PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[MMA]

None of us know for sure, but yes I don't think they have anything beyond the emails. I think I'm probably with CAS that if we played nicer earlier on then we might have avoided this altogether, but also understand the club's position that they don't trust them as far as they can throw them.

"Why always us"......

I love khaldoon.

I hope he's seen his arse big time over this and had enough.

You can only back a genuine nice guy into a corner for so long before he shows you who the real man is.

 

[Zabbasbeard]

So basically the PL are barking up the same wrong tree as UEFA
That’s how I have seen it all along. It just puzzles me that the PL are stupid enough to do the same

It is one big, damaging smear and fishing campaign. Damage has been done in lost sponsorships I'd imagine, not to mention players who wouldn't come to City. That said, if they believe that crap then do we really want them?

 

[Uwe Already]

Sooo, just to throw a stink bomb in to the room, anybody have any inkling about our request for the prems emails regarding City? I heard as part of our court case against them we asked for these? Surely that’d throw up some concerns!

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

Stay confident Blues and believe in the words of our amazing people.

 

[Quilted]

So for £67.5 million per anum (1.5% of mean annual revenue), do Etihad Airways sponsors of the football World Champions receive value for money ?

The Premier League wants to remain the best league in the world but at the same time it wants to restrain its members' revenue avenues? Make it make sense.

If the Premier League wants english clubs to ever have a strangehold on European trophies it needs to do away with PSR and let clubs put in how much money they want to put in.

 

[malg]

....have I just read that someone has a unicorn as a pet?

 

[cheekybids]

So for £67.5 million per anum (1.5% of mean annual revenue), do Etihad Airways sponsors of the football World Champions receive value for money ?

Off the top of my head, they receive the following services:-

1 A large part of Manchester M11 has been named the Etihad campus for over a decade now.

2 The Etihad Airways stadium sign is seen by millions of passengers flying into Manchester Airport on the east Manc inbound route.

3 The millions of people who have seen Etihad Airways ads during visits to the stadium for games/concerts/conferences etc.

4 The hundreds of millions of people who have seen Etihad Airways on MCFC kits (men and women) during televised games

5 The millions of MCFC/Etihad references seen daily on digital platforms all over the globe, news, social media etc

6 The millions of passengers who have flown on Etihad Airways aircraft painted in the beautiful sky blue MCFC livery.

7 The millions of replica kits worn around the world by fans with the ’can’t miss’ Etihad Airways brand on display

8 The Manchester Metro Etihad station, used/seen by hundreds of thousands of rag commuters.

How does that lot compare to the dipps for receiving £50 per anum for Standard Chartered on their kits?, is it Fair Market Value ?

You’d have to ask ISIS…….

 

[dickie davies]

Did you ask Raggie why Chevrolet sacked the person who negotiated their sponsorship deal with his shit club because it was over inflated or why the Team Viewer sponsorship deal was approved even though the financial information available showed and was subsequently proved that they couldn't afford to honour it.
If he wants to go back further, ask him why the questions that Coolmore asked about Fergusons dodgy financial deals were never answered or why they were allowed to generate millions of pounds by floating on the stock market when FA rules permitted this at the time.

And that some of city's charges relate to Mancini receiving money for a consultancy role in the UAE when managing City
Ferguson received a large stake in a racehorse as a bonus, which everyone knows about, and this was never questioned

 

[cheekybids]

Did you ask Raggie why Chevrolet sacked the person who negotiated their sponsorship deal with his shit club because it was over inflated or why the Team Viewer sponsorship deal was approved even though the financial information available showed and was subsequently proved that they couldn't afford to honour it.
If he wants to go back further, ask him why the questions that Coolmore asked about Fergusons dodgy financial deals were never answered or why they were allowed to generate millions of pounds by floating on the stock market when FA rules permitted this at the time.

Could also ask him if there was a contract for off the book payments to the Piss Can from Coolmore which ended with a £3m tax free out of court settlement. What services did GPC provide for that & as it was only 2004 just 4 years prior to Mancini will it be investigated?

 

[foggy1974]

None of us know for sure, but yes I don't think they have anything beyond the emails. I think I'm probably with CAS that if we played nicer earlier on then we might have avoided this altogether, but also understand the club's position that they don't trust them as far as they can throw them.

When it comes to the EPL,It depends what they've asked for & whether it's in their remit. I would presume Etihad accounts don't come under their remit

 

[cheekybids]

And that some of city's charges relate to Mancini receiving money for a consultancy role in the UAE when managing City
Ferguson received a large stake in a racehorse as a bonus, which everyone knows about, and this was never questioned

Oops beat me to it.

