Southport | 9 year old girl confirmed as third victim

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Does appear to have a fair influence on the last say, 30 years of incidents globally though.

That's religion plus politics. 30-50 years ago we used to have far left terrorists running amok causing chaos. Weather Underground, Red Army Faction, Carlos the Jackal.

Most of them weren't devoutly religious.

Anders Brevik worshipping Odin wasn't the cause of his fascist megalomania.
 
The time has come for stiff sentances,no more kowtowing to the do gooders.
Convicted of child sex offences = life.
Being caught in possesion of a knife = life.
Forget the holiday camps are overcrowded put em 10 to a cell no tv playstations etc.
We have to make people think that going to jail is hell on earth.

Honestly you think someone who carries out an act like that is arsed about the prison sentence or how tough it is? russia has horrific prisons in Siberia it doesn't stop fuck all.
 
We'll have to agree to disagree because they did nothing of the sort.... They said it's not been treated as terrorism when they couldn't possibly know for certain... That's my point, if they're not sure then why say anything about the motivation?

So it's a guess on their part... Far easier to say nothing

You tell me, why did they feel the need to guess like they did in the case of the Lt Col that was attacked?
They said ‘at this point’ -it’s not difficult to grasp.

Had he been arrested under TACT it changes everything about his detention-even to where he can be detained.

That may all change. The law isn’t there to appease an understandably angry and concerned public.
 
Strange parallels with this to the fatal school shootings in the USA by Brenda Spencer in 1979, which gave the inspiration for the Boomtown Rats song "I Don't Like Mondays". By a twist of bizarre coincidence, that song was at No.1 in the UK on this very day in 1979.
 
They said ‘at this point’ -it’s not difficult to grasp.

Had he been arrested under TACT it changes everything about his detention-even to where he can be detained.

That may all change. The law isn’t there to appease an understandably angry and concerned public.
when they could have said nothing....... -it's not difficult to grasp @bert38

I'm out....
 
No. Their memo was kidnapp, abuse and kill. This is a different type of crime. Just to kill, cause as much carnage as possible. No thought. Just destruction
Not sure that the modus operandi has much to do with it. Kids are dead, tragic & vicious acts.
 
Oh giveover

For starters the suspect is 17-the police cannot give his details because 1) they wouldn’t 2) he’s a juvenile and they can’t by law.
So im wrong then? We will wait and see you know it but like to spout off to make yourself look eh trendy and big..
 
when they could have said nothing....... -it's not difficult to grasp @bert38

I'm out....
So they can’t win?

They gave facts. Facts known at this time.

It was brief and to the point.

There are a lot of other things the police need to be focusing on right now as I’m sure you understand.
 
It got to be a terror attack, Why else did he do it, Was a planned attack and did his homework on dates and addresses, Wake up people the UK is a mess and major target attacks are happening, Leeds Southport Manchester

I’ve no idea mate. As have you.

Maybe he don’t like Mondays?
 
In the 1990s gang crime involved more guns, especially in Manchester, But Knife crime is out of control and kids are carrying knives all the time even in schools, My grandson's school is all about postcodes gangs and where you live and they are even told not to mix in schools,

Look until the Government starts to say enough and sort this mess out more stabbings and death will happen
But we stopped stop and search...hmmm
 
Because they told you facts.

A juvenile has been arrested on susp of murder and attempt murder.

They aren’t treating it as terrorism at this point.

Detectives (Homicide) are working with Counter Terrorism officers.

That’s how it works. They aren’t giving conjecture or guessing-those are the facts. The rest is nobody’s business until it is.
Well said. It's pretty grim to see so many people on social media speculating about the attacker's ethnicity/religion/motives in order to push their own agendas, just hours after children have been brutally murdered. The facts will come out in time, until then spreading hearsay is not really helpful or respectful to the victims.
 
It got to be a terror attack, Why else did he do it, Was a planned attack and did his homework on dates and addresses, Wake up people the UK is a mess and major target attacks are happening, Leeds Southport Manchester
Stop shit stirring and saying your opinion as fact.

We don't know if it's terror related.

We don't know if the offender is an immigrant, legal or illegal.

All we know is 2 children have lost their lives and 6 more are in critical condition
 
Have you dealt with terroists in custody?

I have.

I’m not big and certainly not trendy but I do have some knowledge.
Common sense has always top trumped so called knowledge on the subject. Captain of the titanic was a very knowledgable bloke eh..
 
If anyone’s spent any time in Southport, they’ll know it’s a dump of a town. Yes, a lot of migrants put up in the hotel on the high street, but equally, a lot of local homeless with serious drug and mental health problems.

The lack of public funding to work with those who suffer mentally, and instead roam the high street, is a huge issue.

Pointless talking about prison sentences here. Trust me, I’m someone who would bring back public hanging. I suspect this is a case which wouldn’t have happened with serious help available to those suffering with serious mental health problems.
 
Well said. It's pretty grim to see so many people on social media speculating about the attackers ethnicity/religion/motives in order to push their own agendas, just hours after children have been brutally murdered. The facts will come out in time, until then spreading hearsay is not really helpful or respectful to the victims.
I get people are angry-it’s beyond awful. I cannot imagine the scene but people wanting a head on a spike aren’t going to get it.

Sorry for repeatedly trying to explain procedure…
 
Stop shit stirring and saying your opinion as fact.

We don't know if it's terror related.

We don't know if the offender is an immigrant, legal or illegal.

All we know is 2 children have lost their lives and 6 more are in critical condition
We also know whoever did this is a complete and utter **** - and who deliberately set out to kill and targeted young and innocent little children incapable of protecting themselves.
 
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