City launch legal action against the Premier League | Club & PL reach settlement | Proceedings dropped (p1147)

[MadchesterCity]

Alice Pooper?

Is that her from Alice talks?

 

[swinton blue]

This was obviously brought in February and has been leaked yesterday.
We wouldn't have leaked this so it's all on the prem league leaking it 4 days before a hearing so they can gey the public on side.
All other fans calling city out for cheating but if we do win this legal action it goes to show how bent the prem league is and it deserves to fall apart if everything being stated by us is true

 

[J.G.Blue.]

This is exactly how I feel as well. I have been a City fan for the best part of 60 years and all this “noise” is ruining my enjoyment of the game. I just want to watch my team play football. I am also struggling to understand why APT rules are a bad thing. I don’t really want to see a league where the team with the deepest pockets wins all the prizes.

I can see your point but the trouble is the team with the deepest pockets have with the odd exception always been the team winning the most prizes & it never seemed to be a problem in the past,
The difference is now its City winning the most and all the other former winners dont like it so keep pushing for rule changes to try and stop it.

 

[mattcity5]

I don't follow...

So we lose the challenge, meaning that the charges against us are at least on firm legal ground... and in spite of this, the PL subsequently lose their case against us? And this works to "save face" for the PL?

Would give them a 'win' against us and possibly show they aren't useless and rolling over for us in some people's eyes?

I don't think this challenge relates to the alleged breaches, though I could be wrong.

 

[KS55]

So there’s no conflict of interest here , just a regular day at the office.

Ah, I think I named the wrong marriage above. Sorry. It’s Slot.

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

This was obviously brought in February and has been leaked yesterday.
We wouldn't have leaked this so it's all on the prem league leaking it 4 days before a hearing so they can gey the public on side.
All other fans calling city out for cheating but if we do win this legal action it goes to show how bent the prem league is and it deserves to fall apart if everything being stated by us is true

Thats what I assumed too. Good timing of the leak.

 

[Betterdeedthan red]

Fair market value should have nothing to do with related ownership matters.

What is fair market value.
The rags paid 90 million for Anthony.
Isn't his agent ten hags brother.
That was 90 million pounds.
Not 90 million pieces of sand .

 

[BlueMoonAcrossThePond]

Would give them a 'win' against us and possibly show they aren't useless and rolling over for us in some people's eyes?

I don't think this challenge relates to the alleged breaches, though I could be wrong.

It's absolutely about the alleged breaches against us. We are claiming that extant rules are illegal on the basis that they limit fair competition.

City's legal challenge to Premier League to begin on Monday

Manchester City’s legal case against the Premier League’s associated party transaction (APT) rules will begin on Monday, June 10. City are suing the league in an attempt to have the rules — which they claim are unlawful — abolished in a two-week private arbitration hearing. The Premier League’s...

www.nytimes.com

 

[ufo]

It begs the question, if as Stefan said we are very unlikely to win this case, why have the club taken it on?

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

The PL have been giving us a kicking since we won the first pot in 2011, and have not ceased since. City might think it's time to kick back!

Why did Masters fuck off to The Emirates on the last day? Tells you everything. Had it been Liverpool or MANUre who were in the driving seat for the title would he have been at The Emirates then?

Not a chance , the blokes nothing but a shill.

 

[KS55]

I dont understand it but get in .Mr Pannick in action again, about time we took on the prem and the yanks , the cunts have been going for us for years

Hey Masters, don’t Pannick.

 

[mattcity5]

It's absolutely about the alleged breaches against us. We are claiming that extant rules are illegal on the basis that they limit fair competition.

City's legal challenge to Premier League to begin on Monday

Manchester City’s legal case against the Premier League’s associated party transaction (APT) rules will begin on Monday, June 10. City are suing the league in an attempt to have the rules — which they claim are unlawful — abolished in a two-week private arbitration hearing. The Premier League’s...

www.nytimes.com

The APT rules were introduced in 2021 - aren't the alleged breaches from before then? I'm not sure where the cut off date is off the top of my head.

 

[hammocity]

...also a fan of the Arse

West Ham

 

[Skrastins]

does anyone has link to @projectriver interview ?

 

[bluwes]

Just asking a question regarding sponsorship and owner related companies.
Obviously our sponsorship is looked at and then decided if it fair market value by an independent company.
Am I right in saying that for example Emirates can sponsor arsenal for let's say 500 mil a year and this doesn't have to be looked at because Emirates don't not have anything to do with owning arsenal or are all sponsorship deals looked at by this independent company

And there is another interesting bit, who are the so called independent company that vets the Sponsorship deals

 

[BobKowalski]

Never mind all this talk of good guys and bad guys, its very hard to imagine that we're totally innocent of everything, to be perfectly honest.

So what's the end game here, if we do win the case and take the Premier League down as many City fans are calling

It isn’t taking the PL down. It’s about continually crafting regulation after regulation to try and hold some clubs back. At some point it becomes self- defeating. And this isn’t a court, it’s an arbitration process within the PL rules. Clubs are allowed a voice if they feel they have a grievance.

The current model with capped squad sizes and proposals to cap earnings yet increase the demands on the players with more games, increased playing time etc isn’t sustainable. To do the latter you need bigger squads and bigger earnings. Artificially restricting both, yet demanding more is a nonsense.

 

[HelloCity]

Fans are entitled to criticize the club, or at least ask questions of them or doubt them. In my opinion.
We've been defending them to the hilt for the last 8-10 years now in the face of accusation after accusation.
That's not me saying that I haven't been doing my best in defending my club the past 24 hours!
In lay mans terms, its quite hard to put a good argument favouring City in terms of yesterday's news.

We are allowed to stop and ask, why have we done this, it doesn't look good etc.

This is what happens when you’re swayed by propaganda, haven’t heard City’s side of the story, and aren’t that close to the club you support.

 

[Eccles Blue]

Got to say, to a layman (which I am) it seems that the APT rules are there for good reason and I can't see why, of all things, we are trying to pick those apart.

Personally, I'm sick of it all to my stomach. I just want to watch football and celebrate my team. This is really detracting from the joy of the sport.

This is exactly how I feel as well. I have been a City fan for the best part of 60 years and all this “noise” is ruining my enjoyment of the game. I just want to watch my team play football. I am also struggling to understand why APT rules are a bad thing. I don’t really want to see a league where the team with the deepest pockets wins all the prizes.

I thought it was only me being an FOC(Funny old codger) who felt this way. For me just watching the football is all I want to do, politics and deviousness were things I dealt with in my 'previous life' now I just want to relax and enjoy the BEST TEAM IN THE LAND AND ALL THE WORLD.

I acknowledge that I should simply ignore the thread and I am trying to do that but keep getting the feeling that when the world is against my club I ought to be reading what they are saying and defending the club.

I actually switched off my account this morning thinking I would leave here for a while but then found myself coming back as a visitor!! So yes I should simply ignore the thread but it is difficult.

 

[KS55]

It begs the question, if as Stefan said we are very unlikely to win this case, why have the club taken it on?

He’s guessing a bit. The evidence is the thing and no-one has seen it yet. I assume he believes that such challenges are inherently difficult to win. Pannick, however, is not beyond stretching a point.

 

[lancs blue]

I'm not so sure Ric. Three different Ineos group companies are among Nice's biggest sponsors and surely Scruffy Jim will be wanting some significant Ineos sponsorship for the rags.

Yes,if you look at the clauses in the new rules (attachment on p147) Ratcliff and Ineos seem to fall squarely into a number of them.