FA Cup Semi Final | Coventry City v United

[Sky Blue]

imagine the uproar if that was us

4-3 to Cov and we are laughed at for eternity.

 

[Stephen230]

Just looked up the var rules for offside and saw the following in an espn guide.

When the blue and red lines touch then the player should be declared onside. The red and blue are so close they’re almost making purple. Certainly no grass between them.

Interesting there’s a 5cm buffer in favour of the attacking player according to the ESPN var offside guide.

Maybe this page is out of date and someone more up on the laws can put me right, or maybe the refs don’t know what they are doing or, far worse, do.

“If the line for the attacker and defender overlap, this is now considered to be too close and the attacking player will be judged onside -- no matter if the linesman raised his flag.

Now when it is so close the lines would touch, a single green "onside" image is broadcast.
Present technology means it cannot be 100%, which is one of the reasons a tolerance level, or margin of error, has been added. This gives the attacking player around 5cm.”

This did mention how the above would have helped 19 offside goals to have been given in the 2020-2021 season so perhaps they’ve tweaked things a since then?

There’s just been an example of it in the Liverpool game. When the two lines would overlap, either way, the graphic instead shows one single line, to indicate it’s a benefit of the doubt decision.

 

[Tolmie scores]

But it would benefit the attacker and lead to more goals.
And chalking off a goal for a marginal call if all of the player was beyond the last defender would seem 'fairer'.
I believe it has been trialled somewhere under the initiative of Arsene Wenger but I read that it was concluded that teams got more defensive and so I'm not sure if it still being considered.

We just need to go back to pure daylight for offside anything else its a goal..

 

[ysmsa]

There’s just been an example of it in the Liverpool game. When the two lines would overlap, either way, the graphic instead shows one single line, to indicate it’s a benefit of the doubt decision.

And no question as to which way that decision goes?

"it's not our fault you have no evidence"

 

[MichaelBBack]

We'd better absolutely smash these cunts in the final. It'd be just like them to jammy their way to a trophy after such an awful season (Christ knows how they're even still in the mix for top six frankly). Can't let it happen.

 

[Stephen230]

And no question as to which way that decision goes?

"it's not our fault you have no evidence"

Not sure I understand the question.

The benefit of the doubt ones are automatically ruled as onside.

 

[deano ou812]

I don’t give too fucks in my opinion Coventry were stitched up in that final minute of ET with the goal..
Needs to be called out for what it is
and how the rags continue to benefit from decisions across the league and cups..

 

[LangleyBlue1970]

We'd better absolutely smash these cunts in the final. It'd be just like them to jammy their way to a trophy after such an awful season (Christ knows how they're even still in the mix for top six frankly). Can't let it happen.

Not a chance, pal. You saw how crap they were/are.

It will be a day we clinch the double. Another derby win. Another show to the world who we are, and who they aren’t. I cannot wait.

 

[Stephen230]

We just need to go back to pure daylight for offside anything else its a goal..

You can’t go back to something that has never existed, other than in the minds of TV ‘experts’

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

If we can’t beat that shite we want shooting. I think with a weeks break and no CL to play, we will absolutely hammer them.

 

[jim tolmies perm]

Its offside if you dont put the line in the right place and/or dont measure from the end of the defenders foot but the middle instead

Also look at the size of his left boot compared to the right...the right is made to look shorter....by someone doctoring the line over the toe end

 

[SWPISHOME]

My heart goes out to Coventry, We've been their before with a last minute goal taken away from us, It's a horrible feeling.

VAR is an absolute joke. He's onside.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Will Onana be suspended for the final? He got 2 yellows today.

 

[Kippax77]

I don’t give too fucks in my opinion Coventry were stitched up in that final minute of ET with the goal..
Needs to be called out for what it is
and how the rags continue to benefit from decisions across the league and cups..

It even occurs in the draws for cup competitions.
Didn't they just go over 2 yrs getting drawn at home in cup draws?
There's alot of murky shit happening behind the scenes in English football.
It's no wonder they don't want an outside regulator snooping about

 

[Feed the Elk]

Simple answer is to have automated offside not some blind/bent/bias/bribable person running it, then it’s quick and acceptable to fans.

* blind/bent/bias/bribable (delete as needed)

It still wouldn’t be 100% accurate as it still relies on the frame rate of all the cameras which doesn’t currently exist. Which is why there needs to be a margin for error allowed, and one which is more than a frickin toe

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

Quite right. Thing to remember is what the offside law was introduced for.
It was brought in to prevent what we used to call ‘goal hanging‘. It was not introduced to try see if a bloke with size 11 feet is marginally closer to the goal that the bloke with size 6’s!
Have never understood why they don’t just say, if ANY part of an attacker is onside, it’s onside. It’d clear all this nonsense up once and for all and would help the assistant referees no end.
Finally, to people who say ‘they’re the rules’, so is the rule saying the keeper should be behind the line until the kick is taken, which was undoubtedly ignored in that shoot out.

Spot-on. And when VAR was brought in, without any consultation with the paying customers, we were told it would only be involved in clear and obvious errors but now it is being used to referee matches. It is a total farce. In fact the entire governance structure of football is not fit for purpose.

 

[Kippax77]

Will Onana be suspended for the final? He got 2 yellows today.

Apparently not, the wanker

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Apparently not, the wanker

Is that official?

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

It still wouldn’t be 100% accurate as it still relies on the frame rate of all the cameras which doesn’t currently exist. Which is why there needs to be a margin for error allowed, and one which is more than a frickin toe

We never get shown the frame from when the ball is played.

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

Is that official?

They said it on the commentary. I don’t think he gets any kind of ban which seems ridiculous. What is to stop any keeper doing it? Having to use gamesmanship to get to a final against fucking Coventry. Tragic.