New League wide financial system.

Gorton_Tubster said:
Are there any experts who actually know what the new rules imply?
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Nobody knows what the new rules are yet because they haven't been voted on, or even presented yet afaik.

The PL being the bastion of transparency and good governance that it is, the only thing we know is from leaks that the PL wants to align itself with UEFA's new rules. The consensus is that this means breakeven is out and squad cost ratio is in, but that isn't what the UEFA rules are about. UEFA still has a breakeven requirement. So who knows?

Whatever the new rule is, you can be sure it will restrict the potential for competition and favour the usual suspects. I hope it all gets voted down and the old rules stay in place. They wanted that shit to stop competition, now they should be forced to deal with it.
 
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So basically fans of clubs outside of us , Liverpool, Trafford , Arsenal and Spurs should just accept they will never compete at the highest level ? They should also be content to have their best players cherry picked every season . If that’s what all this is designed to do then the game is dead .
 
invisibleandalone said:
The red tops aren't getting the backing of all the other clubs. They are getting the backing from all the american owners of the other clubs, after the secret behind door deals.
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But again, Why let United make the rules up as they see fit to suit only them, Liverpool owners should be looking to finish them once and for all, The new 85% revenue spend only benefits United because the system is setup to show every single united game live, United are still the biggest earners from TV rights so that means they earn more money than the rest even if they are not winning titles. Then add the Glory Hunter's armchair views they claim are all united fans and only buy their shirts because they are shown every week on TV.

I know what United have done to get votes from the smaller clubs, They have used the Super League threat and we will walk away and leave you with nothing if their vote does not go through, Just Like the Sky deal in 1992 they used the threat of leaving the smaller clubs with nothing, So the parachute payments was put in place and again the smaller clubs fell for it,
 
From what little we know about the proposed changes it would appear that save the % that the Pl will very much copy and paste the updated UEFA version of FFP. That said I haven’t seen much save the headlines.

UEFA have patted themselves on the back because there now is almost no default whatsoever amongst clubs that get a licence when it comes to paying taxes and football creditors on time

One way or another you would imagine that “ healthy expenditure such as ladies ,community ,academy , depreciation of tangible assets will get added back . Then you wonder will wages for non playing staff , matchday expenses , utility bills etc be added back.

Just by looking at income and then allocation of 85% or whatever will mean that many clubs would cut back on non first team squad expenditure and that would be a complete reversal of the supposed aims of UEFA in terms of encouraging growth outside of men’s senior football.

I said on here the other day that the PL probably should have increased the £105 m threshold . A lot, not all, of the problems that are currently out there would have been avoided.

I would imagine that every PL club will want changes. Some because it will accelerate their growth others because it will enable the owners to take money out of their clubs.

Time will tell but it seems these changes are inevitable
 
forest fan on talkshite just had jordan reeling good job news break was coming up to sweep it under carpet
he basically said clubs GOOD clubs plan for 5/10 years not 3 rolling years and goalposts moving halfway through and its now closed shop to everyone except top 5 clubs
jordan gibbering about owner spending too much to try stay up
 
Centurions said:
A silly analogy really as this is the football pyramid we're talking about. Without the lower leagues there wouldn't be a top tier (not one I'd want to follow anyway).
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The top tier is made mainly of imports now, other than straight academy players that is. The idea that Scunthorpe or Crewe are going to bring the next gem into the premiership is a fools errand.

Just because there is an idea of a pyramid (Too many professional clubs) doesn't mean it's fit for purpose mate.
 
I think the Premier League are shooting itself in the foot stopping outside investment,
Just because United don't like what's happened over the past ten years with not winning the title means football is broken, Even the FFP rules that were put in place were for one thing and one thing only stopping (Manchester City) and not for the good of football and protect football clubs bollocks.

Why are clubs listening to them? and letting them change the rules to suit them, United are so badly run and £1.5billion in debt so what do they know about protecting football clubs from going under? I think Manchester City should be leading the way forward and should be involved in any rule changes about how to protect and build your club without debt.

Maybe Manchester City should offer all the clubs to vote on a new system and league structure and protect lower leagues properly, Fuck United and Liverpool and Skysports subscription packages, Maybe a major internet company could back Manchester City and offer double what Sky are offering and blow them out of the water
 
Corky said:
It is bizarre that new rules that will give City a decent advantage are being complained about.

They can't make up new rules that disadvantage City based on turnover.
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Imagine if we post a 700m turnover in the National league North, we would be able to spend like Wrexham
 
wolviedinho said:
In line with UEFA, so no probs!

85% revenue allowed to be spent on wages & transfers.

Need a new sponsor Mansour!!!
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so,thats even more weighted in favour of the "big clubs" us included ?

e.g.

we get to spend 400m a season, luton get to spend 30p a season, why cant the "smaller " clubs see whats happening, even newcastle will be far behind in the amounts they can spend
 
Sir peace frog said:
so,thats even more weighted in favour of the "big clubs" us included ?

e.g.

we get to spend 400m a season, luton get to spend 30p a season, why cant the "smaller " clubs see whats happening, even newcastle will be far behind in the amounts they can spend
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Pretty much keeps it fair mate. The gap is only going to get bigger now. The clubs at the bottom will be getting hit for 6 weekly if this new abomination is passed.

City have bolted tho so we are ok. It don’t mean it’s right or fair tho.
 
Mancini’s Pastilles said:
If im a newcastle fan or whatever team. Whats the point? Cant spend money and only the big boys allowed dine at top table
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Well if going off the past 3 seasons United have made losses so how could they spend money before reducing the debt as well? Allowing clubs to only spend 85% of revenue should only be for clubs that are not in debt, Clubs in debt should be made to pay off their debt first
 
ancoats said:
Well if going off the past 3 seasons United have made losses so how could they spend money before reducing the debt as well? Allowing clubs to only spend 85% of revenue should only be for clubs that are not in debt, Clubs in debt should be made to pay off their debt first
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Don’t worry Scruffy Jim and Dave Brailsford will arrive with some Jiffy bags to rescue United.
 
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