I sit close to the press box and earlier in the season I confronted them at the end of the game. I stopped and shouted so they could all hear me. " So what shite are you all going to write about us this time " The security were round me in seconds. I am on crutches so didn't provide much of a threat, just verbal. But had to get something off my chest.Stop them from getting in the ground, force them out by any mean necessary (not all of them of course)
I know it's been discussed in the past but City should be following suit with other clubs and banning some of these arseholes from the ground
Maybe you e-mail was hacked and intercepted, ending up in LivArpool?I e-mailed the club in 2003 to ask how many loyalty points I had (back in the days when we couldn't easily check online) and I'm still waiting for them to answer
I am prefacing this post with the observation that I have deliberately kept away from this thread, and have only read the odd post now and again. Plus I have also purposely not read any further than headlines on News pages.
This is because I am at an age where I like to try to keep my blood pressure down as much as possible by not reading things that are going to get my exasperation and rage going!!
Therefore I am just going to ask one question: Do you as a BlueMoon poster/Manchester City supporter feel that City are innocent of all the charges or at least some of the charges?
I would hopefully get a straight yes or no answer as I am not even sure what charges have been brought. Sorry if I annoy some by not wanting to go deep, deep down into 165 or whatever charges. None of us as fans can truly know what the club are doing but do we think they are guilty?
Personally, through my blue tinted City loving glasses I wholeheartedly want to say no we are not guilty but I am realistic enough to know that the powers that be wouldn't open themselves to ridicule by bringing charges if they weren't satisfied that there is some substance. Plus I know how big business works, there are so many things that go on behind closed doors.
However whatever the outcome I will still state we are THE BEST TEAM IN THE LAND AND ALL THE WORLD. :-) CITY FOR EVER.
We should force them play pass the parcel with a hand grenadineIt shouldn’t be down to the fans, realistically what are we going to do? Give em the finger whilst they’re chowing down on a prawn and cucumber butty, it’s just more ammo for them to spout shite on twitter which then earns them a nice wedge. Ban them, hit them where it hurts.
I sit close to the press box and earlier in the season I confronted them at the end of the game. I stopped and shouted so they could all hear me. " So what shite are you all going to write about us this time " The security were round me in seconds. I am on crutches so didn't provide much of a threat, just verbal. But had to get something off my chest.
Does not compute.Am out in Liverpool on Friday for a few beers with a mate who is a lifelong LFC season ticket holder (and a great guy as it happens ) , will let you know how I get on!!??
I prefer 'Revenge is a dish best served cold'. No point in the club adding to the red parrot racket at the moment.Ever heard the phrase 'keep your enemies close'? It's especially important in business. In the long term it will undoubtedly benefit the club by trying to not let the UEFA relationship completely disintegrate. Love them or loath them, they are our main governing body, the path of least resistance is to try and at least keep the relationship cordial, because they have the ability to causes us considerable long term pain (as we have experienced)
I think you are wrong. I watched a documentary about Amazon and how their workers are treated very recently.Would any other global brands put up with all this bullshit, lies and slander from journalists and rivals?
Maybe I’m wrong but I’m sure if companies like Coca Cola, Apple, Amazon, etc were enduring the kind of witch hunt City face they’d have sued all perpetrators for millions.
Why the fuck are we so fucking soft? It’s no wonder cunts like Carragher, Neville and dickhead journos perpetuate their lies and insinuations, they never have to face any challenge.
How about City pay the right kind of people to make up stories about some of our rivals‘ finances, or certain journos cheating on their wives …
But there aren't 115 discrete or separate offences.I’m sure there will be some things we haven’t done correctly. I can’t see how 115 charges can be brought without at least one being true
Should be fun when we score and you start jumping up.Am out in Liverpool on Friday for a few beers with a mate who is a lifelong LFC season ticket holder (and a great guy as it happens ) , will let you know how I get on!!??
But there aren't 115 discrete or separate offences.
There are essentially 2 - that we overstated revenue because of 'fake' sponsorships and we didn't report payments to a manager and the players.
You could probably split that first one into Etihad and Etisalat, although disguised owner investment is the core of those.
