United Thread - 2023/24

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For all the Utd fans saying their money and success was achieved entirely within the applicable rules of the time:

Utd's sugar daddy was floating on the stock exchange. The financial returns expected of Stock Market companies were against FA rules, so United, (like Tottenham Hotspur before them), bypassed those rules by forming a holding company, Manchester United plc, and floating that.

Also they have done many off the books sweeteners to get players. Busby organised the purchase of a house for Duncan Edward’s parents. This was done to persuade him to sign for United rather than his local team, Wolves, who he had been associated with previously.

Then Busby arranged for 16 year old Peter Lorimer's dad to be given a brown envelope containing £5,000 to sign for them, (in the early 60s that was 10 times the average annual industrial wage!). After he insisted he wanted to join Leeds, his dad handed it back.

When Ryan Giggs signed his mum had her house fully kitted out with white goods.

When Nicky Butt signed his dad drove out of OT in a brand new Mercedes etc...
 
Plain Speaking said:
For all the Utd fans saying their money and success was achieved entirely within the applicable rules of the time:

Utd's sugar daddy was floating on the stock exchange. The financial returns expected of Stock Market companies were against FA rules, so United, (like Tottenham Hotspur before them), bypassed those rules by forming a holding company, Manchester United plc, and floating that.

Also they have done many off the books sweeteners to get players. Busby organised the purchase of a house for Duncan Edward’s parents. This was done to persuade him to sign for United rather than his local team, Wolves, who he had been associated with previously.

Then Busby arranged for 16 year old Peter Lorimer's dad to be given a brown envelope containing £5,000 to sign for them, (in the early 60s that was 10 times the average annual industrial wage!). After he insisted he wanted to join Leeds, his dad handed it back.

When Ryan Giggs signed his mum had her house fully kitted out with white goods.

When Nicky Butt signed his dad drove out of OT in a brand new Mercedes etc...
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And every rule change about redistribution of revenue has benefitted The Rags such as stopping the sharing of gate receipts and the way broadcasting money has been shared since the formation of The Premier League.
 
Plain Speaking said:
For all the Utd fans saying their money and success was achieved entirely within the applicable rules of the time:

Utd's sugar daddy was floating on the stock exchange. The financial returns expected of Stock Market companies were against FA rules, so United, (like Tottenham Hotspur before them), bypassed those rules by forming a holding company, Manchester United plc, and floating that.

Also they have done many off the books sweeteners to get players. Busby organised the purchase of a house for Duncan Edward’s parents. This was done to persuade him to sign for United rather than his local team, Wolves, who he had been associated with previously.

Then Busby arranged for 16 year old Peter Lorimer's dad to be given a brown envelope containing £5,000 to sign for them, (in the early 60s that was 10 times the average annual industrial wage!). After he insisted he wanted to join Leeds, his dad handed it back.

When Ryan Giggs signed his mum had her house fully kitted out with white goods.

When Nicky Butt signed his dad drove out of OT in a brand new Mercedes etc...
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The bit about Nicky Butt certainly isn't true as a knew his Dad Terry. Nicky was always at ushited as all the family were reds. I don't ever recollect Terry running about in a Merc.
 
It's amazing to hear their manager say how exciting utd have been this season.
They have smashed an incredible 52 goals,wow, 3 more than Luton town who are in the bottom 3 relegation places as we speak...

That alone proves the manager is talking bollocks.

A goal difference of plus 1........compared to City s goal difference of plus 50...mind the gap.

It's one thing having a terrible manager,... but when he talks deluded nonsense in public .. it's all a bit embarrasing.
Any true utd fan should hang their head in shame all summer.

A team going ....Nowhere Fast.
 
Plain Speaking said:
For all the Utd fans saying their money and success was achieved entirely within the applicable rules of the time:

Utd's sugar daddy was floating on the stock exchange. The financial returns expected of Stock Market companies were against FA rules, so United, (like Tottenham Hotspur before them), bypassed those rules by forming a holding company, Manchester United plc, and floating that.

Also they have done many off the books sweeteners to get players. Busby organised the purchase of a house for Duncan Edward’s parents. This was done to persuade him to sign for United rather than his local team, Wolves, who he had been associated with previously.

Then Busby arranged for 16 year old Peter Lorimer's dad to be given a brown envelope containing £5,000 to sign for them, (in the early 60s that was 10 times the average annual industrial wage!). After he insisted he wanted to join Leeds, his dad handed it back.

When Ryan Giggs signed his mum had her house fully kitted out with white goods.

When Nicky Butt signed his dad drove out of OT in a brand new Mercedes etc...
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Can't remember the name but wasn't there some kind of deal done for a Villa in Portugal for Ferguson for signing a shit Portugese player? Djemba Djemba maybe?
 
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On the train this afternoon......

Fuck off!!!
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ganganvince said:
www.tshirtsunited.com

City: Dirty Cheating Bastards T-Shirt

Everyone knows exactly what they are; they are a bunch of dirty, cheating bastards. The ship is sinking, the rose is wilting, and we have 115 on each side to represent the number of charges against them.
www.tshirtsunited.com www.tshirtsunited.com
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Fucking hilarious if thousands of blues show up at Wembley in it.
 
wolviedinho said:
Even better, if we manage to win the league. Everyone should have one for the parade. Oh the scenes would be glorious-:)
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Rather than give the rag the cash surely we have a del boy on here who could slightly tweek the design and flog it?
 
eastmanc said:
The bit about Nicky Butt certainly isn't true as a knew his Dad Terry. Nicky was always at ushited as all the family were reds. I don't ever recollect Terry running about in a Merc.
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Nicky got a blue BMW M5 when he signed. I know because he parked it on my dads drive when he was in the Cotton tree!
 
If Chelsea win their next game (v West Ham) and the rags lose (v Palace), both of which are possible, the rags are down to 8th and could well be failing to even qualify for either of the Thursday nighters.
Since the FA cup runners up don't qualify for Europe what would that do to their shopping budget for next season :-)
 
RodneyRodney said:
From the Caf:
"Any confidence I did have (and there wasn't a lot other than it being based on "lets wait and see what they do") has been completely removed with this "our whole squad is for sale" stupidity.

Its the sort of thing a child or one of the more unhinged people on here would do. Throw the toys out of the pram because CL qualification has disappeared over the horizon and it means your wallet gets hurt, basically. Shouldn't have fecking taken on part ownership under the mantra of wanting to make the club successful again if you weren't prepared for an entirely forseable thing to happen that might make it more difficult.

There's no actual sound strategy to it because whatever you raise ofree up selling players will need to be re-invested to replace them, and if you've undervalued every single player but putting them all up for sale at once, any money you recoup from that is only going to get you someone worse, or at best a young/unproven player who will be a big gamble.

There is no example of a team that has been successful by effectively trying to threaten its players into doing better. There is no example of a team that's sold and replaced most of its squad in a very short space of time (without losing a sh*t tonne of money in the process) and then suddenly got loads better. Most of the time when teams have done things like this they have ended up getting relegated.

Its dangerous to pretend hat INEOS are doing isn't extremely stupid/wreckless based on nothing other than them being new/not the Glazers. Ratcliffe, and this was my issue with him from the start, has a track record of this sort of behavour. Where he doesn't seem to understand that paying people money doesn't mean they are slave to his will. It might work when you're up against weak unions or near minimum wage workers. It isn't going to work as a tactic on millionaire footballers or the nuances of creating a succesfully performing football team from them."

Poetry.
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Can you not see that it’s City’s fault that the rags are run by a bunch of amateurs? It’s not fair.
 
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