City launch legal action against the Premier League | Club & PL reach settlement | Proceedings dropped (p1147)

I’d be amazed if it’s United , Liverpool , Arsenal , Spurs , Villa , Newcastle and Chelsea who have sided with the PL , those , aswell as City are the biggest losers if these sanctions are allowed to continue, I doubt it if it’s the likes of Wolves , Palace et al that have sided with City , but at the end of the day these restrictions affect all PL clubs , all City are doing is telling the PL to fuck off for everyone’s benefit aren’t they?, there seems to be a 50/50 split , I don’t see Everton or Forest voting against us , they’ve been shafted more than any club with these rules the PL have dreamt up. It’s one rule for all that City are after.
This article indicates that Manchester City, Newcastle, Chelsea, Everton, Nottingham Forest and Sheffield United voted against the Premier League and Crystal Palace and Burnley abstained.
 
What evidence could other clubs possibly have that they can step forward with.

I remember Liverpool claiming that the number of sponsors at that level is limited and that City's contacts are so overwhelming that their club is at a disadvantage. I suppose the corollary is that City get the pick of the best sponsors, and other potential sponsors may not want to upset City by sponsoring its competitors? Not sure what else they could have apart from that. And not sure how true the arguments are, or if they have any legal merit anyway.

Apart from that, they could just show support for the rule and sporting fairness, neither of which will carry much weight in the final analysis I imagine.

The question at the end of the day is whether the APT rules are legal or not, and that depends, imho, on whether they are needed or not to maintain sporting integrity. There is a good argument for fair value, of course, but the "man on the Clapham omnibus" in me says the onerous requirements approved recently around APTs, targeted clearly at a couple of clubs, are on shakier ground.

Could all be bollocks, of course :)
 
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You mentioned the rags mate , like I did about 20 plus pages ago , so yeah , I’m on the same drugs as you by all accounts , so why do you think the rags might be on our page ?
Potentially, because of Ratcliffe, multi club ownership, voting with City against the new anchoring rules that ties a club with 5x the amount of TV revenue of the bottom club, poaching Berrada.

You also mentioned, Arsenal, Spurs and Liverpool, non of which will be in our corner.
 
Makes us look greedy and dismissive of the league as a whole.At the same time they are defending the 115 charges too, so I’m sure greater minds than mine are behind this, but it won’t win us any popularity contests.Also, if unlimited spending prevails, we risk turning premier league into La Ligurian or SPL !Not sure how I feel on this.

It only makes the club look greedy and dismissive of the league as a whole if you accept the way this is being painted in an article using cherry-picked phrases from a huge (and presumably very complicated) legal document, chosen by someone who doesn't have the capacity to understand the legal issues at stake, and supported by quotes from an unnamed source presumably being the same guy as the one who gave the document to the journalist in the first place. The whole article was written by a guy who couldn't pick up on the legal nuances, only the issues that a football journalist would recognise.

Have a little more confidence in the people who own the club. They deserve that, at least, and I have no doubt they know what they are doing and why.
 
They have no choice , much like any big club

if the rags are on our page - so are our other previous enemies
Not necessarily, with scruffy Jim now in charge of football matters at the swamp he could well have a very different view to the US owners of Liverpool, Arsenal and others on the associated party rule change.
 
Not necessarily, with scruffy Jim now in charge of football matters at the swamp he could well have a very different view to the US owners of Liverpool, Arsenal and others on the associated party rule change.

Simply put, he wants to pump in as much money as he can from Ineos. These rules may prevent that, assuming they are applied to United, of course.
 
The comments sections are off the charts. Demanding we’re Hung drawn and quartered immediately, this proves we’re guilty, biggest cheats in history, got the most expensive lawyers, time wasting….id imagine there’ll be ‘fans’ all over the place unable to concentrate at work, seething, waiting for the next piece of sensationalised drivel from the usual suspects, whilst most of Dublin conveniently ignores the disgusting news emerging about the sponsors splashed across their club pyjamas.
 
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So annoying reading this horseshit, considering the UK press helped United demonise and diminish the achievements of first Blackburn, then Chelsea and then City during United's reign as the dominant club, for years(all because Fergie had them eating out of his hand). They made out investment was something new, "bought it" became a common phrase, which they'd use to suggest those clubs did something unfair on 'poor honest United'. I worked out, while tearing a Liverpool's fan to shreds(the 'I hate United but..." bullshit), for trying to boil it down to a "monopoly that lasted 5 years", that:

Without those 3 clubs, who 'bought success' and 'ruined football', United would have won 17 out of the first 21 PL seasons. 1993-2013, 13 titles + the 4 that were "bought"/"stolen" from United.