The second is more properly two separate issues, which are Mancini's Al Jazira contract and image rights payments to players.
There are two further offences, which cover FFP and the PL's own financial rules. If the first two can't be proven then these further two are irrelevant.
The 115 comes from splitting these charges across different rules and multiple years. The sponsorship ones cover 50 of the 115 and if the PL fail to land their case on these then that's 50 that fall at one fell swoop.
It's a common theme from fans that "115 charges. You must have done something wrong". That's a complete lack of understanding of the real situation.
I know you are pretty clued about regarding all this and the club in general. Fair play pal.But there aren't 115 discrete or separate offences.
There are essentially 2 - that we overstated revenue because of 'fake' sponsorships and we didn't report payments to a manager and the players.
You could probably split that first one into Etihad and Etisalat, although disguised owner investment is the core of those.
The second is more properly two separate issues, which are Mancini's Al Jazira contract and image rights payments to players.
There are two further offences, which cover FFP and the PL's own financial rules. If the first two can't be proven then these further two are irrelevant.
The 115 comes from splitting these charges across different rules and multiple years. The sponsorship ones cover 50 of the 115 and if the PL fail to land their case on these then that's 50 that fall at one fell swoop.
It's a common theme from fans that "115 charges. You must have done something wrong". That's a complete lack of understanding of the real situation.
City can't speak out publically at the moment because it would undermine our legal position. I would hope we have spoken privately to Ceferin though. When this case is finally resolved hopefully the club will speak openly and in detail making our "irrefutable evidence" clear to the whole world. This is the least our fans deserve. We are the paying customers.Trouble is mate, the media WANT the club to speak out so they can jump on every comment and twist it. It gives them loads more ammunition to write about day in day out.
look what they’ve done to the Ceferin comments - totally twisted, misreported & taken out of context.
By saying nothing, they can only repeat their own opinions & run out of new things to twist. PL look to be relying on bad publicity
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Putting to one side the rights and wrongs of it, it's increasingly hard to argue that the Etihad deal hasn't been amazing value for money for them as a brand. In, say, the same way that it's hard to argue that Kyle Walker, who were roundly mocked for spending that much money on a defender, hasn't been amazing value for money as well. I know City shape the market as much as reflect it, but still.Lets assume the PL strategy behind the 115 charges is to attack the Etihad Airways sponsorship in any way possible, eg by attacking contract docs or lack of contract docs, the methods of payments, stated values etc.
Despite some irrefutable facts:-
1 A large part of East Manchester M11 has been named the Etihad campus for a decade.
2 The Etihad Stadium sign is seen by millions of passengers flying into Manchester Airport on the East Manc inbound route.
3 The millions of people who have seen Etihad Airways ads during ACTUAL visits to the stadium for games/concerts etc.
4 The billions of people who have seen Etihad Airways on MCFC Kits during televised games
5 The millions of MCFC/Etihad Stadium references seen daily on digital platforms all over the globe
6 The millions of passengers who have flown on Etihad Airways aircraft painted in the sky blue MCFC livery.
Many of of our detractors claim the ultimate owner of MCFC is HHSM who is not just a citizen of the UAE but a member of the ruling family with official state roles. Etihad Airways is actually an Abu Dhabi airline but that makes it a UAE entity. So the IC will rule the Etihad Sponsorship is just a convoluted way for HHSM to pump money into MCFC and is therefore disguised equity funding.
Such a decision would destroy our accounting history completely. We know in the past the owner of NUFC directly sponsored his club via his business Sports Direct, and the owner of LCFC directly sponsored his club via his business i.e. King Power. Those are two very dangerous precedents for the IC to ignore.
In case anyone hadn't noticed, to this very day our main sponsor is Etihad Airways, that's six years after the date of the most recent PL charges. Are the PL going to demand the sponsorship must cease ?. The damage to Etihad Airways reputation would be huge. How would they respond after spending hundreds of millions of pounds on a long term sponsorship deal that is judged (after 15 years) to be illegitimate by the PL.
The next legal battle would of course be Etihad Airways v Premier League, and if City are not in the PL why would they care what damage was done to the PL ?
Personally I am resigned to this being a battle that will go on for many years to come.