President Trump

Haaland94 said:
Excellent point. Trump lives in the head of so many rent-free. What bad has actually happened under his presidency? Don't recall any wars, or major economic issues for the average Joe's.

It seems to me that for some, bad actions are not bad as long as there is some perceived sanctimonious, higher-ground argument or motive at play. It would explain why so many are disappointed that this attempt was unsuccessful or why they support violence as long as it's in line with their narrative. Trump says something stupid? He is a Nazi. Someone I agree with says something stupid? It's apples and oranges, it can't be compared, out of context. Trump is totally never taken out of context. Do not watch Fox News/CNN. It's blurring the reality and it's poison. The media are dividing us and turning against one another.

One day, something really evil and wrong could be perceived as normal, and what if it's perceived as okay to use whatever means necessary. History tends to repeat itself, sadly. That's a very dangerous precedent.
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Didn’t he tell people to drink bleach during Covid! If he gets in and withdraws support for Ukraine and cozy’s upto Putin of course it affects us, if he allows China to invade Taiwan it will lead to China pushing themselves further into they can do what they want with no repercussions. Trump is a narcissist same as Boris was, you only have yo look at how he’s dealt with business in his career to see that, he gets in his above the law as well now, that’s how fucked up that country is, when he’s a convicted felon and can still run for president!
 
Haaland94 said:
Excellent point. Trump lives in the head of so many rent-free. What bad has actually happened under his presidency? Don't recall any wars, or major economic issues for the average Joe's.

It seems to me that for some, bad actions are not bad as long as there is some perceived sanctimonious, higher-ground argument or motive at play. It would explain why so many are disappointed that this attempt was unsuccessful or why they support violence as long as it's in line with their narrative. Trump says something stupid? He is a Nazi. Someone I agree with says something stupid? It's apples and oranges, it can't be compared, out of context. Trump is totally never taken out of context. Do not watch Fox News/CNN. It's blurring the reality and it's poison. The media are dividing us and turning against one another.

One day, something really evil and wrong could be perceived as normal, and what if it's perceived as okay to use whatever means necessary. History tends to repeat itself, sadly. That's a very dangerous precedent.
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Research finds that inadequate US pandemic response cost more American lives than World War I | University of Oxford

New analysis from researchers at the University of Oxford finds that from March to July this year, Europe had a 28% lower rate of excess deaths than the US - contrary to claims by President Donald Trump that Europe experienced greater excess mortality than the US.
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Haaland94 said:
Excellent point. Trump lives in the head of so many rent-free. What bad has actually happened under his presidency? Don't recall any wars, or major economic issues for the average Joe's.

It seems to me that for some, bad actions are not bad as long as there is some perceived sanctimonious, higher-ground argument or motive at play. It would explain why so many are disappointed that this attempt was unsuccessful or why they support violence as long as it's in line with their narrative. Trump says something stupid? He is a Nazi. Someone I agree with says something stupid? It's apples and oranges, it can't be compared, out of context. Trump is totally never taken out of context. Do not watch Fox News/CNN. It's blurring the reality and it's poison. The media are dividing us and turning against one another.

One day, something really evil and wrong will be perceived as normal, and it will be perceived as okay to use whatever means necessary, That's a very dangerous precedent.
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Well, bar him being a crook, a rapist, an instigator of a riot at City Hall and the potential yet to be on some kind of list of his paedo pal.

I'd say that would be enough to not like the guy for now.

I guess we could mention the Russian collusion the first time around and then all the other political skullduggery but I'd guess they are all up to their necks in that tbh.

A guy who couldn't give a shit about the planet and a denier of climate change, which is dangerous for one of the world's most polluting countries.

He is just a horrible guy.

A billionaire conning the hillbillies into thinking he is on their side, it has been a fantastic trick and it worked first time around and will again.

I would hate to be an American and have to choose between Trump or Biden but luckily for them they won't as they are so entrenched in their parties that they couldn't give a shit who fronts them and will vote for who they would usually and as previously mentioned that helped Trump when the great unwashed voted in greater numbers than previous elections.

