City launch legal action against the Premier League | Club & PL reach settlement | Proceedings dropped (p1147)

butlerkb said:
Makes us look greedy and dismissive of the league as a whole.At the same time they are defending the 115 charges too, so I’m sure greater minds than mine are behind this, but it won’t win us any popularity contests.Also, if unlimited spending prevails, we risk turning premier league into La Ligurian or SPL !Not sure how I feel on this.
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City are not arguing for unlimited spending. There is no challenge to PSR, there is no challenge to UEFA related sponsor rules etc etc. We are merely challenging one PL rule, ie Associated sponsors and the PL being about to reduce our income by setting the VALUE of our freely negotiated contracts.
Lawton’s article is a disgrace.
(Is he married to an exec at the Arse?)
PS That’s Slot apparently who is married to the chief commercial officer at the Arse. Oh, that’s ok then.
 
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dario2739 said:
Could it possibly be intended that way... could this be the PL's face-saving strategy the club agreed to?
Bring this claim and get it thrown out... making the PL look good, because they've lost the case against us and the 115 charges?!?
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But what is today doing to our clubs reputation?
 
KS55 said:
City are not arguing for unlimited spending. There is no challenge to PSR, there is no challenge to UEFA related sponsor rules etc etc. We are merely challenging one PL rule, ie Associated sponsors and the PL being about to reduce our income by setting the VALUE of our freely negotiated contracts.
Lawton’s article is a disgrace.
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Which makes me believe the leak is from the PL and given it to Lawton on condition he does a hatchet job on City.
 
blue for life said:
He admitted though that he doesn’t have all the information or what will come out next week. He also said the restrictions could prove unlawful in which case we win
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Competition law cases aren't easy to win, apparently, but it has been done before and we know nothing really about the club's claims.

Still seems to me the February 2024 rules are excessive, burdensome and discriminatory way beyond what is required to regulate the fair values of sponsorships. But what the fuck do I know?

Have to wait and see I suppose :)
 
IrishBlueSince92 said:
Fans are entitled to criticize the club, or at least ask questions of them or doubt them. In my opinion.
We've been defending them to the hilt for the last 8-10 years now in the face of accusation after accusation.
That's not me saying that I haven't been doing my best in defending my club the past 24 hours!
In lay mans terms, its quite hard to put a good argument favouring City in terms of yesterday's news.

We are allowed to stop and ask, why have we done this, it doesn't look good etc.
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I disagree... when you say "it doesn't look good", i'd argue that a biased media is framing it to look that way, when in reality we are challenging the validity... the legality of a rule that was specifically brought in after Newcastle were bought.
I don't want a situation where stupid sponsorships are OK'd, but who are the PL to question the value of some sponsorships? And ultimately we know WHO is actually pulling the strings here - and this challenge could be a backdoor way of laying bare, for all to see, the true corruption in the PL. It's not the democracy the media and fans are painting it - it's three bullies making everyone tow their line... but now more and more clubs are refusing to bow to them and that's what's frightening them!
 
If some of our own fans don’t understand why we have done what we have done, what chance does an uneducated idiot fan from another club have. Many in society now believe everything they read without having the slightest idea of thinking for themselves and challenging the narrative that is being written and why. Give me strength.
Anyway, for what it’s worth. I think it’s a good move, it’s a stand, we’re not being rode over roughshod without a fight. We may win, we may not but we’ve put a marker down and as for the 115, what will be, will be.
I’ll be there whatever the result.
CTID
 
halfcenturyup said:
Competition law cases aren't easy to win, apparently, but it has been done before and we know nothing really about the club's claims.

Still seems to me the February 2024 rules are excessive, burdensome and discriminatory way beyond what is required to regulate the fair values of sponsorships. But what the fuck do I know?

Have to wait and see I suppose :)
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Probably as much as the canutes who formulated the rules in the first place. The object was simple - stop City winning anything. They'd find it mildly acceptable at a pinch if we were there or thereabouts, but stumbling at the final hurdle and one of their redshirt dahlings came away with the pot. And then they find the rules they've drafted don't quite fit into anyone's sense of fairness.
 
It’s does seem odd that the premier league can go beyond related party with this associated party. Not sure how different the rules are.
 
One very frustrating thing, no-one ever (in comparison to us/115) mentions the cartel clubs causing the breakaway of the PL, the Super League (which we were last to join & first to leave if I remember correctly), project Big Picture (arguing for abolishing the league cup, community shield & less games), FFP, Arsenal directly asking the PL to investigate us for alleged overspending, and a bunch of stuff I’ve probably missed.

In business & in sport, you can broadly win in 3 ways. Be better, invest more, or create monopolies to stop others spending. Why isn’t restricting what clubs can spend seen as ruining the league?

We have NEVER said ‘oh we’re self-generating now, let’s close up shop and stop anyone else getting close’. All we want is to be allowed to invest as we see fit, same as was when United, Arsenal & Liverpool were all very successful.
 
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