North Stand Construction Discussion

Saddleworth2 said:
Not where I sit mate. The only noise they make round me is the squeals when Haaland comes anywhere near, primarily from Asian youngsters. They are completely not interested in singing along. I said before, the influx of 'one' off match goers is gathering pace and the number of season ticket holders seem to be diminishing (at least where I am in East Stand level 1). There wasn't much concentrated singing comming from SS on Saturday either.

I am sure we are no worse than most other PL teams and football itself is changing from a game 'owned' by the local fan base to just another viewing experience.

Never mind. We will all be able to wear VR helmets to watch the game live and the atmosphere will be awesome without anyone opening their gobs ;-)
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Fair enough mate my observation was in general, I take your point completely.
 
failsworthblueboy said:
It is a long road back to a decent atmosphere at any of the regular European qualifiers, football has been sanitised to death over the years and the bigger you get the more new supporters you get.
The younger fans seem to be a lot more enthusiastic than the FOC's which is natural,but ultimately the clubs desire for money and growth will dictate what they do with the expansion, I remember back in the day on the old Kippax one person started a chant and everyone joined in, now if one person starts a chant very few join in, I admire the 1894 group and any other groups trying to change things but one thing sticks in my mind,
When other fans came to Maine Road we took it as a challenge if they were loud and tried to out sing them far too many fold there arms and listen to the away fans even in the singing section, Our fans need to be as one if the South stand sing the East stand should join in and vise versa not start a different chant, maybe the key is a meeting with each other and not the club.
We are no worse than anyone else throughout the full season but we used to be better than most and as good as any. Can we have the same atmosphere as years ago, I'm not sure but good luck to all those trying to improve things and I hope you succeed.
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As a side point, since the Oasis reunion has been announced, amongst all the excitemenr, the older fans I know have all been will wait to see what the price is, what travel/accommodation they can arrange etc. The younger fans, that have never seen them obviously, are instantly whatever the cost I'm going.

I think this perception that younger people will get priced out is so outdated. Studies have shown that younger people spend more and more readily than the older do on entertainment, and more than they ever did before, and I think there will be a significant element of that with the extra seats too. Hopefully.
 
Stephen230 said:
I think the one thing we can safely say is that ain’t gonna happen. No matter how many people ‘campaign’ for it.
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Why ?...... when there are few if any safety, security, segregation, logistics or transport issues.

If considered 'holistically' there are benefits for all parties on all fronts in addition to the the principal one of enhancing the existence of the atmosphere in a CITY end.

I genuinely do not understand the resistance !!
 
jrb said:
You don't have to wait until the hotel is built to see the fins don't look great. The mock-up of the fin is enough. Have a look yourself.

The next time you are in the city centre go and see the St Michael's fin cladding close up. You won't be disappointed. It's on Bottle Street, just off Albert Square and Deansgate.
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I'll admit that it's entirely down to me that I have trouble visualising a completed structure via a small mock-up so you and Coatigan may well be right. Of course they may also change a lot before then, I'm just happier letting them get on with it and see what it looks like at the end.
 
Man_City_Loyal said:
whats the GA + section?
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Padded seats, reportedly. They are premium seats with access to their own bar as part of the same shared concourse and toilets. They are not however boxes, with any barrier or offset around them or any different seating spacing to what is around them. Who they will be sold to and how, time will tell.

People seem to have varying expectations for them, from padded seats for blues paying a bit more, to 'inserting the tunnel club into the kopp'. But physically and as proposed they are just more expensive seats with a more expensive bar.
 
Gone for a Burton said:
Moving the away fans out of SS3 to ESL would be a simple start !!

A campaign needs starting to achieve this to coincide with the re organisation for the NS extension.

GET IT DONE !!
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Gone for a Burton said:
Why ?...... when there are few if any safety, security, segregation, logistics or transport issues.

If considered 'holistically' there are benefits for all parties on all fronts in addition to the the principal one of enhancing the existence of the atmosphere in a CITY end.

I genuinely do not understand the resistance !!
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1) Not sure where you've been since 2003 but a bloke called Mr Plod has repeatedly said the away fans will stay in the south east corner, and games can't go ahead without the approval of Mr Plod.
2) City fans in ESL probably won't want to be moved. Have you considered that?
3) The club won't care about moving away fans if the bulk of City's singing support moves to the north stand.
 
Gone for a Burton said:
Why ?...... when there are few if any safety, security, segregation, logistics or transport issues.

If considered 'holistically' there are benefits for all parties on all fronts in addition to the the principal one of enhancing the existence of the atmosphere in a CITY end.

I genuinely do not understand the resistance !!
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Because they have it boxed off now with all fans in one corner. Easy segregation. And all sorted outside with the away carpark and entrances.