USA USA USA


ps
Boris pulled the same trick and got in as well.
 
The blue phantom said:
I'm fairly sure Melania will be gutted tbh.
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Here’s her response:

“America, the fabric of our gentle nation is tattered, but our courage and common sense must ascend and bring us back together as one.

When I watched that violent bullet strike my husband, Donald, I realized my life, and Barron’s life, were on the brink of devastating change. I am grateful to the brave secret service agents and law enforcement officials who risked their own lives to protect my husband.

To the families of the innocent victims who are now suffering from this heinous act, I humbly offer my sincerest sympathy…

A monster who recognized my husband as an inhuman political machine attempted to ring out Donald’s passion – his laughter, ingenuity, love of music, and inspiration. The core facets of my husband’s life – his human side – were buried below the political machine…

We are all humans, and fundamentally, instinctively, we want to help one another. American politics are only one vehicle that can uplift our communities. Love, compassion, kindness and empathy are necessities.

And let us remember that when the time comes to look beyond the left and the right, beyond the red and the blue, we all come from families with the passion to fight for a better life together, while we are here, in this earthly realm.”
 
Vester said:
I'm just curious, what do you actually think will happen after Trumps re-election that will have such a devastating effect on the world, comparable to when Hitler rised to power in Germany and the nazis started WWII and killed millions of jews? What exactly happened during his last presidency that makes you think this is the likely outcome?
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- The continued dissolution, if not outright destruction, of what is left of American democratic institutions, as is the stated goal of the MAGA movement, and which Trump began in earnest in his first term

- The arrest or worse of perceived political enemies, opposition, and dissenters, including (ironically) calling for an carrying out political violence against opposition groups and protests, as he did during his first term and as consistently incited throughout his campaigns

- The stripping away of civil liberties for anyone deemed outside of the MAGA ideal, particularly removing most rights of women, immigrants (horrifically, as he did in his first term, I might add), and minority groups, primarily through the construction of a theocratic fascist state, which Trump and his cronies also set the foundation for in his first team and which they continue to allude to fulfilling in a second term

- Aligning the US with warmongering, murderous dictators like Putin and Kim, and strengthening ties to far-right, corrupt, murderous leaders likes Netanyahu and MBS, whilst weakening or even outright severing diplomatic and military support of current American allies, including the EU and Ukraine, and attempting to dissolve NATO, allowing Putin, Netanyahu, and others to continue their scorched earth wars of illegal annexation and genocide, which he began in his first term

- Starting an outright trade war (or conventional) war with China through horrifically bad economic and diplomatic action, which he again began in his first term

- Destroying what is left of the social welfare system in the US, accelerating income inequality, intensifying poverty, and strengthening the corporate and special interest grip on politics in america

- Repealing most voting laws protecting citizens from disenfranchisement, political retribution, and actual persecution for their political beliefs

- Cementing himself as the “King of America” based on his selected Supreme Court’s ruling on Presidential Immunity which is seemingly going to protect him from any accountability for his actions in the past or future

- Very likely refusing to leave after his second term is over (or installing one of his sons as president to create a political dynasty), ending any semblance of a democratic process for the election of government

- Further normalising political corruption not seen since the days of Nixon and enriching his family, businesses, and political allies using the apparatus of government

- Potentially intentionally instigating a low grade civil war in America

And those are just things he or his cronies have done or have said he or his cronies will do. There are many other things that could happen based on the reactions of other leaders and nations to his destructive policies and actions.

Hitler’s run to his truly horrific acts started in a similar fashion (minus first being elected, admittedly), including a failed insurrection that wasn’t dealt with properly and only lead to him becoming an even more powerful figure that was eventually elected leader before he and his cronies dismantled the democratic system to ensure he would stay in absolute power.
 
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Haaland94 said:
Excellent point. Trump lives in the head of so many rent-free. What bad has actually happened under his presidency? Don't recall any wars, or major economic issues for the average Joe's.

