Denmark v England - Thu 20th June, 17:00 | Euro 2024 Group C

Match Result Prediction?

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red 2 hats said:
Rodri can play the defensive midfield position on his own, Rice can't, he needs someone to hold his hand coz he hasn't got the capability to go it alone, he's missing Kalvin Phillips ffs who incidentily is a player Pep wanted and that turned out well.
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He’s not a defensive midfielder for me. He plays next to Rodri and gets forward when he can.

Adam Wharton is a much better defensive player
 
You can see it coming after this shit show yesterday, Foden will be the scapegoat for Palmer to come in.
I still don't understand why Southgate needs 6 defending players, The back 4 and Rice and TTA, Also we sit so deep when defending and don't have an out ball, So there is no need for TTA passing.

When you watch the better teams in this Euro's they all have a setup and everybody knows the system, The 2 games England have played I don't think any League 1 teams manager would setup up like Southgate did,

When you have 4 or 5 world-class forward players the manager's job should be a piece of cake, just get the ball back quickly and play a high press, You have Walker's recovery pace at the back and Stones that is so good on the ball.

Play 4.1.4.1

Pickford

Walker
Trippier
Stones
Guehi

Rice

Saka Bellingham Foden Bowen

Kane
 
chris85mcfc said:
Tbh looking at Southgate, he probably thinks this himself, let alone the players.

He's a weasel of a bloke, who looks like his penalty miss nearly 30 years ago has completely floored him, and he carries the anguish day in and day out.

That comment about Phillips is a disgrace, on what planet does missing a fella who hasn't kicked a ball for two seasons got to do with anything?

He's made this very good bunch of players feel as though they're inferior, and that's come from him.

He's a little shithouse of a fella, and doesn't have the mental strength to manage a group of players who aren't looking for coaching, just a bit of motivation and inspiration.
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When a like isnt enough, bravo sir.
 
Also, I brought it up at the time but the Lineker interview with Kasper Schmeichel was one of the best I have listened to. Lots of talk about his time at City and Mahrez if you’re only interested in City. But then a lot of other emotional bits - about the helicopter crash at Leicester and Eriksen at the Euros.

That said, he talks about what it means to play for Denmark and I thought I’d post it here given the result:

“There is nothing, that's for me pure football because that's about your country. That's not about career furtherment or money or anything like that. That's simply about being the best in your country.

And I think it's difficult to understand or to explain to someone who's not Danish what it means. And I think every country will have something similar, but I do feel having played in different countries, I've never come across players that love being away with their country as much as we do. A lot of times what I hear are like friendly games are meaningless and it's a long time away from family and all that.

And it is, but nothing is meaningless when it comes to this squad. I've never seen anyone have to leave the squad with an injury or anything like that. Everyone wants to stay, even if you're injured, no one's trying to go back home.

Everyone's trying to cling on[…]”

From The Rest Is Football: Kasper Schmeichel: Miracles, Tragedy & Desire, May 23, 2024
 
Magicpole said:
Not random at all, my uncle was a Man City fanatic and I grew up through all the shit times for City and was delighted how things turned out. Because of that, City have been my favourite English team. I don’t know if that qualifies me, but it fucking should. As for stirring shit? What you on about? Show me an example of that.
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A small add on. The only reason I came on this forum was before we played you in the CL. I have never done that with any team, it was solely because it was City and my uncles influence.

Came on, got Clarkied to fuck by a shower of cheeky funny cunts. Brutal it was. I remember thinking, these are my kind of people, and here we are.
 
kippaxwarrior said:
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You got your image moving. What is this sorcery?
 
I'm With Stupid said:
Gary Lineker's analysis is great here.



And some of what they're saying is pretty worrying, because no amount of changing players is going to improve things if the person in charge can't get the tactics right.
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Gary is great on the pod when he has time to talk and doesn't have to sensor himself like on tv
 
I'm With Stupid said:
Gary Lineker's analysis is great here.



And some of what they're saying is pretty worrying, because no amount of changing players is going to improve things if the person in charge can't get the tactics right.
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Lineker is great there but Micah continues his recent spree of spouting absolute nonsense.
 
Saddleworth2 said:
It's true of course but the solution is obvious. After all, Pep did it with Kun. Exactly the same problem. Kun got it, changed the way he played and was a more rounded player for it.
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Going off topic here but it reminds me of a little snippet of an interview with Lewandowski, I saw a while ago.

He said when he rocked up in Munich, Guardiola had him in and said something along the lines of…. You know more about scoring goals and playing in the opposition penalty area than I ever will. But if you’re interested in learning I think I can make you into a better footballer? And Lewandowski said… absolutely I’m interested. And he then said he learned more in the next two years than he had in the previous 10 years of being a pro.

Just as an aside, remember his manager was Jurgen Klopp for about four of those years.
 
Saddleworth2 said:
Back 4 adopt a high line. Compress in the attacking half. Kane needs to lead the press or be dropped.
Play high and play quicker and this team could still win the competition.
Bit difficult getting them to do that mid tournament when he has had years and years to sort it out.
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At City we do it. With any other team, it might be very dangerous. We can do it because we've got the best coach in the world, who never stops thinking about the game, who is proactive and always ready to tweak and make adjustments which aren't always that visible to the hoi-polloi that we are, but which, time and again, make the crucial difference. How many times last season did we see the team turn in a not particularly convincing performance in the first half, only for them to come out a changed team in the second? That's Pep. That's all on him. It happens too often for it to be coincidence.

Playing out from the back, playing a high line, takes an incredible level of technical proficiency, allied to an iron discipline. Every single player at City has got that. If even one player gets it wrong — and not by much, by the way — it's a clear scoring chance, maybe a goal, for the opposition.

Not sure about it with these players, and this keeper. Ed's got playing back-up to our high line down to a fine art. Sure we get caught by the counter sucker punch from time to time (it's virtually the only way other teams can beat us — three times only last season) but Ed's got much better at timing it than he used to. So has Stefan.
Could Pickford? Ever? Even with coaching? England are a conglomerate of players who have not been welded into a team. They will never have the fearsome efficiency as a unit that City have — six titles in the last seven years tells us that — and it would be unreasonable to expect as much from players who only see each other every two or three months. Is Southgate the man to do that?
I'm asking questions rather than giving answers. As for Kane, I totally agree that he's got to adjust his game. See, for a very long time, Kane played with a player, Son, who went ahead and timed his runs to perfection while Kane dropped deep. That pairing almost single handedly kept Tottenham at top four/top six level. Consciously, of course, Kane knows very well that he's not playing in that configuration. But I can't help wondering whether, unconsciously, old habits die hard.
 
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