Why would they even consider fucking about so City fans are above them in two stands. Additional headaches with segregation and entry. And as the other guy says, fucking City fans about who’ve been in the stand for 20 years. Plus police problems.

All because it may or may not slightly improve the atmosphere?

Won’t happen.
 
Gray said:
Thanks pal, I didn’t see that as I jumped straight to the last page.
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It is a level of 'hospitality', as an offering, no doubt about that. It is just where on the scale of 'proper fans' to 'proper corporate' that really ends up that people's understanding and expectations differ.

Still, it is 648 seats, out of over 9500 in a single tier, and over 12000 overall. The atmosphere should be able to survive that imo.

Overall under 13% of hospitality and only 5% dedicated separate boxes etc, is good going imo.
 
Coatigan said:
It is a level of 'hospitality', as an offering, no doubt about that. It is just where on the scale of 'proper fans' to 'proper corporate' that really ends up that people's understanding and expectations differ.

Still, it is 648 seats, out of over 9500 in a single tier, and over 12000 overall. The atmosphere should be able to survive that imo.

Overall under 13% of hospitality and only 5% dedicated separate boxes etc, is good going imo.
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Going to look into that when it comes on offer. At present I am in block 211 which is a fair way from the Metrolink stop, that would be much nearer.
 
Ysabel 123 said:
Are any bands booked in for the Stadium next Summer?

Only asking because we make some of serious money by having the biggest bands play at the Etihad every summer. (Lets be honest Taylor Swift would have been at the Etihad not Anfield this summer if it wasn't for the building works)!

There is a rumor going round of an Oasis reunion next summer with 10 nights in Manchester. I cant see anyone booked into play next summer at the Ground?

Probably a load of crap but it makes you think? Noel has got his own kit this year and now gets seen at more games than Pete the Badge!
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Are City allowed any big concerts as they own/part own the Coop live?
 
failsworthblueboy said:
It is a long road back to a decent atmosphere at any of the regular European qualifiers, football has been sanitised to death over the years and the bigger you get the more new supporters you get.
The younger fans seem to be a lot more enthusiastic than the FOC's which is natural,but ultimately the clubs desire for money and growth will dictate what they do with the expansion, I remember back in the day on the old Kippax one person started a chant and everyone joined in, now if one person starts a chant very few join in, I admire the 1894 group and any other groups trying to change things but one thing sticks in my mind,
When other fans came to Maine Road we took it as a challenge if they were loud and tried to out sing them far too many fold there arms and listen to the away fans even in the singing section, Our fans need to be as one if the South stand sing the East stand should join in and vise versa not start a different chant, maybe the key is a meeting with each other and not the club.
We are no worse than anyone else throughout the full season but we used to be better than most and as good as any. Can we have the same atmosphere as years ago, I'm not sure but good luck to all those trying to improve things and I hope you succeed.
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In Thailand many years ago and just paid a bar fine to take her from there back to my room to teach her the finer points of speaking English ( honestly). Anyway we were walking past this bar and the shutter was halfway down and looked in and we we were playing Hamburg so obviously stooped in and asked was it ok to come in for a quick beer?. He said yes and the guy was from North Manchester called BAZ and he was a blue. Now I know that it can be a bit flat at the ground at times but this was before Mancini and we had won fuckall for years but the atmosphere that night on that big screen was something else it wasn’t a roar but a scream like I’ve never heard before (apart from Colin bell’s return against Newcastle in the 70s). Even though we didn’t progress further that night i at least found a new bar in La Mai in Koh Samui. The girl? That’s another story with a happy ending. Baz by the way a few years died later of an heart attack in his bedroom above the bar in his City shirt. Sorely missed.
 
Spanishbob said:
In Thailand many years ago and just paid a bar fine to take her from there back to my room to teach her the finer points of speaking English ( honestly). Anyway we were walking past this bar and the shutter was halfway down and looked in and we we were playing Hamburg so obviously stooped in and asked was it ok to come in for a quick beer?. He said yes and the guy was from North Manchester called BAZ and he was a blue. Now I know that it can be a bit flat at the ground at times but this was before Mancini and we had won fuckall for years but the atmosphere that night on that big screen was something else it wasn’t a roar but a scream like I’ve never heard before (apart from Colin bell’s return against Newcastle in the 70s). Even though we didn’t progress further that night i at least found a new bar in La Mai in Koh Samui. The girl? That’s another story with a happy ending. Baz by the way a few years died later of an heart attack in his bedroom above the bar in his City shirt. Sorely missed.
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I was at the Colin Bell return game, to this day and for me it is the best atmosphere I have ever heard or felt.
 
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