Mr Bates vs the Post Office

[mosssideblue]

No, but you are saying it did exactly as portrayed by a drama on tv.
She certainly visited but as for her demeanour…
Never heard of poetic licence for dramatic effect?

I would think due to the seriousness of the crimes committed and the fact PO can call on very expensive suits to protect them, I would envisage the writers of this drama left no stone unturned in ensuring what they portayed, actualy occured, not leaving themselves open to any libel claims

I know the actor playing Vennels had no wiggle room and her script was presented verbatim

 

[tommybooth]

I get monthly emails from gas and electric telling me it is time to get one. If they a thinking i'm going to take two days off from my retirement so they can fit them, they can fuck off. Also noticed my water was 80 quid a month. Rang them up to find i was 394 in credit. Cunts. Cut to 25 PM.

 

[Elbow beards]

I get monthly emails from gas and electric telling me it is time to get one. If they a thinking i'm going to take two days off from my retirement so they can fit them, they can fuck off. Also noticed my water was 80 quid a month. Rang them up to find i was 394 in credit. Cunts. Cut to 25 PM.

What, your gas and electric are telling you to get a post office? ;)

 

[denislawsbackheel]

I would think due to the seriousness of the crimes committed and the fact PO can call on very expensive suits to protect them, I would envisage the writers of this drama left no stone unturned in ensuring what they portayed, actualy occured, not leaving themselves open to any libel claims

I know the actor playing Vennels had no wiggle room and her script was presented verbatim

“Some names and characters have been changed.
Some scenes imagined.”

The opening disclaimer of every episode.

It’s one thing presenting recorded testimony from a court another when it’s someone’s front room with no witnesses.

 

[Dirty Harry]

I would think due to the seriousness of the crimes committed and the fact PO can call on very expensive suits to protect them, I would envisage the writers of this drama left no stone unturned in ensuring what they portayed, actualy occured, not leaving themselves open to any libel claims

I know the actor playing Vennels had no wiggle room and her script was presented verbatim

Agreed, having been seemingly fucked over at ever turn, I highly doubt, given this was their chance to put their side of the story out there, they made something of that magnitude up, just can’t see it.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

I would think due to the seriousness of the crimes committed and the fact PO can call on very expensive suits to protect them, I would envisage the writers of this drama left no stone unturned in ensuring what they portayed, actualy occured, not leaving themselves open to any libel claims

I know the actor playing Vennels had no wiggle room and her script was presented verbatim

My M-I-L was in it briefly and she was contacted by the writers 7 years ago. It’s been a long time coming.

 

[mosssideblue]

“Some names and characters have been changed.
Some scenes imagined.”

The opening disclaimer of every episode.

It’s one thing presenting recorded testimony from a court another when it’s someone’s front room with no witnesses.

Well, we will never know. I simply dont think the producers would expose themselves to anything that could be challenged, particularly as this was a one shot for them

 

[BlueAnorak]

The Telegraph Article on naming those involved:

https://archive.ph/2Q1Uv

This adds the following to twist of those directly involved:
10. Sir Ed Davy - Gov Minister responsible for Post Office (May 2010 - Feb 2012)
11. Richard Christon - Fujitsu UK Cheif Exec (2000-2004)
12. Gareth Jenkins - Fujitsu UK Cheif Architect for the Horizon Programme from design to delivery.

1. Paula Vennells — Post Office Chief Executive (2012-2019).
2. Angela van den Bogerd —Post Office business improvement director (2010 onwards).
3. Alice Perkins — Post Office chair (2011-2015).
4. Sir Tim Parker — Post Office chair (2015-2022).
5. Dame Moya Greene — Royal Mail chief executive (2010-2018)
6. Alan Cook — Post Office managing director, (2006-2010)
7. David Smith — Post Office managing director (2010).
8. Adam Crozier — Royal Mail chief executive, (2003-2010).
9. Michael Keegan — Fujitsu UK chief executive (2014-2015).

 

[metalblue]

It's really sad isn't it.


I'm waiting for the next scandal to hit.
My money's on Smart Metering from the power companies.
Another techno-wonder that just doesn't feel 100% accurate e.g. stories of consumers being hit with revised bills multiple times greater than previous.
Here's a prime example...

