They are fed their info indirectly from our enemies at LFC and MUFC and Spurs so they only get one version.
The PL are hardly likely to say "Well actually, we've fucked up here and are trying to find a mutually acceptable way out" are they?Not keen on either - but they will be the first to get anything from the Premier League side.
If they are writing that the hearing is taking place as scheduled in Autumn they I would believe that.
Yeah, it was not long after the CAS verdict.Before the 115 charges?
Has he ever had to back anything up before? He just gives an emotional, reactionary performance to whatever is happening.Doesn’t mean the **** doesn’t want to keep the Ponzi Scheme going.
Personally, I think he’s lots of things, but daft isn’t one of them. To make such a specific claim and to not meaningfully follow through with it would invite a level of opprobrium that could be hugely (and possibly fatally) damaging to his brand. Whilst I’m sure he appreciates pretty much all publicity that he receives, good or bad, he will be aware that not all publicity is good publicity especially in relation to a brand that is built of straw - and I expect the fear of losing what he has carefully created and built upon will loom large in his consciousness.
We’ll see tomorrow, I guess.
No shame in being wrong on this, one way or the other btw, and no basis for bragging rights for anyone who calls this right either. It’s simply a (fun) guessing game based mainly on supposition and limited evidence, in relation to a subject that has captivated so many of us for over a year.
Never a dull day supporting this fucking amazing football club!
Make it make sense ffsWell anyone who pleads guilty to a charge in a UK court should just sue absolutely anyone else who’s acquitted or innocent... although I’m struggling to work out on what grounds if you’ve pleaded guilty! Some people….
Ziegler backed that rogue video last summer without checking its provenance and without checking the facts. What he described as a new story had appeared in the Grauniad some time before and had been debunked. The £100m was the Etisalat sponsorship, and the mystery man was a known loan broker. The ’new scandal’ had been discussed at CAS. Not much of the story left after that. Not reliable at all Mr. Ziegler.Pair of anti City wankers, didn’t Ziegler state we wouldn’t win our CAS appeal?
No one is sure, until someone produces one.Are we 100% sure these letters have actually gone out?
As I previously mentioned, I don't have interaction off TS with Simon so don't know. Others have confirmed no letter.
So all being well,it’ll just be non cooperation that they’ll have us on ?The PL are hardly likely to say "Well actually, we've fucked up here and are trying to find a mutually acceptable way out" are they?
No more than City were ever likely to say "Despite all our protestations of innocence, we are bunch of lying cheats".
I've no doubt that the official line is that the hearing will still go ahead later this year. But I'm also in little doubt that the balance has significantly shifted in City's favour.
Correct, Ziegler's been corrected numerous times by blues on Twitter.Ziegler backed that rogue video last summer without checking its provenance and without checking the facts. What he described as a new story had appeared in the Grauniad some time before and had been debunked. The £100m was the Etisalat sponsorship, and the mystery man was a known loan broker. The ’new scandal’ had been discussed at CAS. Not much of the story left after that. Not reliable at all Mr. Ziegler.
They are probably right the hearing is scheduled for Autumn and at this point in time it will be held then. But there will be pre hearing discussions and if the PL are told their evidence is as flimsy as the evidence at CAS and they have little hope of success, then discussions will be held regarding cancelling the hearing and getting a withdrawal agreement. The PL are not going to brief journalists to print that it is a lost cause and they are stuffed. They are going to remain bullish in the hope they can get the best withdrawal agreement. If these two journalists can predict what will happen in the Autumn ask them for winning future lottery numbers. They are either paid to print someone's line or guessing, like most of us.Ornstein and Ziegler who are the two most reliable main stream journos on these topics ( and goto for the PL with leaks ) have both stated this weekend there has been no change - and hearing will be held in the Autumn.
Prove it!So all being well,it’ll just be non cooperation that they’ll have us on ?
Has he ever made such a specific statement of intent before? Especially in relation to this subject matter?Has he ever had to back anything up before? He just gives an emotional, reactionary performance to whatever is happening.
He’s got an easy way out of this by saying his lawyers have advised him that he can’t show the letter, but that he could read out portions of it. This gives him the chance to write his own letter and as no one else is saying they’ve received one, no one can 100% verify its veracity.
Yeah, maybe, but he’s a slick enough operator to elude just enough to satisfy his audience without breaking any libel laws.Has he ever made such a specific statement of intent before? Especially in relation to this subject matter?
Think the reading out of a fictional letter would be skating on very thin ice. Like I said before, the **** is lots of things but daft isn’t of them. Plus, he will unquestionably be legally advised and no lawyer of any competence or repute, would advise reading a fictional letter out purported to be from an organisation with the resources of City.
You appear to be only able to see as far as the fictional character without stepping back and seeing the commercial operation and the considered decision making that lies behind that. He will not play fast and loose with what he has built up for himself, which such a course of conduct would surely do.
Oh I did mate - all of themTry reading the posts
This case is, I think, different from the UEFA one in that regard. There was a court hearing about the arbitration issue, plus the discovery process and to what extent we were obliged to disclose documents.So all being well,it’ll just be non cooperation that they’ll have us on ?
It's certainly interesting to think about who the club have gone after legally.Conn hasn't commented about the PL charges at all since the CAS verdict. I'd say that wasn't coincidence. Although why we haven't gone after racist Ronay I've no idea.
And Conn was also heavily involved in parroting that narrative, which further hardens my suspicions that action was taken.It's certainly interesting to think about who the club have gone after legally.
In Winterbach's case, he was still trying to intimate he had evidence of our guilt shortly after the CAS verdict.