Denmark v England - Thu 20th June, 17:00 | Euro 2024 Group C

[Churchlawtonblue]

True. That’s it we’ve played average teams with this unbalanced side and struggled so badly. Imagine what a good team will do against us.

Spain would destroy this England midfield and set up.

 

[Fernster]

The one thing I'm worried about is that this may be hindering his chance of being the next manager of Manure.
I'm imagining him getting the scum relegated and my dream may be getting denied.
Let's hope that Ineos see something that we don't!!

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

No sign of you know who on here since mid afternoon yesterday. Has he seen the light?

I like many of us I suspect like bluehammer, but no one can defend Southgate after yesterday , he simply proved how inept he is. That interview afterwards was a car crash and truly showed his lack of managerial knowledge. I'm expecting a you were right post, but we are where we are so we need to get behind him for this tournament?

 

[hertsblue]

They will still win the group, luckily as normal for Southgate the qualifiers and group draws have been very very kind and they will get who ever finishes 2nd in Germanys group next so another favourable draw and they should also win that.
There are no real stand out teams, Spain despite their great build up play struggled to score, Germany have won games you would expect them to, France struggled so as crap as England have been i still would not bet against them winning it, however unlikely it seems now.

 

[Indaparkside]

i still would not bet against them winning it, however unlikely it seems now.

Have you been on the whacky backie More chance of staying dry inside the swamp in march

 

[Crooked_rain]

I thought Rice played in Phillip position ? Or does he mean he needs to holding midfielders ?

That's what he means. Southgate simply won't play without two deeper lying midfielder.

Has he never seen Stones play? He can step into midfield when we have possession, then back into defence when we won't. Stones is pretty much the best reason any team could have for not bothering needing two holding midfielders.

It's so simple. Foden as your 10, Bellingham 8. Rice in his position he is now with Stones stepping in to help him when we have possession, which would probably benefit Rice a lot too.

Everyone can see it, even the pundits are calling for it, just not Waistcoat who is bringing up Phillips.

It's actually quite funny how clueless he is.

 

[bluemoon32]

As sometimes happens at tournaments, a coach will luck upon a system, forced on him, due to injuries or form issues.
The issues are so obvious that the coach, against everything he believes in, has to make changes and suddenly everything clicks into place.
This isn't a coach displaying superior judgement or tactics, it's blind luck.
I have the feeling Southgate is going to get extremely lucky

 

[give it to gordon]

Southgate has before this tournament created a very good spirit in the squad but it looks from the outside that has changed in this Euros.

Maybe it's time the senior pros came together and sorted it out, maybe for once play power is needed.

But there maybe is the the issue, I have no doubt Walker would have his say, but Arry Kane? FFS what a weak individual and never a leader in a million years and a born loser despite his numerous scoring achievements.

The team look split, bellend to big for his boots, Kane plays for himself, taa lol, no left back, no tactics. City's must be thinking what is this shit southgate is talking.

Than look at the club managers klopp, Arteta, Pep etc all very passionate guys, full of energy and enthusiasm. Than look at southgate a boring grey man with the personality and enthusiasm of a damp squid.

 

[Keeper!]

The team look split, bellend to big for his boots, Kane plays for himself, taa lol, no left back, no tactics. City's must be thinking what is this shit southgate is talking.

Than look at the club managers klopp, Arteta, Pep etc all very passionate guys, full of energy and enthusiasm. Than look at southgate a boring grey man with the personality and enthusiasm of a damp squid.

100% agree.

The sooner we are knocked out the better and our lads get on their deserved holidays.

 

[supercity88]

I like many of us I suspect like bluehammer, but no one can defend Southgate after yesterday , he simply proved how inept he is. That interview afterwards was a car crash and truly showed his lack of managerial knowledge. I'm expecting a you were right post, but we are where we are so we need to get behind him for this tournament?

I get where he comes from on a lot of stuff. We'd all probably pick slightly different squads and systems and tactics so there's never going to be universal agreement for what an England manager does, and overall his record has been second to Sir Alf. You can talk about easy fixtures and a lack of getting over the line in certain games, but there have been good England squads in previous decades who haven't got out of groups or have been far worse. This isn't the best collection of English players ever, when you look at the technical ability of the likes of Spain and Germany we're miles off - no one wants to keep the ball for starters.

But whilst most of us are incredibly critical (rightly), he is willing to just ignore it and back the team - I would imagine as you say he'll take the point as it means we're pretty much assured of qualifying one way or another.

 

[supercity88]

The team look split, bellend to big for his boots, Kane plays for himself, taa lol, no left back, no tactics. City's must be thinking what is this shit southgate is talking.

Than look at the club managers klopp, Arteta, Pep etc all very passionate guys, full of energy and enthusiasm. Than look at southgate a boring grey man with the personality and enthusiasm of a damp squid.

That's the biggest worry for me. You can forgive poor performances. It's tournament football after a long season and sometimes you just don't turn up. But his post-match comments were ridiculous. Admitting he didn't know what he was doing and mentioning Kalvin Phillips as the reason for the experiment was ridiculous. And then saying it wasn't his instruction for the team to drop off....yet he sat on his arse watching them rather than giving them a fucking rocket or trying to change things.

