The Album Review Club - Week #192 (page 1292) - 3ft High & Rising - De La Soul

Lots of words sorry

It's hard in retrospect to listen to The Jam. Lots of other bands sound like The Jam and The Jam sound like a lot of other bands. I spent a lot time trying to figure out what the songs reminded me of. Even what other The Jam songs these songs sound like.

What sets The Jam apart is the bass playing of Bruce Foxton closely followed by the lyrics of Paul Weller. Wellers delivery is a little one note and this is an area where the bands that rip of The Jam do better. However if you take away Wellers words they are an infinitely worse band and the songs generally are of a very high quality. I really enjoyed this album.

The worst song isn't even their song. David Watts isn't a very good Kinks song and The Jam don't improve it. Frustratingly though it's the song that gets stuck in your head which supports Foggys assertion that Weller can't write hooks.

All Mod Cons is a nice opener and foreshadows musically and lyrically how the rest of the album will go. It ends too soon though. To Be Someone tells the story of the prodigal son if he didn't return home and parts of it will be recycled later in The Jam's careers.

Mr Clean has a super annoying guitar riff and a bitter and jealous reverse snobbery class thing but it appears to be a popular song so maybe it's just me. I don't know if the contrast with David Watts is deliberate and juxtaposes the positivity of the 1960's with the realities of 1970's Britain. If neither of these songs existed I wouldn't mourn their loss.

English Rose sounds like an Oasis B-Side and is fine with a nice subtle key change. In The Crowd sounds like a thousand other songs but is my favourite as it derails into a psychedelic rock out which really really sounds like something else I can't put my finger on and until I remember what it is I'll just describe as ending like a Stone Roses song if funk hasn't been invented. In the olden days of LP's this would have been a great way to close Side A (I think it's an Oasis song that this ending reminds me of).

Side B starts pretty week. Billy Hunt is cockney rhyming slang for childish and immature. Foxtons bass line almost saves it but doesn't quite. It's Too Bad really really really really wants to be a Beatles song. This section reminds me of the pastiches they'd do on Horrible Histories. It's all very on the nose.

Fly sounds like if Nick Drake and The Who had tried to invent teleportation and in their experiments had got their genetics mixed up. I want to hate this song because it never really manages to be coherent but it's definitely growing on me.

The Place I Love suffers from having Paul Weller sing it. I imagine Gaz Coombes likes this song and would deliver it better. A Bomb In Wardour Street demonstrates where Weller is great and not so great in equal measure. He's trying hard though.

Down in the Tube Station at Midnight sounds like The Jam doing a cover of a Jam song. It's flipping brilliant. Foxton is destroying his bass. Plucking it so hard that it sounds like he's slapping it and then tastefully throwing in some harmonics without missing a step. That this nearly wasn't on the album is criminal and I wonder how much Going Underground was written in response to Paul Weller's hesitation to include this on the album. Maybe I'm over thinking it. In any event the bass is incredible and Weller is rushing things in his delivery which I think some of the other songs could use.

The more I write and think about this album the more I actually love it and the ending track kind of encapsulates how I've felt about this whole album. It all sounds like other songs but the other songs it sounds like are also really good.

8 out of 10 because it sounds great and but loses marks for David Watts and Billy Hunt. I've had it on repeat for the last three hours
Brilliant stuff mate.
The US reissue had The Butterfly Collector instead of Billy Hunt.
The Butterfly Collector was the B side to Strange Town.
A great time for music when there was loads of B sides as good if not better than the A side.
 
Love this album and love The Jam, their music still sounds great today over 45 years later, they've definitely stood the test of time.
Love David Watts even if it is a cover.

Proper music from a proper band, Weller knew the score before anyone else imho.
Again, interesting.
Basically because I reached a different conclusion to your first statement while agreeing with your second.

@mrbelfry put together a very comprehensive review of the album that ultimately you can’t argue with and there again you might not come to the same conclusions as he.

Music is totally subjective and how old you were on first listen of anything can have a very lasting effect on your memory and appreciation of any album.

I find myself looking on this album as very good but much more of its time than @manimanc would.
I find myself agreeing with an 8 /10 but wondering is that nostalgia. Is it better than the 7 I gave INXS. Yes and no.

This is not an album that I would put on with my wife or play in the background in company. It is very much a male album of its time and of its time I would say it’s better than INXS.

But I’m more likely to play INXS in the background than The Jam.

There’s no accounting for taste.
 
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Again, interesting.
Basically because I reached a different conclusion to your first statement while agreeing with your second.

@mrbelfry put together a very comprehensive review of the album that ultimately you can’t argue with and there again you might not come to the same conclusions as he.

Music is totally subjective and how old you were on first listen of anything can have a very lasting effect on your memory and appreciation of any album.

I find myself looking on this album as very good but much more of its time than @manimanc would.
I find myself agreeing with an 8 /10 but wondering is that nostalgia. Is it better than the 7 I gave INXS. Yes and no.

This is not an album that I would put on with my wife or play in the background in company. It is very much a male album of its time and of its time I would say it’s better than INXS.

But I’m more likely to play INXS in the background than The Jam.

There’s no accounting for taste.
I understand the male comparison.
If you watch all their concert clips from that time it is very teenage male dominated.
Same with the Clash.
 
I'm not going to argue that it's better than the original but I dont think it suffers much in comparison. I like it partly because of the novelty of Foxton on vocals. Also it's quite possible without the Jam's version most people wouldn't be familiar with the original because it was only ever a b-side for the Kinks on a single that only did business in the UK. The story of how it got written is quite funny if Ray Davies is to be believed.

