Denmark v England - Thu 20th June, 17:00 | Euro 2024 Group C

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Why was Shearer banging on about Stones failure to join up in midfield and push forward like he does at City? Is he really that fucking monumentally thick? Does he not realise it’s a plan that city train and work on constantly, where other players know where to be when he does and what positions to take up? That he doesn’t just take it upon himself on a whim.
You could pick random people from the streets and put them in those studios and they would make more sense.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
for those concerned about my disappearance!

fair to say it was a heavy one.

Positives - Harry Kane off the mark, Walker and defence good again, Top of the group, Unbeaten. the Danes i was with enjoyed it.

Negatives - we was poor again, slow, gave away the ball loads- i wasn't against Trent in the middle as i like his range of passing and he can score - but i concede it doesn't look like it's going to work for him there.

I think GS will make a few changes against Slovenia
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I see you as Bluemoons England correspondent so I’d like ask you your views on a couple of things (genuinely not taking the piss).

- do you think England dropping back after scoring is on Southgate?

- do you think Foden should be in the 10 over Bellingham?

- has Palmer left his shin pads in London?

- why is Rice not able to play the 6 on his todd?

- why does Southgate think Phillips is Ngolo Kante?

- why does Kane think he can keep dropping into midfield and give us no outball? (relating to this, why the fuck does Southgate not tell him to stay up top and stop getting in every other fuckers way)
 
Phil1 said:
Why was Shearer banging on about Stones failure to join up in midfield and push forward like he does at City? Is he really that fucking monumentally thick? Does he not realise it’s a plan that city train and work on constantly, where other players know where to be when he does and what positions to take up? That he doesn’t just take it upon himself on a whim.
You could pick random people from the streets and put them in those studios and they would make more sense.
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He was just highlighting how shite southgate is, not picking on JS, fair enough for me.
 
ShaunMCFC said:
I see you as Bluemoons England correspondent so I’d like ask you your views on a couple of things (genuinely not taking the piss).

- do you think England dropping back after scoring is on Southgate?

- do you think Foden should be in the 10 over Bellingham?

- has Palmer left his shin pads in London?

- why is Rice not able to play the 6 on his todd?

- why does Southgate think Phillips is Ngolo Kante?

- why does Kane think he can keep dropping into midfield and give us no outball? (relating to this, why the fuck does Southgate not tell him to stay up top and stop getting in every other fuckers way)
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another time. i can barely function today.
 
Phil1 said:
Why was Shearer banging on about Stones failure to join up in midfield and push forward like he does at City? Is he really that fucking monumentally thick? Does he not realise it’s a plan that city train and work on constantly, where other players know where to be when he does and what positions to take up? That he doesn’t just take it upon himself on a whim.
You could pick random people from the streets and put them in those studios and they would make more sense.
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But it's the fact England over the past few years haven't even had the vision to develop their style of play to utilise the likes of Stones and his ability to do things like that. I know national teams don't get the same time to work on these things but it's not rocket science either, they're all premier league footballers. I'm sure with the right tactical guidance they could do a decent approximation of setting up how they do for their clubs.

5 of our 10 outfield players play for City and Arsenal, the two best teams in England by some distance and we don't even think to set a team up so the players can play in a way they excel at in very good teams.

Like I said in a thread a few days ago, if you look at the Spain team that won the World Cup, they didn't play a million miles away from how Barcelona play because they had Barcelona players and even though they didn't have Pep managing Spain, their manager understood to get them to at least approximate it to a degree. if you look at the German team that won the World Cup after that , they played like good Bundesliga teams did.

We play nothing like a good Premier league side and a way the players are used to. That's what friendlies and the camps are for, to get a proper team and style.
 
Phil1 said:
Why was Shearer banging on about Stones failure to join up in midfield and push forward like he does at City? Is he really that fucking monumentally thick? Does he not realise it’s a plan that city train and work on constantly, where other players know where to be when he does and what positions to take up? That he doesn’t just take it upon himself on a whim.
You could pick random people from the streets and put them in those studios and they would make more sense.
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He knows he can do that because rodri etc are disciplined enough to drop into an area to cover him and seeing as twent cant even drop into the areas he should be in when playing in midfield that likelihood of him being intelligent enough to cover those areas is between slim and none and stones doing that would be a recipe for disaster which would be immediately blamed on stones.
 
elbearos said:
When Phil got subbed that was it for me, I have never seen Rice do anything, can someone tell me what he does?
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Passes sideways and backwards. Rarely passes forwards. Most passes are short, giving him good completion stats.

He's much better for Arsenal. It can't be just down to him. You have to look at the coaching and team structure.

@SebastianBlue summed it up for me when he said the team is built around Bellingham, with everyone else set up as his water carrier.

@brazilians hurt followed up with the view that Bellingham will pick and choose his gang of acolytes, with Alexander Arnold at his side as his second.
 
I enjoy Stones moving into midfield as much as the next person, but I don't want him doing it off his own back in a formation where both full-backs push forward, leaving Guehi (a very good but pretty young and internationally inexperienced defender) alone as the last line of outfield defence.
 
Big Swifty said:
Well, here's my prediction as to how it will pan out (for what it's worth):

England will scrape past Slovenia, and will qualify for the knock-out rounds.

England will win the tournament, largely thanks to some other fancied teams being surprisingly knocked out - and of course a couple of Kane penalties.

And Southgate will receive a knighthood in the next New Year's Honours List.

Remember - you heard it here first.
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Lauz9888 said:
I enjoy Stones moving into midfield as much as the next person, but I don't want him doing it off his own back in a formation where both full-backs push forward, leaving Guehi (a very good but pretty young and internationally inexperienced defender) alone as the last line of outfield defence.
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Indeed, it works at City because we have the best tactician to ever live coaching us and the best DM in the world infront of him.
 
I thought Kyle saying "We're still top of the group" as some kind of achievement was a bit embarrassing.

Have you SEEN the players in the England team Kyle and the other teams in the group? We should now be qualified for the knockout phase not just top of the group.

At least be honest mate and acknowledge the players were nowhere near the standard we should have been and apologise to the thousands of fans who have travelled at great expense to what that shit!
 
Foden Saka,Kane, Bellingham, some of the best players in the world who have had very good seasons yet Southgate sets us up like we are Scotland it’s no surprise many of them are struggling IMG_3422.jpeg
 
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