Joey Barton

wolviedinho said:
Barton’s ramblings is interesting reading up to a point. I am not a big fan of any pundits as most of them actually ruin the enjoyment of watching football.

I don’t like Neville so when Barton has a go at the all knowing one then I find it refreshing. When he has a go at female pundits, I can see the point he is trying to make. When did it become not ok to discuss complex situations without being deemed anti woke, misogynist, racist or whatever else? It’s far too easy to shut down conversations throwing these accusations about.

Worst thing for me in all this is the side taking. Everything has to be black and white, right or wrong and 99% of the time it is just not possible, certainly not in the real world.

The internet and social media has ramped up some sort of mixed up reality.

It’s all fucked up. If you want to get upset about Barton get upset, if you agree with him, that’s also fine. Shutting down debate is not. As an individual, you have a right to be offended but that does not mean everyone has to be offended and outraged.

We all know he is a thug and we all know he is trying to make money from the situation. We also know that some people do get jobs to tick boxes. Getting upset that this all happens is not worth the energy.

I do hope he continues to wind up Neville. Don’t forget this person caused a riot and got a game called off amongst other things. He has been allowed to spout lies constantly with spit on sky sports to reinforce his own agenda. So who is the worst person? Barton or Neville?
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To the best of my knowledge, Neville has never beaten a woman. So Barton, comfortably. Quite sad that you've even asked that.
 
wolviedinho said:
Barton’s ramblings is interesting reading up to a point. I am not a big fan of any pundits as most of them actually ruin the enjoyment of watching football.

I don’t like Neville so when Barton has a go at the all knowing one then I find it refreshing. When he has a go at female pundits, I can see the point he is trying to make. When did it become not ok to discuss complex situations without being deemed anti woke, misogynist, racist or whatever else? It’s far too easy to shut down conversations throwing these accusations about.

Worst thing for me in all this is the side taking. Everything has to be black and white, right or wrong and 99% of the time it is just not possible, certainly not in the real world.

The internet and social media has ramped up some sort of mixed up reality.

It’s all fucked up. If you want to get upset about Barton get upset, if you agree with him, that’s also fine. Shutting down debate is not. As an individual, you have a right to be offended but that does not mean everyone has to be offended and outraged.

We all know he is a thug and we all know he is trying to make money from the situation. We also know that some people do get jobs to tick boxes. Getting upset that this all happens is not worth the energy.

I do hope he continues to wind up Neville. Don’t forget this person caused a riot and got a game called off amongst other things. He has been allowed to spout lies constantly with spit on sky sports to reinforce his own agenda. So who is the worst person? Barton or Neville?
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Nobody has shut down any debate. We're literally here debating it.
 
He’s obviously a complete bell but i did enjoy seeing him give it back to Jeremy Vine.
 
wolviedinho said:
Barton’s ramblings is interesting reading up to a point. I am not a big fan of any pundits as most of them actually ruin the enjoyment of watching football.

I don’t like Neville so when Barton has a go at the all knowing one then I find it refreshing. When he has a go at female pundits, I can see the point he is trying to make. When did it become not ok to discuss complex situations without being deemed anti woke, misogynist, racist or whatever else? It’s far too easy to shut down conversations throwing these accusations about.

Worst thing for me in all this is the side taking. Everything has to be black and white, right or wrong and 99% of the time it is just not possible, certainly not in the real world.

The internet and social media has ramped up some sort of mixed up reality.

It’s all fucked up. If you want to get upset about Barton get upset, if you agree with him, that’s also fine. Shutting down debate is not. As an individual, you have a right to be offended but that does not mean everyone has to be offended and outraged.

We all know he is a thug and we all know he is trying to make money from the situation. We also know that some people do get jobs to tick boxes. Getting upset that this all happens is not worth the energy.

I do hope he continues to wind up Neville. Don’t forget this person caused a riot and got a game called off amongst other things. He has been allowed to spout lies constantly with spit on sky sports to reinforce his own agenda. So who is the worst person? Barton or Neville?
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Probably when the person attempting to have these discussion is doing so in bad faith and using misogynistic/racist/transphobic language?

As an aside, I don't the issues he's discussing are especially complex. He's just being a horrible little prick.
 
Craig said:
He’s obviously a complete bell but i did enjoy seeing him give it back to Jeremy Vine.
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Vine is just as harmful to society. His show just allows him to ask baiting questions answered by twats on both sides like Owen Jones and Mike Parry.

He doesn’t force his opinion, but he allows the platform for dicks to do it for him.
 
ted the grass said:
for me...and I hope I'm wrong ...it looks like the start of a long suicide note.
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Katie hopkins, le tissier, andrew tate, russel brand, tommy robinson , GB News crew none yet to kill themselves - more than happy to push others into that... anyhow, they've all gone down the same path. be extreme, get loads of clicks/followers = make money.
 
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super_city_si said:
Empty vessels make the most noise. He's right about Eluko but the rest of it is attention seeking gobshite.
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He's just using her as a scapegoat to spit his bile

Every jacuzzi is a hot tub, but not every hot tub is a jacuzzi

Every Eni Aluko is a woman, but not every woman is an Eni Aluko

Weird analogy but it seems to work!
 
chris85mcfc said:
He's just using her as a scapegoat to spit his bile

Every jacuzzi is a hot tub, but not every hot tub is a jacuzzi

Every Eni Aluko is a woman, but not every woman is an Eni Aluko

Weird analogy but it seems to work!
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There was one time during a world club where she got a patronising clap from Evra because of how good she was. You can be a good pundit and just get complacent and lazy once established.

I think Aluko as a qualified lawyer can probably put together a good point but the format of programmes and limited time means there isn't really much room for detailed analysis.

Wasn't she on the ITV for Everton and palace?

Two boring teams, who didn't take the foot off the peddle, and play safety first, which means they don't create much chances of score many goals.

There isn't anything else to be said.
 
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Mr Kobayashi said:
There was one time during a world club where she got a patronising clap from Evra because of how good she was. You can be a good pundit and just get complacent and lazy once established.

I think Aluko as a qualified lawyer can probably put together a good point but the format of programmes and limited time means there isn't really much room for detailed analysis.

Wasn't she on the ITV for Everton and palace?

Two boring teams, who didn't take the foot of the peddle, and play safety first, which means they don't create much chances of score many goals.

There isn't anything else to be said.
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To be honest , I find her pretty dull and uninteresting, and at times she seemed to have an agenda against City players. Also she did come out with some utter drivel about City helping out Arsenal in their Rice bid. So pundit wise I think she adds nothing for me, there are lots better both women and men.
 
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