PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

Goatmeal said:
Question for the legal experts
Is there a world in which this hearing could just collapse due to lack of legitimate evidence?
Or do they have to hear everyone out and conclude at the end?
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not really. Closest to that is some proposal to settle on very favourable terms. All unlikely at this stage
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
They must have been aware of Fordham as UEFA spoke to us about it in 2014 or 2015. As the PL act as the FFP licensor, they were surely either involved or at least aware of these discussions. And Fordham was visibly linked to City, specifically the Manchester City Sports Image Rights company, on the Companies House website. It's inconceivable that the Der Spiegel articles were the first they'd heard about Fordham.

I'd have thought if we could show that the PL were acting under pressure from certain clubs, following the pretty definitive CAS outcome, that would have some impact on our case and that it was potentially vexatious rather than principled.
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I suppose the question on Fordham is what the PL knew and when. It may be that they knew about the arrangement in 2015 through UEFA, but they didn't know about the "underwriting" by ADUG (if indeed there really was one) until 2018. In which case an investigation of the revenue in 2013 would be time limited, but the underwriting payments wouldn't be time limited. For example. We just don't know enough to come to any conclusion, really.
 
halfcenturyup said:
I suppose the question on Fordham is what the PL knew and when. It may be that they knew about the arrangement in 2015 through UEFA, but they didn't know about the "underwriting" by ADUG (if indeed there really was one) until 2018. In which case an investigation of the revenue in 2013 would be time limited, but the underwriting payments wouldn't be time limited. For example. We just don't know enough to come to any conclusion, really.
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Urrggghh ….. you’re sounding like a solicitor ;)
 
halfcenturyup said:
I suppose the question on Fordham is what the PL knew and when. It may be that they knew about the arrangement in 2015 through UEFA, but they didn't know about the "underwriting" by ADUG (if indeed there really was one) until 2018. In which case an investigation of the revenue in 2013 would be time limited, but the underwriting payments wouldn't be time limited. For example. We just don't know enough to come to any conclusion, really.
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My guess on the Fordham situation is that either image rights payments suddenly weren't included in our FFP submission or that they appeared as being from a third-party. I assume this is why UEFA approached us about it. There's almost no conceivable way the PL wouldn't have been aware of that, as they're the first ones to see the toolkit spreadsheet we have to submit for FFP.

Even if they didn't pick it up, and UEFA did, it's simply not feasible that the PL were left out of the discussion.
 
jrb said:
Let’s be honest. If City wanted to take the Scouse hacking further, they could have. City decided to settle out of court with a pay off. We’ll never know the reason why. The PL were happy with that. City could have absolutely slaughtered Henry and Liverpool in court. But City decided not to do that. Yet all along Henry and Liverpool have been behind the constant and under handed smear campaign and attacks against City. Very strange decision by City.
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We know the reason why
City would have left itself open to an investigation into its GDPR procedures

commission.europa.eu

What if my company/organisation fails to comply with the data protection rules?

A range of sanctions, including suspension of activities and fines can be imposed if your company doesn’t comply with EU law on data protection.
commission.europa.eu commission.europa.eu
 
@gordondaviesmoustache
Completely irrelevant in the grand scheme of things but.. when I see lawyers using a trolley to wheel massive boxes of legal papers into the courtroom I always wonder why they don’t save themselves the bother and use digital versions.

Presumably would also be much easier to use within proceedings as well if you can just open a file instead of sifting through thousands of docs.

Maybe it’s a bit grandstanding on the courtroom precinct.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Probably time-barred anyway.
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That's reassuring, but also adds to the sense that everything will just go round in circles with the media and fans of other clubs repeating the myth that we only "got off" on time-barring issues

It doesn't bother me (on the contrary I'll fight fire with fire), but I fear for the mental strength of our more vulnerable supporters who might be struggling with this permanent assumption of guilt from such a vindictive witch-hunt
 
Scaring Europe to Death said:
That's reassuring, but also adds to the sense that everything will just go round in circles with the media and fans of other clubs repeating the myth that we only "got off" on time-barring issues

It doesn't bother me (on the contrary I'll fight fire with fire), but I fear for the mental strength of our more vulnerable supporters who might be struggling with this permanent assumption of guilt from such a vindictive witch-hunt
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I’m not arsed what rival says anymore... If any United fan says that I’ll just say well the whole world knows you got away with PSR. Past caring what they say.
 
Stoned Rose said:
You’d say good luck to any club purposely not abiding by the rules because they don’t like the rules they signed up to?

If that’s the case, let’s just leave it there and crack on with our days.
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So you're saying that all legislative processes are entirely just and fair and enforced even handedly and no form of corruption, bias, nepotism, favouritism etc exists in any way shape or form throughout the whole of society? (Not just football)

So if chairman Keir introduces a new law that anyone who goes on the internet with the username "stoned rose" has to have their cock removed using a rusty butter knife you'd be entirely happy about that because that's the law and we all have to abide by it.
 
Stoned Rose said:
Evidence of this?
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forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk

PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

Maybe I'm way off on this one but could it be possible that we've been talking with the prem league for a while and we've admitted our guilt. Some sort of settlement has been agreed which would involve a huge fine and points deduction, but the hearing still has to take place anyway. It's could...
forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk

That's good enough for me
 
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