North Stand Construction Discussion

Citizen of Legoland said:
The only owners who could afford this sort of investment are overseas BUT most don’t have the political nouse or will to get it done with UK planning rules. Scruffy Jim is there to get that stage done and dusted using his UK contacts but the plan will be to sell up with planning in place, just ask Dion Dublin it’s a big selling point ;).

The Glazers haven’t got the money and SJ is getting on a bit, he’ll be 75 at least by the time it’s built.
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Dion…..Up the stairs leads to the roof which leaks unfortunately
 
nmc said:
5 per cent minimum interest on circa £3bn debt (in total) would be a challenge even for the Rags balance sheet. Personally, I still think the Rags have other debts buried offshore - the old PIK a notes that suddenly disappeared were not likely to have been paid up by the Glazers and are probably a restructuring debt in the Cayman Islands. Investors (Scruffy Jim aside) didn’t find them an attractive proposition when they hawked themselves around the markets recently, loading them with more debt won’t change that.
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They without question have huge debts hidden in the Cayman Island accounts.
 
jrb said:
Going slightly off topic whilst we’re touching on Scruffy Jim, the billionaire tax dodger, I can see this proposed new 90,000 - 100,000 United stadium having a retractable roof, like the Bernabéu, and a single tiered new Stretford End similar to Dortmund's Yellow Wall. Unfortunately it’s a frightening thought. I hope I’m wrong.
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Competition used to worry me but not anymore, with our owners and their ambition. Competition will drive us on further. The travel infrastructure needs to come next in my humble opinion.
 
julio jordio said:
Competition used to worry me but not anymore, with our owners and their ambition. Competition will drive us on further. The travel infrastructure needs to come next in my humble opinion.
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It will be interesting to see if the Collar site proposal will be leisure and commercial led generating further large revenues for the club, or housing, innovation, tech, jobs, office, etc led.
 
I would say this wouldn’t I.

I honestly think the Etihad stadium internally is one of the best looking stadiums in the PL and English football.

With the addition of the new 8000 capacity North stand, Level 2 tier, it will look even better.

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Pictures showing the roof sections currently removed from inside the Etihad.

Megan Davis - Linkedin

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As a comparison, the 3 tiered, South stand, looking from the corner of the North stand and the Colin Bell stand.(as you all know)

Euan’s Guide.

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Goatmeal said:
I just can’t see the glazers agreeing to a £2b investment with no immediate return.
It will increase the value of the club but not by anywhere near £2b
It goes against everything the glazers have done so far.
I think it’s a jam tomorrow feel good factor for the rag fans to boost season ticket sales.
Unless scruffy Jim gets funding then this project will be pie in the sky
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Diversity,7 day usage/occupation,sustainable growing revenues,world leading online/media representation and continued on field success is what builds enterprise value.

City's strategy and performance is now meeting all these criteria from cash flow not debt.

Phenomenal achievement !!
 
Click on the link for the other 6 pages of the interview.

In our 6th episode, together with Javier Albasanz we had the opportunity to talk with Oliver Hamer, Matchday and Events Producer at Manchester City Football Club.

During this interview, we had the opportunity to know what’s going on behind the four-time champion in a row of the Premier League during the match days and beyond to engage the fans.

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jrb said:
Click on the link for the other 6 pages of the interview.

In our 6th episode, together with Javier Albasanz we had the opportunity to talk with Oliver Hamer, Matchday and Events Producer at Manchester City Football Club.

During this interview, we had the opportunity to know what’s going on behind the four-time champion in a row of the Premier League during the match days and beyond to engage the fans.

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Absolutely no mention of the atmosphere in the piece and also plugging it on a business corporate platform LinkedIn before any meaningful consultation with fans. Blue wall no chance
 
I wasn’t going to prompt anyone, but you’ve spotted it straightaway. We know where the new North stand home end is heading. Disappointing, isn’t it. But I’m not surprised.
 
jrb said:
I wasn’t going to prompt anyone, but you’ve spotted it straightaway. We know where the new North stand home end is heading. Disappointing, isn’t it. But I’m not surprised.
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This article changes nothing… the club is talking in general terms here about the fabulous facilities it is investing in FOR FANS! There are no specifics, largely because (I’d assume) many of those decisions have not been taken yet.
 
nmc said:
This article changes nothing… the club is talking in general terms here about the fabulous facilities it is investing in FOR FANS! There are no specifics, largely because (I’d assume) many of those decisions have not been taken yet.
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You have a point.

Including creating a genuine home end, and a better match day atmosphere, amongst those other new North stand attributes listed, doesn’t have the same selling point, so there’s no need to mention them.

As for new North stand decisions taken by the club, nobody knows, bar the fan reps.

So there’s still hope, isn’t there?
 
jrb said:
You have a point.

Including creating a genuine home end, and a better match day atmosphere, amongst those other new North stand attributes listed, doesn’t have the same selling point, so there’s no need to mention them.

As for new North stand decisions taken by the club, nobody knows, bar the fan reps.

So there’s still hope, isn’t there?
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There is hope… if the club was only focused on the commercials why go to the trouble and expense of building a two tier stand… it would have been easier and cheaper to replicate the South Stand with the ‘claw’ on the back.
 
nmc said:
There is hope… if the club was only focused on the commercials why go to the trouble and expense of building a two tier stand… it would have been easier and cheaper to replicate the South Stand with the ‘claw’ on the back.
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That would have only added an additional 6000 capacity increase replicating the South stand.(3rd tier) The club always wanted a 61,000-62,000 capacity for the additional match day revenue and to bid for a future UEFA club cup final.
 
jrb said:
I wasn’t going to prompt anyone, but you’ve spotted it straightaway. We know where the new North stand home end is heading. Disappointing, isn’t it. But I’m not surprised.
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As 63 Yr old and always dreamed of an "own end that's bouncing " it's seems it ain't going to happen judging by the comments on here....please make an old man happy !!
 
Coatigan said:
Then don't judge it by the comments on here!
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That was a much more polite than I was going to write.

Christ on a bike. It's a short chat with someone called Oliver Hamer who does "research and insights analysis" for (by the looks of it) a lot of different companies and corporations. It's on LinkedIn because that's it's target audience and isn't even a good translation as there's typos everywhere.

And the usual whingers are taking it as a statement of fact from Khaldoon himself just so they can have a moan and make assertions that that's it, the Club have decided. I seriously worry about the mental health of some on here.
 
The obvious fundamental flaw in the new home end bit is that the posh seats will invariably be bought by business / ticket agencies which will lead to a splattering of away fans right by or mixed in the new home end

Nobody at the club will acknowledge this
 
spinney said:
The obvious fundamental flaw in the new home end bit is that the posh seats will invariably be bought by business / ticket agencies which will lead to a splattering of away fans right by or mixed in the new home end

Nobody at the club will acknowledge this
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Not necessarily, I am not at all convinced this would happen. But say it did, do you not think the club would ever have the scope to react to that and rectify it in how they operate the sales and allocation?
 
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