PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[SilverFox2]

Absolutely this.
As long as Sheik Mansour is still onboard and we're winning things then the smear campaign will carry on.

Ah well.
They will have to get used to us winning and Sheikh M doing what they know he is good at.

Smear away, the harder we try.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

i think he need medical help just full stop, him and alot of others have invested so much time and energy into their hatred of us regardless of what happens they are going to crash when the hearing is over regardless of how it goes, when we win they will nash their teeth and say its not fait, it was a swizz, it was a technicality etc etc but they will really have nowhere to go and nothing to do and have to find something or someone else to hate, if the worst happens they will say see i was right and once again have nowhere to go and nothing to do and have to find someone else to hate, its a looming crisis to them as they have nothing else to offer and that attention and potential revenue stream for all of them is about to go away really really fast and then what will they do?

A lot of people have made a lot of money from the anti-city narrative. But it is coming to an end and the circus will move on. We have probably reached the point.

 

[Paladin]

I would say that it depends what it says in the emails. CAS stated that an email suggesting that we could do x, did not amount to proof that we actually did x.

But an email stating that we had done x might be seen in a different light.

Also, one of the three panel members DID think that the emails suggesting that we could do x, amounted to proof that we actually did x. This person was an experienced lawyer.

 

[feedmpenzaandhewillscore]

Also, one of the three panel members DID think that the emails suggesting that we could do x, amounted to proof that we actually did x. This person was an experienced lawyer.

You wouldn’t want that lawyer anywhere near a murder case. If an email arises where someone threatens to commit murder, that evidence convicts them even without evidence anyone has actually been murdered.

 

[paulchapo]

A lot of people have made a lot of money from the anti-city narrative. But it is coming to an end and the circus will move on. We have probably reached the point.

No chance they will still make a living out of it. If innocent they will write forever why that decision was reached and how, in their opinion, it was the wrong one. If guilty they will milk that forever.

 

[Maly]

Also, one of the three panel members DID think that the emails suggesting that we could do x, amounted to proof that we actually did x. This person was an experienced lawyer.

I thought his reasoning that we were guilty was bizarre if my memory serves. Wasn’t his reasoning purely based on the fact we didn’t cooperate?

 

[slbsn]

I would say that it depends what it says in the emails. CAS stated that an email suggesting that we could do x, did not amount to proof that we actually did x.

But an email stating that we had done x might be seen in a different light.

Emails are important. All contemporaneous documents are. But other evidence is also important. This is why it appears the hearing will last TEN weeks. All of that evidence will need to be evaluated.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

No chance they will still make a living out of it. If innocent they will write forever why that decision was reached and how, in their opinion, it was the wrong one. If guilty they will milk that forever.

The cartel are in severe decline. It’s a new era and City are a huge money spinner for overseas broadcasters and digital media. The UK media is mostly struggling. Most of them will have to change their policy towards City. In fact I think this has already happened.

 

[lancs blue]

Also, one of the three panel members DID think that the emails suggesting that we could do x, amounted to proof that we actually did x. This person was an experienced lawyer.

IIRC he thought we were guilty on every count, I'm not fully convinced that he was applying his legal expertise with the required impartiality...

 

[laserblue]

Also, one of the three panel members DID think that the emails suggesting that we could do x, amounted to proof that we actually did x. This person was an experienced lawyer.

That was the panel member chosen by UEFA so not too much of a surprise there.

 

[slbsn]

IIRC he thought we were guilty on every count, I'm not fully convinced that he was applying his legal expertise with the required impartiality...

You should assume he was being impartial and he is an experienced arbitrator. But has no business experience at all. He is an academic which may explain a certain approach.

 

[Rory Bluelow]

No chance they will still make a living out of it. If innocent they will write forever why that decision was reached and how, in their opinion, it was the wrong one. If guilty they will milk that forever.

As long as we’re winning big trophies and their favoured clubs still losing, we will be their best excuse for being shite. As you say, irrespective of which way our case goes. I can’t see it stopping and am ceasing to give a fuck about it - it may reduce if other clubs like Newcastle or Villa come through and win something.

 

[foggy1974]

You wouldn’t want that lawyer anywhere near a murder case. If an email arises where someone threatens to commit murder, that evidence convicts them even without evidence anyone has actually been murdered.

Is the salient point 'they could' without evidence then it's similar to saying there could be life on Mars

 

[Asa's left peg]

That was the panel member chosen by UEFA so not too much of a surprise there.

I'm always interested as to what the conversation might have been between the two parties. UEFA ' Hi Mr Lawyer. We were wondering if you would be our represenative on the CAS Panel? Mr Lawyer - 'Yeah sure. What are the charges .... and what's your evidence?

But of course it could have been .... ' Yeah! What does it pay?

 

[Rory Bluelow]

You should assume he was being impartial and he is an experienced arbitrator. But has no business experience at all. He is an academic which may explain a certain approach.

May we also assume that when “casting his vote” he knew the position the other panel members were taking ? Would the three-man panel typically have a collective discussion ?

 

[GaudinoMotors]

He’s an idiot Harris a mentally disturbed one at that ..

That's his Get Out Of Jail Free card, that some on here are buying to be all magnanimous and lovely. Facts are, he's researching (badly, granted), writing, getting stuff published, responding, receiving payments, making decisions.
Not mentally ill, despite the tragedy that befell him - and many of us too. He's made the autonomous decision to be completely against us. Fck him.

 

[Gazza]

I would say that it depends what it says in the emails. CAS stated that an email suggesting that we could do x, did not amount to proof that we actually did x.

But an email stating that we had done x might be seen in a different light.

Even if the email had been spliced together in a manner that would resemble a dyslexic kidnapper's ransom note.

 

[TonyColemansbagofapples]

Do not panic my friend. Trust in Khaldoon, he hasn’t let us down yet, and I’d rather trust what he says against some other gobshite masquerading as a journalist.
Stay calm, it’ll be over soon.

Edited for accuracy

 

[The perfect fumble]

You wouldn’t want that lawyer anywhere near a murder case. If an email arises where someone threatens to commit murder, that evidence convicts them even without evidence anyone has actually been murdered.

If that "anyone" is seen having a pint and scoffing a kebab, you can have as many emails as you like.

City is relaxed about this hearing not just because they have mountains of "irrefutable evidence", but because they know they didn't break the rules, the evidence is merely a means of convincing others of that fact.

The club will now have seen the breadth and depth of the case stacked against them, I'm not privy to any inside knowledge, but nothing I've seen these last twelve months or so would indicate that City feel beleaguered, preparing themselves for the worst, quite the opposite in fact.

 

[cheekybids]

You should assume he was being impartial and he is an experienced arbitrator. But has no business experience at all. He is an academic which may explain a certain approach.

Is it possible his background as an academic rather than business is why UEFA selected him?