 

[foggy1974]

The Premier League wants to remain the best league in the world but at the same time it wants to restrain its members' revenue avenues? Make it make sense.

If the Premier League wants english clubs to ever have a strangehold on European trophies it needs to do away with PSR and let clubs put in how much money they want to put in.

When you say English clubs do you mean only red cartel clubs

 

[Quilted]

When you say English clubs do you mean only red cartel clubs

No matter how much a certain club from Stretford spend, they still manage to finish rock bottom in a group stage consisting of Galatasary and Copenhagen.

Give those same financial resources to a club like Leicester or West Ham and they get to the Semi Finals.

 

[foggy1974]

No matter how much a certain club from Stretford spend, they still manage to finish rock bottom in a group stage consisting of Galatasary and Copenhagen.

Give those same financial resources to a club like Leicester or West Ham and they get to the Semi Finals.

And that is the difference, they can have all the resources, but they have idiots spending it

 

[bluenova]

The Premier League wants to remain the best league in the world but at the same time it wants to restrain its members' revenue avenues? Make it make sense.

If the Premier League wants english clubs to ever have a strangehold on European trophies it needs to do away with PSR and let clubs put in how much money they want to put in.

There is an argument that the Premier League is currently in an almost unassailable position as the most valuable league in the World.

The TV rights are double La Liga, and more than triple Serie A and the Bundesliga. That inequality is pretty much unprecedented, and with the amounts involved isn't likely to be closed any time soon.

The PL has also gone from a big three, to a big four, and now a big six - all in the top ten richest clubs in the World. Elsewhere, while the superclubs are doing well, the gaps between the traditional big 1 or 2 in each league is getting even larger. While I think the PL has too many rich clubs for it to happen, France is a major warning to any league that allows an owner to put in money way beyond the rest of the clubs. PSG are now something like four times the size of any other club, but the league's value is pitiful, with PSG's yearly revenue higher than Ligue 1's entire TV deal!

The PL has the most money, the best players, and is still more competitive, with more "world famous" clubs than any other league. They're probably happy with the status quo (as obviously are the clubs at the top).

 

[Zabbasbeard]

The Premier League wants to remain the best league in the world but at the same time it wants to restrain its members' revenue avenues? Make it make sense.

If the Premier League wants english clubs to ever have a strangehold on European trophies it needs to do away with PSR and let clubs put in how much money they want to put in.

Trouble is they don't truly want those things. They are too short-sighted and are at the behest of the redshirt cartel whose success they perceive as being "good" for their "product", i.e ones that would bring more revenue. They don't want gatecrashers like Manchester City, and Newcastle United who threaten the Establishment's ability to make millions.

 

[bluenova]

Sooo, just to throw a stink bomb in to the room, anybody have any inkling about our request for the prems emails regarding City? I heard as part of our court case against them we asked for these? Surely that’d throw up some concerns!

If they don't give us all of them, will we sue for non-cooperation?

 

[Quilted]

PSG are now something like four times the size of any other club,

The owners of Rennes, Monaco, Nice, Montpellier, Reims and Marseille are all billionaires. Why have they not spent proper money?

 

[halfcenturyup]

There is an argument that the Premier League is currently in an almost unassailable position as the most valuable league in the World.

The TV rights are double La Liga, and more than triple Serie A and the Bundesliga. That inequality is pretty much unprecedented, and with the amounts involved isn't likely to be closed any time soon.

The PL has also gone from a big three, to a big four, and now a big six - all in the top ten richest clubs in the World. Elsewhere, while the superclubs are doing well, the gaps between the traditional big 1 or 2 in each league is getting even larger. While I think the PL has too many rich clubs for it to happen, France is a major warning to any league that allows an owner to put in money way beyond the rest of the clubs. PSG are now something like four times the size of any other club, but the league's value is pitiful, with PSG's yearly revenue higher than Ligue 1's entire TV deal!

The PL has the most money, the best players, and is still more competitive, with more "world famous" clubs than any other league. They're probably happy with the status quo (as obviously are the clubs at the top).

The thing is: the clubs at the top of the PL have to comply with UEFA FFP anyway, so you have a control on "big club" spending even if the PL completely drops their PSR. What that would do is encourage the next layer of clubs to invest to catch up with the top clubs. Imagine 8 or 10 clubs fighting for CL places every year ....

 

[cheekybids]

The thing is: the clubs at the top of the PL have to comply with UEFA FFP anyway, so you have a control on "big club" spending even if the PL completely drops their PSR. What that would do is encourage the next layer of clubs to invest to catch up with the top clubs. Imagine 8 or 10 clubs fighting for CL places every year ....

“Imagine 8 or 10 clubs fighting for CL places every year…….”

I imagine they choked on their dessert at the thought of it.