England Squad - Euro 2024

And for everyone saying a midfield 3 of Bellingham, Foden, Rice wouldn't work, look at the composition of the best midfields over the last 20 years. Busquets/Xavi/Iniesta Casemiro/Kroos/Modric Fernandinho/Silva/De Bruyne. All have a 6 - 8 - 10 setup and none of them did too badly. You only need to play 2 defensive midfielders if your forwards don't do the defensive work and none of the lads in the England squad are lazy fuckers who don't run for the team, now St Marcus has been fucked off anyway!
 
Kippax Street 1880 said:
And for everyone saying a midfield 3 of Bellingham, Foden, Rice wouldn't work, look at the composition of the best midfields over the last 20 years. Busquets/Xavi/Iniesta Casemiro/Kroos/Modric Fernandinho/Silva/De Bruyne. All have a 6 - 8 - 10 setup and none of them did too badly. You only need to play 2 defensive midfielders if your forwards don't do the defensive work and none of the lads in the England squad are lazy fuckers who don't run for the team, now St Marcus has been fucked off anyway!
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Rice isn't a number 6. Arsenal's form with him at 6 was so shite they played Jorginho and then Partey in there with him. England don't have a number 6 so you have to play two "holding" where one is the front foot enforcer and one sits in.
 
Kippax Street 1880 said:
And for everyone saying a midfield 3 of Bellingham, Foden, Rice wouldn't work, look at the composition of the best midfields over the last 20 years. Busquets/Xavi/Iniesta Casemiro/Kroos/Modric Fernandinho/Silva/De Bruyne. All have a 6 - 8 - 10 setup and none of them did too badly. You only need to play 2 defensive midfielders if your forwards don't do the defensive work and none of the lads in the England squad are lazy fuckers who don't run for the team, now St Marcus has been fucked off anyway!
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Difference there is that Busquets/Xavi/Iniesta is a 6 behind two 8s, Casemiro/Kroos/Modric is two 6s behind an 8, and Fernandinho/De Bruyne/D. Silva is a 6, 8, and 10. Rice/Bellingham/Foden is a box-to-box behind two 10s. If Rice was a proper 6 and Bellingham was an 8, then we'd have no problem. Playing someone like Wharton, Mainoo, Gallagher, etc. next to Rice takes the pressure off him defensively, which is where England would come unstuck without them.
 
youngbob said:
Difference there is that Busquets/Xavi/Iniesta is a 6 behind two 8s, Casemiro/Kroos/Modric is two 6s behind an 8, and Fernandinho/De Bruyne/D. Silva is a 6, 8, and 10. Rice/Bellingham/Foden is a box-to-box behind two 10s. If Rice was a proper 6 and Bellingham was an 8, then we'd have no problem. Playing someone like Wharton, Mainoo, Gallagher, etc. next to Rice takes the pressure off him defensively, which is where England would come unstuck without them.
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I’ve watched England seriously struggle to score goals against top teams and be penned in their own half for long periods using the set ups you propose.
 
HelloCity said:
I’ve watched England seriously struggle to score goals against top teams and be penned in their own half for long periods using the set ups you propose.
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And I've watched them get knocked out by technically superior sides with more disciplined midfields using the set-ups everyone else is proposing.
 
HelloCity said:
I’ve watched England seriously struggle to score goals against top teams and be penned in their own half for long periods using the set ups you propose.
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Because we don't have a deep lying playmaker. The best sides tend to have someone in deeper positions that runs the game and dictates things. We have Rodri. Those sides listed had Busquets or Kroos with Casemiro doing the leg work for him, or Ferny. We've had Rice and Henderson or Rice and Phillips. None of those players is capable of dictating play, picking it up off his defence and playing forwards. Rice needs it when he's facing the opposition goal and can move forwards. The only player who looks to be capable of that deep lying role is Wharton, but it's a huge call to throw him in. Even then you'd probably want Rice-Wharton to be the partnership but there's an argument to say you play Bellingham in his Dortmund box-to-box role and leave out Rice.
 
Who cares about England under Southgate, They are on an EasyJet holiday with a quick return tickets this summer

Southgate is a clown, Foden is the best player in Europe and demands the major attack midfield role, But we know Bellingham will get the Nod with Rice and Saka will be given the ball at every opportunity
 
youngbob said:
Difference there is that Busquets/Xavi/Iniesta is a 6 behind two 8s, Casemiro/Kroos/Modric is two 6s behind an 8, and Fernandinho/De Bruyne/D. Silva is a 6, 8, and 10. Rice/Bellingham/Foden is a box-to-box behind two 10s. If Rice was a proper 6 and Bellingham was an 8, then we'd have no problem. Playing someone like Wharton, Mainoo, Gallagher, etc. next to Rice takes the pressure off him defensively, which is where England would come unstuck without them.
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Bellingham isn't a 10 and has never been a 10. He played as an 8 for Birmingham and Dortmund and as a false 9 for Madrid because they have no striker and he's a good finisher.

I do agree Rice is better slightly further forward, but he's still the best option as a 6. He's solid defensively and great in the air.

You also have Stones and TAA in there who can step up to help Rice from defence or invert from full back.
 
It's good for us, he can rest and get ready for next year.
It's shite for him as he misses out.
Are those going instead of him game changers? only time will tell
 
What was the point of having a 32 man squad and then cut it to 26 BEFORE the last friendly?

It's almost a certainty now Foden will play on the left wing when pretty much everyone including Foden wants him to play in the middle. And we're going to play with 2 DM's now properly Gallagher or god forbid Alexander-Arnold.

Southgate is fucking clueless
 
kippaxwarrior said:
What was the point of having a 32 man squad and then cut it to 26 BEFORE the last friendly?

It's almost a certainty now Foden will play on the left wing when pretty much everyone including Foden wants him to play in the middle. And we're going to play with 2 DM's now properly Gallagher or god forbid Alexander-Arnold.

Southgate is fucking clueless
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The take no chances and win fuck all management style.
 
kippaxwarrior said:
What was the point of having a 32 man squad and then cut it to 26 BEFORE the last friendly?

It's almost a certainty now Foden will play on the left wing when pretty much everyone including Foden wants him to play in the middle. And we're going to play with 2 DM's now properly Gallagher or god forbid Alexander-Arnold.

Southgate is fucking clueless
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Anorld isn't a bad call at CM. He is a fantastic passer of the ball and a dead ball specialist.
 
urban genie said:
It's good for us, he can rest and get ready for next year.
It's shite for him as he misses out.
Are those going instead of him game changers? only time will tell
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I think the opposite, Jack's biggest critic is himself, He's very hard on himself when you hear him talk in numerous interviews, I think Jack being left out is a bad thing for us in my opinion.

It's clear as day with Grealish when he's low on confidence, As we've seen in the treble winning season he's at his best when he's playing regularly.

I hope you're right of course.
 
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