Re. your last comment, clearly I wasn't being serious in suggesting that US popular music of the time was a cultural void. After all that was the year Copacabana came out ;-)
Love the pun TS because BM was Copacabana after he Wrote the Song but anybody who changes a virtual one hit wonders title from one female name to another to kick off their career to allegedly not confuse it with another song by the same name by another virtual one hit wonder leaves a lot to be desired.

I rate Debbie Boone higher than I do Barry Manilow but it is difficult to rate music that when played and sung is in tune but nothing more.
 
All Mod Cons – The Jam

This really isn’t my cup of tea. Yes, it’s a competent band doing their thing, but it bustles along mechanically and for the most part leaves me cold.

Too often, Paul Weller goes into that cockney chanting thing that ruins so much music of the time. “English Rose” is probably the pick of the bunch, a song where the attitude is dropped and instead, it’s a sung from the heart. The tail of “In The Crowd” with its psychedelic guitar is more to my taste but there’s not enough of this sound to keep me interested across the album.

Once he’d shrugged off this mediocrity, dialled down the attitude and injected some much-needed heart and soul into his music, Paul Weller would go on to much better things – his Wild Wood has all the things that are mostly missing from this album – melody, guitar solos, instrumental passages, a bit of groove and brilliantly structured songs.

There’s no doubt that The Jam have a uniform sound and style, which is probably why so many people love them, but unfortunately, I’m not one of them. 5/10
 
All Mod Cons – The Jam

This really isn’t my cup of tea. Yes, it’s a competent band doing their thing, but it bustles along mechanically and for the most part leaves me cold.

Too often, Paul Weller goes into that cockney chanting thing that ruins so much music of the time. “English Rose” is probably the pick of the bunch, a song where the attitude is dropped and instead, it’s a sung from the heart. The tail of “In The Crowd” with its psychedelic guitar is more to my taste but there’s not enough of this sound to keep me interested across the album.

Once he’d shrugged off this mediocrity, dialled down the attitude and injected some much-needed heart and soul into his music, Paul Weller would go on to much better things – his Wild Wood has all the things that are mostly missing from this album – melody, guitar solos, instrumental passages, a bit of groove and brilliantly structured songs.

There’s no doubt that The Jam have a uniform sound and style, which is probably why so many people love them, but unfortunately, I’m not one of them. 5/10
Wild Wood is a very good album.
Much more mature.
 
I''ve not heard Wildwoood bt do have Stanley Road and would agree, obviously much more mature. Was thinking when I heard English Rose that it's a pretty naive and not particularly good track, compared to the likes of You do Something to me and others. Can't balme him for having been young though...
 
Some great reviews here, for anyone interested Foxton is still touring in FTJ, saw them last Friday in Holmfirth, fantastic night with many old fat blokes having a great time. They are just coming to the end of their 45th anniversary tour for 'All Mod Cons', they will start the 45th anniversary tour of Setting Sons' in November, can't wait
 
Wild Wood is a very good album.
Much more mature.
To be fair it should be.
Paul was 15 years older when that came out.
He was a teenage song writer when All Mod Cons came out.An angry teenager at that.
The Jam came around at the right time for me.
A teenager that was writing songs that I got right into.
Wild Wood another great record that I got into.
A thirty something still following a thirty somethings writing.
His latest release 66 I'm loving as well as a 60 odd year old.
I have followed Paul Weller career from this album onwards.Over 45 years old and loved every minute of it.
Yes even the Style Council.
 
To be fair it should be.
Paul was 15 years older when that came out.
He was a teenage song writer when All Mod Cons came out.An angry teenager at that.
The Jam came around at the right time for me.
A teenager that was writing songs that I got right into.
Wild Wood another great record that I got into.
A thirty something still following a thirty somethings writing.
His latest release 66 I'm loving as well as a 60 odd year old.
I have followed Paul Weller career from this album onwards.Over 45 years old and loved every minute of it.
Yes even the Style Council.
I hear ye.
I had a soft spot for the Style Council also.
I actually appreciated his change in direction.
As you outlined above it reflects his different stages of life as you follow his musical progression.
 
Well, if this selection did one thing, it got me going back through their catalog. There are very few bands I can think of who changed their sound more distinctly over their life as a band — and not to meet the market, mind, but because the band was growing up. It’s really quite winning actually. That said, I was listening to “Saturday’s Kids” last night and found references to eight different things I couldn’t identify as a Yank because they were so English — and I’m a hopeless Anglophile. Need to go through AMC again a few times before I write but as an outsider looking in it’s somewhat charming to see you FOCs who grew up with this music wax rhapsodic about the days when “Mr. Clean” was your fist-raising anthem :).
 
Well, if this selection did one thing, it got me going back through their catalog. There are very few bands I can think of who changed their sound more distinctly over their life as a band — and not to meet the market, mind, but because the band was growing up. It’s really quite winning actually. That said, I was listening to “Saturday’s Kids” last night and found references to eight different things I couldn’t identify as a Yank because they were so English — and I’m a hopeless Anglophile. Need to go through AMC again a few times before I write but as an outsider looking in it’s somewhat charming to see you FOCs who grew up with this music wax rhapsodic about the days when “Mr. Clean” was your fist-raising anthem :).
Hey! Less of the F if you please.
 
We all surely have a group we all followed in our teenage years onwards.
Although I do not care for the later Morriissey stuff I understand where Mad Eye Screamer is coming from with his Smiths and Morrissey posts.
 

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