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SebastianBlue said:
Much has been written about not only Trump’s similarity to Jones, but about the way he naturally speaks and interacts with others being exactly like a cult leader.

In fact, a bonafide Jonestown survivor, who was shot five times and left for dead (she was an aid to Rep. Leo Ryan, who was murdered there in that same shooting, before Jones ordered his entire congregation to commit suicide), and later became a congresswoman, has said in no uncertain terms that Trump and Jones should be rightly compared.

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Congresswoman Shot At Jonestown Compares Donald Trump To Cult Leader Jim Jones

"The only difference between Jim Jones and Donald Trump is the fact that we now have social media. So all these people can find themselves in ways that they couldn’t find themselves before.”
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People who were in Jonestown have said similar things. This from Yulunda Williams who fled from the cult a year before the massacre:

“I sometimes listen to [Trump] - he sounds so much [like him] and the rhetoric is so similar to that of Jim Jones," Ms Williams said. "But it is absolutely eerie for me.”

When I made that post I hadn’t really thought to look up whether others had made a similar connection. In a way it’s not necessarily surprising as Trump has probably been compared to every mendacious leader in human history. But there was something about the mannerisms and way of speaking that I found really uncanny.
 
I think I’d previously viewed Kamala Harris as your typical milquetoast centre right uninspiring but reasonably competent political bod. Trying to be progressive but not really strong enough to make reform happen and therefore she just ended up looking like a cog in the machine for institutions which have a long history of oppressing lower socioeconomic demographics.

But I have to say, the more I hear from her… she is kinda growing on me. I find it hard to place her but I’m starting to come round to thinking that maybe her judicial baggage makes her look less progressive than she actually is in reality. I’m starting to suspect she might have a more radical streak in her.

Also I’ve heard she is “brat”. Whatever that means.
 
The blue phantom said:
Apparently the longest standing ovation in Congress ever. Absolutely fuckin disgusting watching these Congress folk and Senators fawning over this Mass Murdering ****. Bastards!
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I certainly hope that ovation was almost entirely from the MAGA side of the aisle.
 
SebastianBlue said:
I certainly hope that ovation was almost entirely from the MAGA side of the aisle.
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It was awful and revolting to watch. If Kamalla Harris would of been there and joined in Trump wins by a distance. She has to get the young voters and Progressives back on board and she can pull this off, I'm in no doubt she can win even by opposing Israel's demands for American taxpayer weopens.
 
The blue phantom said:
It was awful and revolting to watch. If Kamalla Harris would have been there and joined in Trump wins by a distance. She has to get the young voters and Progressives back on board and she can pull this off, I'm in no doubt she can win even by opposing Israel's demands for American taxpayer weopens.
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It is infuriating that a far-right authoritarian, who has mounting and considerable charges of corruption and calls in his own country to resign, that many (including myself) would argue is currently committing genocide, and is certainly repeatedly violating international law (as adjudicated by several international bodies of justices)—with not only no remorse but with defiant zeal—is being allowed an audience with the United States Congress to an attempt to inspire them to stronger support for his regime’s acts.

Detestable.
 
One of the most important rules for an authoritarian leader to maintain power is to paint all dissent as evil and a threat to national unity and security.

One of the best ways to do that is to cast anyone protesting as enemies of the common “good” citizens and agents of outside entities merely looking to agitate and destabilise.

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