It seems to me that for some, bad actions are not bad as long as there is some perceived sanctimonious, higher-ground argument or motive at play. It would explain why so many are disappointed that this attempt was unsuccessful or why they support violence as long as it's in line with their narrative. Trump says something stupid? He is a Nazi. Someone I agree with says something stupid? It's apples and oranges, it can't be compared, out of context. Trump is totally never taken out of context. Do not watch Fox News/CNN. It's blurring the reality and it's poison. The media are dividing us and turning against one another.

One day, something really evil and wrong could be perceived as normal, and what if it's perceived as okay to use whatever means necessary. History tends to repeat itself, sadly. That's a very dangerous precedent.
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An extra few hundred thousand Americans died in the pandemic thanks to his mismanagement of it.
He surrendered Afghanistan to the Taliban and put in place an irrevocable timetable for withdrawal to ensure his successor got the blame.
He abandoned the Kurds to the Russian backed Syrian government and the Turks.
Economically he hugely increased the national debt with his tax giveaways to billionaires.
He appointed 3 Supreme Court judges to ensure that if he gets in again, he can’t be held accountable for any crimes.
Other than that, apart from the daily abuse he handed out to people and groups he didn’t like he did fine.

Oh yes, I forgot to mention him cosying up to various dictators and threatening his allies. But apart from that…..
 
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Jam Tomorrow said:
I guess you missed the insurrection when he tried to overturn the result of the 2020 election when six people died as a direct result? Or when he asked his MAGA maniacs to bump off his opponents.
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You think this is even remotely comparable to what Hitler did?
 
Law enforcement officials have reportedly informed two sources that Trump was not hit by a bullet but by glass shards or fragments instead from a teleprompter that broke due to the gunfire
 
PPT said:
Here’s her response:

“America, the fabric of our gentle nation is tattered, but our courage and common sense must ascend and bring us back together as one.

When I watched that violent bullet strike my husband, Donald, I realized my life, and Barron’s life, were on the brink of devastating change. I am grateful to the brave secret service agents and law enforcement officials who risked their own lives to protect my husband.

To the families of the innocent victims who are now suffering from this heinous act, I humbly offer my sincerest sympathy…

A monster who recognized my husband as an inhuman political machine attempted to ring out Donald’s passion – his laughter, ingenuity, love of music, and inspiration. The core facets of my husband’s life – his human side – were buried below the political machine…

We are all humans, and fundamentally, instinctively, we want to help one another. American politics are only one vehicle that can uplift our communities. Love, compassion, kindness and empathy are necessities.

And let us remember that when the time comes to look beyond the left and the right, beyond the red and the blue, we all come from families with the passion to fight for a better life together, while we are here, in this earthly realm.”
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Yes, I’m sure she wrote those words herself.
 
Marklr said:
Yep. Normal politicians aren't murderers or sex offenders. Once they cross that line...
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I'll just revisit what I said hours ago.

Tugay One Cup said:
Us: "he's a nonce."

You: "that's just a political disagreement."
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Why is it so hard for some people to accept that people don't despise the guy simply for the political stance he promotes?

He is, amongst a whole fucking tapestry of disgusting shit, a sexual abuser of the worst kind.

Fuck him, fuck anyone who supports him and fuck anyone banging on about "both sides" and pretending that the life of Donald Trump is as precious as that of all the renowned non-rapists who work in the same industry.
 
SebastianBlue said:
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Another thing that doesnt seem to get highlighted is that Jan 6th wasnt just the crowd storming the capital, Trump and his team tried to get fake electors to send results stating he won certain states, that he actually lost, overruling the democratic votes. Literally tried to overthrow the government with fake results.

Its incredible he and all involved arnt already locked up for it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_fake_electors_plot
 
Mr Morris said:
Law enforcement officials have reportedly informed two sources that Trump was not hit by a bullet but by glass shards or fragments instead from a teleprompter that broke due to the gunfire
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If confirmed that makes much more sense than a bullet grazing his ear.

Still could have done quite a lot of damage, mind, and this is still a massive security failure all-around, including the agents behaviour after they got him to the ground.

That video of the aftermath is a case study of what not to do in a threat situation.
 
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