Since the first PL season ended in 93, maybe it's time we started counting the decades that way, for comparison's sake?

First decade,1993-2002: United won 7 out of 10 titles. They did a back to back twice in the first 5 years and then a 3-peat. Blackburn's single title win(where United were runners up), meant they were only the only club stopping United kicking off the PL era with a 5 in a row. And they still moaned and had the press fighting their corner.

Second decade, 2003-2012: United won 5 out of 10 titles, which included another 3-peat. Chelsea in 2006 and 2010, then City in 2012, were the only clubs stopping United rounding off that decade of PL football with 6 in a row. And again, the press were fighting firmly in United's corner, saying those clubs were harming the league, rather than making it more competitive. Chelsea also stopped Arsenal winning the title in 2005, which probably added fuel to the fire against them.

Third decade, 2013-2022: United won in 2013, which would have marked a 7 in a row for United. City were the only club stopping United(even though they weren't really close or that good) winning the title twice in that decade(2018 and 2021). City stopped Liverpool winning the title 3 times in much closer title races(2014, 2019 and 2022). They won 5 out of 10 titles in that decade. Which included 1 back to back at the mid-way point and they ended it with another.

4th decade, 2023-2032: So far, City have picked up the first 2 titles, which marked a 4-peat, which started at the end of the last decade. City have stopped Arsenal winning the title twice, so far(2023 and 2024).

Total times the big sly 3 clubs have been denied titles, by non-big sly 3 clubs(excluding Leicester = no money argument): Blackburn denied United 1(1). Chelsea denied United 2, Arsenal 1(3). City denied United 3, Liverpool 3, Arsenal 2(8).

The pattern with the press narrative in all of this, seems to be that anyone who stops United, Liverpool or Arsenal winning a title, is ruining football and must doing something wrong.

Although, it was probably always coming after Fergie retired, City's and Chelsea's accumulative effect on United's dominance, could have swiftened their decline and had an influence on the timing of Fergie's departure as manager. It could be said, many clubs, including Spurs and Leicester, did things that might not have been possible without someone breaking up the status-quo. The powers that be, probably wanted an Arsenal or Liverpool to be passed the torch but it was too chaotic for any such plans to be made.

The PL became the most watched league in world football in the 2010s, off the back of the competition brought about by City and Chelsea(even Neville has admitted this, in so many words). I've seen some denying this but who would deny there were plenty of Brits obsessed with Italian football during the 90s? Same as there were with Spanish football in the 00s, where they had Pep's Barca and Real's Galactico's. They were the glamour leagues that were looked up to, in those decades. Now, English football is the league that is looked up to or envied at least and it's not solely off the backs of United, Liverpool or Arsenal, as some "cretins" in the press would tell it.

Edit: I couldn't find a way to fit in the irony of the 'immeasurable damage to the PL' emotional plea. To use their favourite phrase: But what about City?
by their mental gymnastics they actually stole the champions league that completed their treble. They won it despite not being champions of England taking advantage of the changes to the European cup that they and their greedy cohorts threatened UEFA to make.
 
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Example...

I was one of those 'Super Heads'. I was drafted in to turn around failing schools. So, late one Friday afternoon, I was stomping around putting out fires started by terrible teachers trying to manage angry kids, kids mostly hewn from angry homes. The usual failing school cocktail, tbf.

I noticed a pile if leaves outside the Science block. It was quite large, but it would be, what with a lad hiding underneath. He preferred that to the Chemistry lesson he was avoiding. I understood. What a school that was. Turned it around though, in time. Epically difficult work, but paid ridiculously well.
After coming up to 20 years in schools I hear you. Have many stories to tell. Mostly sad & not great over a pint, but what I see over and over again is ‘Der Fisch stinkt vom Kopf.’ Getting back on topic it’s the same with the premier league and I hope this is the start of that rotten, venal leadership being exposed and sorted out.
 
Are we just challenging the latest rules changes? I know that’s what has triggered it but our arguments are challenging the fundamentals of the rules implemented in 2021.
Good point. Perhaps the compromise position is simply to revert to the position before Feb.
 

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