The Album Review Club - Week #192 (page 1292) - 3ft High & Rising - De La Soul

We should change nothing. The scoring forces you to take a stand!

I mean it’s not too hard to get a good score — just pick a very popular record that everyone knows and most like. I am indifferent to whether someone does that or picks something new and/or obscure I don’t know.

They’re both fun.
I don’t mind the scoring and I don’t think it matters whether you are in keeping with the majority opinion or not. As long as your own scoring is consistent to your own personal taste.

My problem with having been out of here for a while and coming back for the last two albums, is having started with a 7 it doesn’t leave me much room for manoeuvre towards excellence in the future.
I may have started too high, depending on what comes after.
 
OT (sorry I know there was a thread about this, but so what), I saw this today:



Personally I would say Eddie VH is the greatest ever, and it's nice to see some love for Sister Rosetta Tharpe, and this list is missing Bob Mould, and Pete Townshend should be higher up . . . but my most visceral reaction was HOW THE FUCKING FUCK DOES THE EDGE MAKE THIS LIST????
 
I don’t mind the scoring and I don’t think it matters whether you are in keeping with the majority opinion or not. As long as your own scoring is consistent to your own personal taste.

My problem with having been out of here for a while and coming back for the last two albums, is having started with a 7 it doesn’t leave me much room for manoeuvre towards excellence in the future.
I may have started too high, depending on what comes after.
For me 7 is a record I would play again. 6 has some songs I'd play again. 8 is a record I would own and like a lot, nearly every song. 9s and 10s are great and going to be on my slowly-growing list of favo(u)rite records ever. 5s are flawed, 4s I dislike, below that I actively hate, with 3.14159265359 etc. specifically reserved for OK Computer. My scores also have a component of grade in- or de-flation if I sense the group here is missing something :).
 
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OT (sorry I know there was a thread about this, but so what), I saw this today:



Personally I would say Eddie VH is the greatest ever, and it's nice to see some love for Sister Rosetta Tharpe, and this list is missing Bob Mould, and Pete Townshend should be higher up . . . but my most visceral reaction was HOW THE FUCKING FUCK DOES THE EDGE MAKE THIS LIST????

To be fair to the Edge I know a bunch of players who own a delay pedal and try and copy him. He's pretty influential
 
To be fair to the Edge I know a bunch of players who own a delay pedal and try and copy him. He's pretty influential
I think the fact that he's included -- but very low -- has everything to do with the fact that U2 is immensely popular, but that the purveyors of this list know that he's actually not very talented, so they snuck him in near the bottom because they had to find a place for him SOMEhow. Back that old "influence vs. talent" argument I guess. Sonics are no substitute for dexterity.

I'm fine with U2 -- always have been -- but Larry Mullen is the only talented musician at his instrument compared to his other peers who play it IMO. Adam Clayton still looks at the frets FFS.
 
OT (sorry I know there was a thread about this, but so what), I saw this today:



Personally I would say Eddie VH is the greatest ever, and it's nice to see some love for Sister Rosetta Tharpe, and this list is missing Bob Mould, and Pete Townshend should be higher up . . . but my most visceral reaction was HOW THE FUCKING FUCK DOES THE EDGE MAKE THIS LIST????

Pffft!!!
I spit on Rolling Stone.
The best guitarist of all time not even mentioned.
 
I think the fact that he's included -- but very low -- has everything to do with the fact that U2 is immensely popular, but that the purveyors of this list know that he's actually not very talented, so they snuck him in near the bottom because they had to find a place for him SOMEhow. Back that old "influence vs. talent" argument I guess. Sonics are no substitute for dexterity.

I'm fine with U2 -- always have been -- but Larry Mullen is the only talented musician at his instrument compared to his other peers who play it IMO. Adam Clayton still looks at the frets FFS.
The Hedge? A guitarist?
I agree about Larry.
Learned how to play the drums properly in The Artane Boys Band.

Seriously though. That R/S list is ridiculous for these very reasons.
I could name half a dozen better Irish guitarists alone, than The Hedge.
 
OT (sorry I know there was a thread about this, but so what), I saw this today:



Personally I would say Eddie VH is the greatest ever, and it's nice to see some love for Sister Rosetta Tharpe, and this list is missing Bob Mould, and Pete Townshend should be higher up . . . but my most visceral reaction was HOW THE FUCKING FUCK DOES THE EDGE MAKE THIS LIST????

Not one included from further East than Dover so no, I don't agree with this list.
 
It's a bugger updating the ever-lengthening table every week.
I agree if there's any way to share the spreadsheet pain of getting the scores right, that's always an option. Have a second pair of eyeballs on it for QC.

Joking aside, what are peoples feelings on this? Should we drop the scoring after this round?
As one of the newer ones to this, I'll add that I'm still up for keeping it too. I don't take offense on scores as that's all personal, and I in general try to stick to Foggy's score outline give or take. But this week, if I get a surprise album that I like that I've never heard, I'll tend to score that higher than a similarly enjoyed album (hmm, maybe INXS LLTs?) that I have heard before and may enjoy just as much on a tracks perspective, but I didn't have before.

And sure, I agree with @Out on blue 6 that there are likely obvious albums out there that would potentially score higher, but that's not why I'm here or hoping to share with others on an album that has affected me in a certain way. If it doesn't score well, then so be it. But if it reaches one person and they get to appreciate it, then that's what matters to me.

I'm a better enjoyer of (various) music having now heard the Streets, Aphex Twin, a full Waterboys album, The Budos Band, The Midnight, and Domenique Dumont. The list goes on. I wasn't around for J.J. Cale's selection, but I gave that a spin knowing that people I (mostly ;-) trust here gave it the scores it received. That was well worth it. I enjoyed that and The Streets for both ends of the table for different reasons.

Although I don't get hung up on the scores, I like to go on record on each one, and the experience of hearing and discussing other selections I wouldn't have otherwise.
 
I agree if there's any way to share the spreadsheet pain of getting the scores right, that's always an option. Have a second pair of eyeballs on it for QC.
No, it was only a throwaway line, it's pretty easy to do. Not like plugging all those playlist guesses in!

The scores will stay as the vast majority are on favour.

Anyway, speaking of updates ......
 
The Hedge? A guitarist?
I agree about Larry.
Learned how to play the drums properly in The Artane Boys Band.

Seriously though. That R/S list is ridiculous for these very reasons.
I could name half a dozen better Irish guitarists alone, than The Hedge.
LOL The Hedge.

Reminds me of my wife’s college friend who used to refer to The Police’s bass player/singer/pretty boy egomaniac as “Schting.”
 
All Mod Cons by The Jam pulled in 16 voters for an average of 7.06. That's the 24th album to hit the magical 7 mark, and it gives @bennyboy his 3rd top 20 album. It seems like plenty of people enjoyed visiting their youth on this one and once more, there was plenty of good discussion.

Next up is @BlueHammer85. Whenever you're ready, guvnor (Sorry, I've gone all Paul Weller).
 
As someone that has stated both sides of my mixed views on the scoring, I feel it should stay. For one I think removing that sense of obligation to score something might remove some of the need to comment as well. I.e we see it often we all have weeks like that, where we struggle to find time, and rush to score and justify that. If you don’t need to, chances are the commentary might drop too. Possibly.

Plus, we have been going so long, could feel odd.
 
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