from everyone involved in a conflict and their proxies. And that's what this sounded like to me.

 

[m7mcfc]

Innocent kids are being killed now. I know war is war but for ffs

 

[Vic]

I suppose the presentation of solid evidence can change my mind. But on first sniff, it just sounds like propaganda.

U know this thread leans Anti-Israel and that's fine. But I expect propaganda from everyone involved in a conflict and their proxies. And that's what this sounded like to me.

The thread is anti war crimes and anti atrocities, and anti the causes of atrocities.

I'd say it was anti-terrorism but you'd have to apply it to how Hamas behaved in the cause of a "free Islamic Palestine" and to how Israel became a state. And some would call the French Resistance terrorists, or the Home Guard if they'd ever shot at an invading German (Well, one poster would).

It's pro peace, but peace via war crimes / crimes against humanity (historic and current) seems unlikely to achieve that (and mutually exclusive aims may explain why some parties are not looking for peace).

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Good to know Israeli intelligence is as on the ball now as it was on October7th. Does make you wonder about all this intelligence-led bombing though.

I wish they would have held the compass up the right way though and 6,500 kids might still be alive

 

[Ducado]

This article from Sky kind of sums up what I have been trying to say this while operation has been fuelled by rage and vengeance, there is no plan but destruction and collective punishment, equally as culpable are the Americans for allowing it to go ahead, it’s there weapons and finances and they do have a say in what they are used for

Israel poised for 'second phase' of war against Hamas - but sympathy is waning

More than a month after Hamas's attacks on Israel, questions are being raised about how long the offensive in Gaza can last as support among Western allies starts to ebb away.

news.sky.com