PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

norman said:
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Extract from an article in the Law Society Gazette which I hope (I’m an FOC) should be accessible via the link above for anyone interested.
“The sports silk... has voiced concern that the league criticised its own decision-making panel of eminent lawyers after losing the case."
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Perhaps more importantly, he also said this:
'sports regulators should be careful criticising panels when they don't get the result they want. Such criticism risks undermining the independence and integrity of the Premier League's own judicial process.'

I'm sure that Lord Pannick will be reminding our panel of this!
 
Stoned Rose said:
Like I’ve said, I could email you now saying Ive just bummed Michelle Keegan in her city kit. I could go into deep detail about it.

But if I didn’t bum her, and there’s evidence I didn’t, ie she says it never happened she’s never even met me before, the emails don’t mean anything.

It’s the actual action carried out (or not) that matters not an email.
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So did you bum her or not?
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
I recall reading those emails but I don't recall reading them and thinking "Oh shit. Pearce lied.". In fact I do recall thinking there was nothing particularly sensational to see, but people like Harris, and that snake Conn, were all over them. I even think they may have been revealed in the CAS hearing.

It seemed to me it was a final grasping at straws, and was all very reminiscent of that famous scene in Downfall, where Hitler summons up Steiner's mythical army group.
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I was more in the middle, there’s more there to explain than at CAS but thought it could still be explainable.
 
halfcenturyup said:
Which emails were these that "admit" the allegations? I have seen emails and attachments that talk about AD sponsorships as "shareholder funding" and I have seen the emails where Pearce takes it on himself to "arrange" some payments having stated to CAS that he had categorically never arranged any payments.

Are you thinking of any other emails?
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Sorry, not trying to be flippant - I can't be arsed trawling through magictw*t's thread again but I had it bookmarked, it's a thread on their twitter from May this year. Within the thread are emails which he/she says were not discussed at CAS and allegedly contradict the evidence provided.
 
ayrshire_blue said:
Sorry, not trying to be flippant - I can't be arsed trawling through magictw*t's thread again but I had it bookmarked, it's a thread on their twitter from May this year. Within the thread are emails which he/she says were not discussed at CAS and allegedly contradict the evidence provided.
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Can I just clarify that you are quoting what loony loony loony Nick Harris/ Magic hat tweeted?
 
Stoned Rose said:
Like I’ve said, I could email you now saying Ive just bummed Michelle Keegan in her city kit. I could go into deep detail about it.

But if I didn’t bum her, and there’s evidence I didn’t, ie she says it never happened she’s never even met me before, the emails don’t mean anything.

It’s the actual action carried out (or not) that matters not an email.
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Did you, or did you not, bum Michelle Keegan?

Please PM me any photos of what might of, or what didn’t happen.

Yours,
excitedly waiting for he did photos. @Mid Wales blue
 
jacko74 said:
Well the print media, the broadcasters and their associated advertisers don't seem to have figured out that's now the case and are all still desperate for the rags to remain relevant.
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Honestly, I do some “fun coaching” (if coaching is the right word given their ages and that it’s mainly about them all having fun) for ages up to 11 on a Saturday, out of 50 boys and girls, I’d say around 70% wear City tops, after that it’s Chelsea. Very few red shirts around and those that do tend to have fathers that also wear them. But it’s amazing how many kids wear City shirts and their Dad’s are United fans.

Kids tend to want to wear the shirt of, and be associated with the team that’s winning, especially when removed from the immediate locality.

It’ll take a while but the demographics are very much moving in City’s favour.
 
ayrshire_blue said:
Sorry, not trying to be flippant - I can't be arsed trawling through magictw*t's thread again but I had it bookmarked, it's a thread on their twitter from May this year. Within the thread are emails which he/she says were not discussed at CAS and allegedly contradict the evidence provided.
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Yeah it was all based on forecasts. So absolutely nothing to look at. I produced a forecast saying I'll make 10 million this tax year via a capital injection, I won't get anywhere near that as it's just a forecast and not actually reality. Just because it's written down in a presentation doesn't mean it will happen. Let's see what the accounts said for the year as this is what actually happened rather than forecast written a full year before the event.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
I recall reading those emails but I don't recall reading them and thinking "Oh shit. Pearce lied.". In fact I do recall thinking there was nothing particularly sensational to see, but people like Harris, and that snake Conn, were all over them. I even think they may have been revealed in the CAS hearing.

It seemed to me it was a final grasping at straws, and was all very reminiscent of that famous scene in Downfall, where Hitler summons up Steiner's mythical army group.
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From what I remember, the issue around Pearce was him telling CAS that he hadn't arranged a payment.
The emails appeared to show him telling how the payment should be made.

I read it as different interpretation in what 'arranging' meant, and didn't think it would be hard to negate any questions.
 
I see a number of other journos have started following Magic Hat in the past few days !!

Quelle surprise
 
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tolmie's hairdoo said:
It's in Pearce contradiction he had never got involved in arranging monies at CAS.

A subsequent email after CAS suggested otherwise?
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I looked at it again. It's here if anyone else wants to read it: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/s...-City-did-cheat-Premier-League-FFP-rules.html

The email was from Pearce, using his Executive Council email, sorting out an issue with the payment to Etihad from the EC, which hadn't been calculated correctly. We already knew that the EC funded the majority of that sponsorship so that's no revelation. In it, he uses the term "we" to refer to City but says "...I have underpaid you". That was jumped on by Harris, in the MoS piece above, to show that Pearce had lied to CAS when he denied arranging any payments to Etihad.

On one level it does seem to contradict that denial but, as we know, those emails were used incredibly selectively. There could easily be other interpretations of that email, including that Pearce was asked to sort out the problem on misaligned payments on behalf of the EC, or that his denial was based on not being the person who made the sponsorship arrangement on behalf of the EC. Or that "arranged" was interpreted by him as being the person who actually made the transfer. Who knows? In that email he appears to be doing some arithmetic and sorting out with Etihad how they want to correct the mistake.

But at the end of the day, even if Pearce had blatantly lied, it's a complete red herring. It has no bearing on the central charge of equity funding being disguised as sponsorship revenue. The Executive Council provided the additional money to Etihad and whether it was Pearce, Sheikh Mohammed, some other functionary or Uncle Tom fucking Cobbleigh. it makes zero difference to the overall outcome. As I said, total grasping at straws.
 
SWP's back said:
Honestly, I do some “fun coaching” (if coaching is the right word given their ages and that it’s mainly about them all having fun) for ages up to 11 on a Saturday, out of 50 boys and girls, I’d say around 70% wear City tops, after that it’s Chelsea. Very few red shirts around and those that do tend to have fathers that also wear them. But it’s amazing how many kids wear City shirts and their Dad’s are United fans.

Kids tend to want to wear the shirt of, and be associated with the team that’s winning, especially when removed from the immediate locality.

It’ll take a while but the demographics are very much moving in City’s favour.
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There’s a few on here could do with a bit of fun coaching.
 
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