Lucas Paquetá

[bell_mcfc]

Why offer 85million when there is no other club interested ?

I know he has a release clause, but so did Yerri Mina ( Barca tied him to 100 Million release clause & then sold him for 20 million to Everton )

I think West Ham would be happy to keep him unlike Mina at Barca.

 

[Mad 4 It]

Why offer 85million when there is no other club interested ?

I know he has a release clause, but so did Yerri Mina ( Barca tied him to 100 Million release clause & then sold him for 20 million to Everton )

Why buy him at all. If he comes to City it will be another Phillips scale mistake along with Nunes. Why are we going for these type of players. Give the academy a chance or buy the real quality like Museala , Wirtz, Gavi, etc. we are the best team in the world and have the funds to get the level of quality to keep us there

 

[Gabriel]

While there may be reticence about Paqueta in terms of price, aptitude, and on-field temperament, I think that deep down there is also a degree of reticence amongst us because we know that we simply have to get it right this time. The past two summers’ attempts to find midfield cover for Rodri have been unsatisfactory, put mildly, and our form without him has exposed just how dependent we are on his presence. Another botched deal and we continue to jeopardise the length of Rodri’s career. Paqueta is physically very strong and a big unit- he would be second in that regard only to Rodri- yet I cannot see him playing in the middle of the pitch on his own, so there would have to be someone alongside him. That’s where this summer’s business becomes trickier. Neither Nunes nor Kovacic give me the impression that they would be compatible, and there is nobody in the academy primed to step up, so it’s probably either Guimaraes or Neves. What with the football summer and ongoing investigation, it’s going to be a difficult job moving players out to bring others in, so even if we do land Paqueta, we might still not have all the right pieces on the board by August.

 

[bell_mcfc]

Personally I don’t see the hate about getting this guy. I’d be delighted if we signed him.

 

[Asa's left peg]

I think there is no doubt Pep will improve him. He doesn't need loads. At the moment the Hammers sit back and he has to track, without the ball for long periods. I imagine he will be a different animal, with having the ball more and more options to use it.

 

[WRicko]

I do not see the point in signing him

 

[Alexia_Ko]

Why buy him at all. If he comes to City it will be another Phillips scale mistake along with Nunes. Why are we going for these type of players. Give the academy a chance or buy the real quality like Museala , Wirtz, Gavi, etc. we are the best team in the world and have the funds to get the level of quality to keep us there

Those players wouldn't be happy to ride bench for KDb, Foden and Rodri. And let's be honest most academy midfielders start on the wing for us or end up getting sold.

 

[Tricky_Trev]

While there may be reticence about Paqueta in terms of price, aptitude, and on-field temperament, I think that deep down there is also a degree of reticence amongst us because we know that we simply have to get it right this time. The past two summers’ attempts to find midfield cover for Rodri have been unsatisfactory, put mildly, and our form without him has exposed just how dependent we are on his presence. Another botched deal and we continue to jeopardise the length of Rodri’s career. Paqueta is physically very strong and a big unit- he would be second in that regard only to Rodri- yet I cannot see him playing in the middle of the pitch on his own, so there would have to be someone alongside him. That’s where this summer’s business becomes trickier. Neither Nunes nor Kovacic give me the impression that they would be compatible, and there is nobody in the academy primed to step up, so it’s probably either Guimaraes or Neves. What with the football summer and ongoing investigation, it’s going to be a difficult job moving players out to bring others in, so even if we do land Paqueta, we might still not have all the right pieces on the board by August.

What we need is someone who can play both as a 6 and as an 8, because it’s pretty useless to us to spend wages, transfer fee and a squad place on someone that can ONLY play when Rodri doesn’t. They need to be able to play slightly further forward too so that they get plenty of minutes WITH Rodri and can also cover him when he’s not there. So we need Paqueta (to replace Bernardo, sadly) and as you say, a Bruno G or Neves. What we DON’T need to prioritise is a Wirtz or a Musiala. We literally have Foden and KDB. This is a great blend with Foden taking over the baton going into next season and beyond, with KDB’s minutes reducing. We should buy a right winger so that Foden doesn’t need to play there so much (and also to cover the fact that Bernardo plays there a fair bit and is likely leaving), then forget signing Wirtz/Musiala this window at least, and buy a 6/8 hybrid plus Paqueta. Then also be alert to any market opportunities for a long term Walker replacement. Job done.

