What has the UK become under the far right influence?

city2 said:
You have nothing to accuse me of being a racist it was my opinion after all it’s a forum for discussion I take great umbrage at what you have said and I await your apology
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You will get that when you back your opinion up with facts
 
metalblue said:
The beauty of history is it helps us learn, doing the same thing as before and expecting a different outcome is the definition of insanity I believe.

Do you think rail nationalisation was a positive thing and why?
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No.

Just look at my previous posts for why. I'm not writing an essay for someone who thought it worthwhile posting to tell us that the railways were private until they weren't.

I can always confuse a Tory by asking if they're happy that train drivers are paid so much because privatisation pushed up wages once different train companies had to compete for the same drivers.
 
Vic said:
No.

Just look at my previous posts for why. I'm not writing an essay for someone who thought it worthwhile posting to tell us that the railways were private until they weren't.

I can always confuse a Tory by asking if they're happy that train drivers are paid so much because privatisation pushed up wages once different train companies had to compete for the same drivers.
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Train drivers should be well paid. It’s a hugely responsible job.
 
My grandad was proud that on the Great Central, they got paid more than on the Midland or L&Y. I think it was 6d a day or something like that. So this competition for labour is nothing new.

One consequence of nationalisation was that the grades were standardised across the piece, which was what unions wanted.
 
BrianW said:
My grandad was proud that on the Great Central, they got paid more than on the Midland or L&Y. I think it was 6d a day or something like that. So this competition for labour is nothing new.

One consequence of nationalisation was that the grades were standardised across the piece, which was what unions wanted.
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It's sad but I miss the coloured piping on our jackets we used to get to show our grades.

Technically we're still his majesty's officers of the railways.
 
Vic said:
No.

Just look at my previous posts for why. I'm not writing an essay for someone who thought it worthwhile posting to tell us that the railways were private until they weren't.

I can always confuse a Tory by asking if they're happy that train drivers are paid so much because privatisation pushed up wages once different train companies had to compete for the same drivers.
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I was merely correcting someone who had stated the railways had been private for ~30 years. No need to get so deep about it flower.

I’m happy they get paid a decent wage for the responsibility of the job. I presume you aren’t due to saying that they are “paid so much”. In fact it’s a good demonstration of what happens once you remove collective bargaining - I can always confuse a voter who would vote for a pig with a red rosette with that one.
 
city2 said:
A Muslim state before you know it.
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From John Bowen's Blaming Islam.

".... anti-Muslim writers....assert that Muslims will continue to have high birth rates because the Prophet told them to and because it serves the Islamist strategy to conquer Europe. Anti-Muslim websites predict that in 2050 Europe will be half Muslim. Conservative pundits from Patrick Buchanan and Bernard Lewis to the commentators at the partisan Population Research Institute warn that Europe and Christianity will succumb to Islam because of differential birth rates. The now-viral "Muslim Demographics" video on YouTube tells viewers that France has 1.8 children per family but "Muslims 8.1 children per family" and that "in just 39 years, France will be an Islamic Republic" (Both the BBC and the website Tiny Frog have assembled detailed rebuttals).

Putting aside the faulty data - France does not even collect demographic data by religion - these arguments have two deficiencies. First, total fertility rates (TFR) are falling in many of the Muslim-majority countries sending poor people to Europe. In Morocco, for example, during the period 1985-2003, the TFR fell from 4.5 to 2.5 and is projected to fall to 1.9 by 2030-35, thus approximating European rates. (France currently has a TFR of 2.1). For Muslim-majority countries taken as a whole, TFRs are projected to fall from from 4.3 during 1990-95 to 2.3 in 2030-35, while TFR in developed, non-majority Muslim countries will remain stable at 1.7.

Second, Muslim women born in European countries are doing precisely what demographers predict: having fewer children. Fertility rates for Muslim women born in European countries are declining quickly, heading toward rates for non-Muslim natives. A recent Pew Research Forum study projects that that the percentage of Muslims in Europe will grow from 6 percent in 2010 to 8 percent in 2030. The countries with the highest concentrations of Muslims will be France and Belgium, each with just over 10 percent.

We are far from the scary demographic projections."

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