City launch legal action against the Premier League | Club & PL reach settlement | Proceedings dropped (p1147)

Revolver said:
Saw this and without side tracking this thread (flattering myself!) I thought what are the Manchester MPs and the Mayor doing whilst this hate fest goes on against a Manchester club?
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It's a great question because CFG are the biggest investors in the city of Manchester and the most important partner the local authority has got. Thousands of jobs and hundreds of businesses are being put under threat beacuse of a politically-motivated witchunt by a corrupt cartel and a racist UK media.
 
SWPISHOME said:
It's needed now because the so called "big clubs" have been completely taken over. The powers that be are trying to put a stop to it.

It's funny reading the likes of "All football clubs and fans want is a level playing field"...

Eh, There's never been a level playing field, The Rags have spent more than anybody else in the Premier League (still doing it to this day), They were successful years ago because they bought up every top player whilst the rest of the league hadn't a pot to piss in...

Real Madrid with all the Galacticos, No moaning about that either, Apparently it was great that they were spending millions buying all the top players!

The so called "elite" are throwing their toys out of the pram now because little City are winning everything, They succeeded in stopping Newcastle spending money because they are afraid of there lives that they'll also overtake them all (which they would have).

Although it's OK for your stadium to be falling apart, Being £900m in debt, Yet still spend £80m on 32 year olds...That's fine.
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I think what the Premier League have done will make potential new owners question if they want to invest into a club that would be shackled and prohibited from spending what a club needs to spend to be a In a position to win trophies.

The clubs that will stop them from spending are their opposition in the league.

If that isn’t anti competition I don’t know what is.

Why would any new owners want to invest into the premier league, unless it was to milk the club of money like the glazers are doing. In my opinion this is the beginning of the end of the premier league.
 
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nmc said:
You make it sound like the Home Office rules are applied objectively all of the time but, there are loads of anomalies.
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Probably. But that is not the Premier league deliberately stopping us having a player.
 
marco said:
to busy for us, he's busy with keir Starmer and the rest of the Labour chums sucking freebies up at the swamp while planning how there going to explain a billion pound stadium to the taxpayer
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To be fair it's not a political point I am making. City have plenty of allies in the Labour ranks who will fight our corner moving forward, not least because Labour are just as keen on an independent regulator as the outgoing Tories were. I just think Burnham has been ineffective as a Mayor for Greater Manchester and I don't think that is an uncommon view.
 
I've sent a little note to Andy Burnham.


Man City have raised a legal query regarding the Premier League rules. The press coverage has been generally hysterical. I have yet to see a major media outlet say that if the Premier League rules are deemed illegal then Man City's challenge is justified. We live in a democratic society where we should all be able to reasonably challenge the process. That is all Man City have done. Andy, are you going to at least provide some balance by making a statement? Man City have invested heavily in Manchester and created a lot of quality jobs for local people. As Mayor of Manchester this is an opportunity to show you are a balanced and fair minded person.
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It will probably get ignored, but you never know.
 
nmc said:
Agreed but there are numerous examples of big clubs getting preferential treatment.
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Really? Kind of doubt that. But even if there was, it would be by the home office, not by the PL who are not the ones that issue the work permits.
 
Bez said:
I've sent a little note to Andy Burnham.


Man City have raised a legal query regarding the Premier League rules. The press coverage has been generally hysterical. I have yet to see a major media outlet say that if the Premier League rules are deemed illegal then Man City's challenge is justified. We live in a democratic society where we should all be able to reasonably challenge the process. That is all Man City have done. Andy, are you going to at least provide some balance by making a statement? Man City have invested heavily in Manchester and created a lot of quality jobs for local people. As Mayor of Manchester this is an opportunity to show you are a balanced and fair minded person.
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It will probably get ignored, but you never know.
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Kin scouser, he’ll take no notice
 
Oldham Exile said:
Something that I have not seen any comment on (although I have not been able to read every post) - is the issue that I am sure was mentioned when the news broke.

Along the lines that CITY had evidence - in the form of quotes from one of the PL clubs - that demonstrates that there is clear discrimination

Did I just dream that ?
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No.
 
abu13 said:
I see that Leicester after just gaining promotion are going to have to sell in order to meet the PSR rules, as if it isnt hard enough to survive after promotion.
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It is ridiculous. I think if enough clubs are emasculated by the PSR/FFP rules, the tyranny of the majority could shift to the clubs that are not members of the Red Cartel. Which in short means the supposed smaller clubs organise themselves to put a stop to the strait jacket of PSR/FFP.

When the bigger clubs start buying up all the talent from the other clubs that have potential FFP/PSR issues to deal with the PL will become less competitive which has to be a bad thing. Aston Villa is a perfect example. Qualified for the Chumps League but may have to sell players.

Crazy times.
 
Paladin said:
He'll have a job. He's not currently an MP.
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He’ll win his seat back.

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Mraitch said:
Why don’t City put forward a proposal that states you cannot compete in the premier league with debt above a certain level. Convince 13 other clubs and allow the “tyranny of the majority” to kick United out. See how the media like that.
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I remember reading about FFP back in the day. I remember reading that clubs that had a lot of debt would be banned from the Champions League. It's strange that now debt doesn't count. I can't imagine why that might be.
 
Jam Tomorrow said:
The term “tyranny of the majority” is really powerful if you step back and think about it. Whereas the media are saying City are using it because they don’t like democracy, just rewind half a century when the tyranny of the majority made homosexuality a crime, those so called criminals were subject to abuse, prison and in some cases medical procedures to “cure them”.

That my friends is an example of the tyranny of the majority.
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‘She’s a witch!’
 
abu13 said:
And how do they arrive at a fair market value? As an extreme example what if 12 years ago 5 clubs all submitted shirt sponsor ship deals for the same amount, Lets assume the clubs were The Rags, the dippers, Arsenal, Spurs and us.

I would be pretty confident that the people evaluating Fair market value would have put them in the order below.
1. Rags.
2. Dippers.
3. Arsenal.
4. Spurs.
5. City.

Jump forward 15 years and whose shirt sponsor would have had the best deal?
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Great point. Another good analogy is the FTSE 100. If you looked at the list 10 years ago it would be different if you looked at it today. The issue the PL need to get their heads around is that change happens, the tectonic plates actually move. Trying to maintain the status quo means they will have to come up with increasingly barmy ideas that are protectionist rather than pragmatic. It's war and City are leading the charge. There will be blood on the carpet...hopefully it won't be ours.
 
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