I think we'll improve, but I'm probably misguided.

I think there's a clear instruction from Southgate to drop in and not lose any games in the group to make sure we get through and to also conserve energy for the latter stages. He'd rather we were flat but qualified if it means we have more energy than other sides in the knockouts. Maybe there's logic to that. We'll see.

 

[Petethemancinleeds]

Bonkers idea. Pep needs months of working with players to get them to understand his system. Plus England don't have the players to play his system. Plus City come before any country. I can't believe a City fan would want Pep to leave us for England.

When he leaves where would you prefer him to go? Open your mind, to the possibility of us still seeing our best English lads regularly coached by him. It takes him 3 months to get them back in tune after Southgate anyway , bonkers if he really wants to stay but he did say he is closer to leaving than ever. His choice not yours or mine.

 

[Blue Mist]

I don't know why you post on this forum, you aren't a blue and tend to stir shit. Mustn't be much going on to go out of your ways and post on a random forum.

Out of order. Magic is a good lad, his hair needs a lot of attention but that's by the by.
He is a jock so I don't blame him commenting on our total shit show.

 

[jimharri]

I like many of us I suspect like bluehammer, but no one can defend Southgate after yesterday , he simply proved how inept he is. That interview afterwards was a car crash and truly showed his lack of managerial knowledge. I'm expecting a you were right post, but we are where we are so we need to get behind him for this tournament?

He's okay. His music contributions on here are excellent. And, of course, he'll defend West Ham. But, for the life of me, I can't see how he can defend Southgate after this. Yes he's got us to a major final as well as a semi final and a quarter final (separate tournaments, by the way!). But you can't live on past achievements. And that display yesterday was spirit crushing. I thought our display in the cup final was awful, but yesterday was a whole new level of ineptitude. And let's be (Thomas) frank here; Denmark are not exactly a world power in football. But they looked the more accomplished side for the bulk of the game yesterday.

 

[GaudinoMotors]

I get where he comes from on a lot of stuff. We'd all probably pick slightly different squads and systems and tactics so there's never going to be universal agreement for what an England manager does, and overall his record has been second to Sir Alf. You can talk about easy fixtures and a lack of getting over the line in certain games, but there have been good England squads in previous decades who haven't got out of groups or have been far worse. This isn't the best collection of English players ever, when you look at the technical ability of the likes of Spain and Germany we're miles off - no one wants to keep the ball for starters.

But whilst most of us are incredibly critical (rightly), he is willing to just ignore it and back the team - I would imagine as you say he'll take the point as it means we're pretty much assured of qualifying one way or another.

The technical ability is every bit as good as in those teams. It's also younger and supposedly fitter.
The blame is firmly at that weak but nice, yes man's door. Tactically and in motivation he's is woefully lacking.
The do it for nice Gareth honeymoon is long over. We now need a football manager.

 

[mancboy]

He's okay. His music contributions on here are excellent. And, of course, he'll defend West Ham. But, for the life of me, I can't see how he can defend Southgate after this. Yes he's got us to a major final as well as a semi final and a quarter final (separate tournaments, by the way!). But you can't live on past achievements. And that display yesterday was spirit crushing. I thought our display in the cup final was awful, but yesterday was a whole new level of ineptitude. And let's be (Thomas) frank here; Denmark are not exactly a world power in football. But they looked the more accomplished side for the bulk of the game yesterday.

The scary thing about yesterdays game is that he watched it from the sideline and must have thought the front three were the problem based on his substitutions and if he watched that and came to that conclusion then he should pack his bags before the next game and thats before you even get started on the insanity of that post match interview.

 

[Sky Blue]

No sign of you know who on here since mid afternoon yesterday. Has he seen the light?

He's on ignore for the tournament so wouldn't know.

 

[Saddleworth2]

Anyway, to give a little balance, I think Kyle has played pretty well in these two games. In fact I would go as far and say he has been our most consistent player.

as for the rest of it?
80% on Southgate
20% on the players as a collective - they could be doing more to resolve some of the issues. Let's face it, all but two or three come from possession based, high press attacking teams. That isn't the way any of them are playing just now.

And whilst I'm on it. Shearer. What a **** that man is. England flop to the floor at final whistle 'Look at them, they look exhausted. That is ridiculous. There is no excuse for that'.

Other than playing 60 games a season for the last five seasons with nary a break.

 

[Big Joe Corrigan]

I don't know why you post on this forum, you aren't a blue and tend to stir shit. Mustn't be much going on to go out of your ways and post on a random forum.

He’s only posting what many of us are thinking, it’s been an utter shitshow this far. and as Blue Mist said, he’s got lovely hair.

 

[Magicpole]

I don't know why you post on this forum, you aren't a blue and tend to stir shit. Mustn't be much going on to go out of your ways and post on a random forum.

Not random at all, my uncle was a Man City fanatic and I grew up through all the shit times for City and was delighted how things turned out. Because of that, City have been my favourite English team. I don’t know if that qualifies me, but it fucking should. As for stirring shit? What you on about? Show me an example of that.