 

[Xhavenjoe]

Personally I don’t see the hate about getting this guy. I’d be delighted if we signed him

Scrolled back a little through the thread.
Didn't see any hate for the player. Just reading quotes from some posters who dont want us to buy him or would prefer someone else.
There are several who would like to buy him and reckon he would be a great addition.
Just because you would prefer not to sign him is not hate

 

[TonyM]

Imo the only poor signings are the guys who don't have the inner strength to battle off and on the pitch. I think Paqueta believes in himself a lot more than Phillips did or Nunes does or Doku does or even to some degree Grealish does.

(BTW I hope Grealish, Doku and Nunes keep building confidence and become regular goal threats)

 

[Paulmcfc2703]

Phillips and Nunes are mistakes we seemingly aren't going to learn from. Massively overrated inconsistent player.

Was utterly shit against Leverkusen but gets away with it because he plays for West Ham. Tops off the performance with a stupid yellow card so he misses the second leg. We've pissed money away the last few summers on players from mid table Prem clubs and going for the hat trick with this guy.

 

[Cityinmyheart]

Would be like another Philips & Nunes kind of signing. Would David Silva, Ozil or Bernie be playing at West Ham, Everton or Southampton at age of 26?

 

[JTBlue1999]

Imo the only poor signings are the guys who don't have the inner strength to battle off and on the pitch. I think Paqueta believes in himself a lot more than Phillips did or Nunes does or Doku does or even to some degree Grealish does.

(BTW I hope Grealish, Doku and Nunes keep building confidence and become regular goal threats)

My conspiracy theory is that when Kalvin Phillips showed up to training he realized he was nowhere near the quality of the rest of the squad. Namely Rodri makes him look like a league two player in terms of technical ability. And this in turn ruined his confidence as a footballer, hence why he's struggling even at West Ham.

Not the lads fault at all, but it's an expensive mistake from Tixki and Pep. Need to find a way to offload him this summer.

 

[TonyM]

My conspiracy theory is that when Kalvin Phillips showed up to training he realized he was nowhere near the quality of the rest of the squad. Namely Rodri makes him look like a league two player in terms of technical ability. And this in turn ruined his confidence as a footballer, hence why he's struggling even at West Ham.

Not the lads fault at all, but it's an expensive mistake from Tixki and Pep. Need to find a way to offload him this summer.

Whatever the reason, we need rid asap. I hoped for him to come through it but he hasn't looked to even try.

 

[JTBlue1999]

Whatever the reason, we need rid asap. I hoped for him to come through it but he hasn't looked to even try.

Need Leeds to qualify for the PL and take him back. Maybe Phillips + cash for an Archie Gray deal could be on the table? Then loan Gray back out to them for another season to keep developing.

 

[Blue-Ghana]

Imo the only poor signings are the guys who don't have the inner strength to battle off and on the pitch. I think Paqueta believes in himself a lot more than Phillips did or Nunes does or Doku does or even to some degree Grealish does.

(BTW I hope Grealish, Doku and Nunes keep building confidence and become regular goal threats)

Most Brazilian players have that panache or self confidence,does not mean everyone of them comes good

 

[Gabriel]

Would be like another Philips & Nunes kind of signing. Would David Silva, Ozil or Bernie be playing at West Ham, Everton or Southampton at age of 26?

We would have signed him last summer, aged 25, had it not been for the allegations. We might even have gone for him from Lyon the summer before, when he was 24 and the same age as Silva when he joined, but somehow we were convinced Phillips was better. It’s not always the fault of the player.

 

[richards30]

Pep and Txiki have wanted Paqueta for years but we always had other needs to sort first? Pep now getting the signings he wants it seems

 

[Dribble]

We would have signed him last summer, aged 25, had it not been for the allegations. We might even have gone for him from Lyon the summer before, when he was 24 and the same age as Silva when he joined, but somehow we were convinced Phillips was better. It’s not always the fault of the player.

Philips helped with our English/Association trained quota.

Kalvin starred at the Euros, so no one could envisage how far off the pace he'd be at City.

Looking back at it, it's pretty obvious City realised his acquisition was a mistake from early on, hence why we wanted to move him on after 12 months.

 

[blueparrot]

Philips helped with our English/Association trained quota.

Kalvin starred at the Euros, so no one could envisage how far off the pace he'd be at City.

Looking back at it, it's pretty obvious City realised his acquisition was a mistake from early on, hence why we wanted to move him on after 12 months.

Phillips made no difference to the homegrown quota, we already had 4.Just a signing that didn’t work out, we don’t have many these days but for most clubs and us in the past it’s a fairly regular occurrence.
We’ve just got used to it not being us.