TotalEnergies sorry for overcharging Cornwall businessman

Energy firm apologises after a Cornish businessman was overcharged via direct debit.

www.bbc.co.uk

An energy company has issued an "unreserved apology" to a businessman who was mistakenly hit with a £244,000 bill for a month's energy.

Patrick Langmaid, the owner of Martha's Orchard holiday park at Constantine Bay, said had experienced a "nightmare" since the money was taken out of his bank account via direct debit on 28 December.

Mr Langmaid said his normal monthly bills were between £2,100 and £2,700.


And here's a copy of his bill....

Cornwall businessman gets 'nightmare' £244k power bill by mistake

A holiday park owner says the direct debit amount was a mistake and he is yet to be paid back.

www.bbc.co.uk

Years ago my dad had a bonkers electricity bill. Like 10 times what it normally was. Of course they came and checked the meter, it’s all working fine sir, we will replace it just for your peace of mind. Bill stood, he never had one like it before or after it.

You realise at that point how powerless you are.

 

[denislawsbackheel]

Well, we will never know. I simply dont think the producers would expose themselves to anything that could be challenged, particularly as this was a one shot for them

Having family in TV I can assure you they do anything for ratings.
Don’t get me wrong, I think this is a scandal that should see prison sentences doled out to executives and govt ministers but too many people are treating this tv show as a documentary.
It isn’t, it’s dramatic interpretation of what happened and as all such drama it will have been titivated for effect.

And it worked!

 

[mosssideblue]

Having family in TV I can assure you they do anything for ratings.

We disagree then

 

[Blue Mist]

Have you watched ‘Mr Bates v The Post Office, The Real Story’ ? I watched it and could find nothing that was at odds with the script of the TV drama itself, in fact, they’ve literally used their exact words.

I find it difficult to believe they’d allow something of that nature to pass by without fact checking even with the caveat at the beginning of the programme where it mentions ‘some scenes imagined’ or words to that effect.

My reply was to another poster who intimated it was scripted acting. I was saying the hard faced cow had approached the widow without anyone's knowledge. She then organised a payment and an NDA again without Bates' knowledge

 

[denislawsbackheel]

Reality is more nuanced than tv drama shows.

 

[stevemacca]

Almost as good as the Bet365 model, whose boss Denise Coates "earned" £221 million last financial year to March 2023. That takes her salary to £1 billion over the last 4 years.

And you can bet - sure as shit- that she pays little or no tax on that
Any info on where her company is registered?

 

[Stoned Rose]

The Telegraph Article on naming those involved:

https://archive.ph/2Q1Uv

This adds the following to twist of those directly involved:
10. Sir Ed Davy - Gov Minister responsible for Post Office (May 2010 - Feb 2012)
11. Richard Christon - Fujitsu UK Cheif Exec (2000-2004)
12. Gareth Jenkins - Fujitsu UK Cheif Architect for the Horizon Programme from design to delivery.

1. Paula Vennells — Post Office Chief Executive (2012-2019).
2. Angela van den Bogerd —Post Office business improvement director (2010 onwards).
3. Alice Perkins — Post Office chair (2011-2015).
4. Sir Tim Parker — Post Office chair (2015-2022).
5. Dame Moya Greene — Royal Mail chief executive (2010-2018)
6. Alan Cook — Post Office managing director, (2006-2010)
7. David Smith — Post Office managing director (2010).
8. Adam Crozier — Royal Mail chief executive, (2003-2010).
9. Michael Keegan — Fujitsu UK chief executive (2014-2015).

Consignia’s best 11?

 

[Blue Mist]

Reality is more nuanced than tv drama shows.

Do you agree the cow visited the house ? If so do you agree she broke the agreement with Bennett and then sent the boys round with a compensation offer and an NDA
If the answer is yes, do you think it more likely the smarmy bitch was as portrayed on TV or did she go in all nasty ?

 

[abu13]

Just fucking disgusting.

 

[GaudinoMotors]

More Zeitgeist Dramas clearly needed. Never occurred to me people were unaware of this ongoing debacle.

 

[sir baconface]

A side issue arising from this.

What industry shall we bring under government ownership and supervision next?

 

[Xhavenjoe]

More Zeitgeist Dramas clearly needed. Never occurred to me people were unaware of this ongoing debacle.

The one about The Yorkshire Ripper a few weeks ago was eye opening as well. Police ignoring information on a regular basis.

I think it was called " The Long Call"