PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

give it to gordon said:
Once City are cleared could City take action against the people behind this witchhunt ?
Why are other clubs allowed to break the rules like rags ?
Why isn't the pl doing a 4 year investigation into the other 19 clubs ?
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No. Not in that sense anyway.

The PL will say it is a legitimate investigation and hearing.

City won't be 'burning everything down' after the hearing is over.

I think Tolmie has said he's heard City will apply for damages in terms of lost sponsorship etc.

But I think Stefan disagreed?
 
Groke said:
or
email 1: I'm going to kill the gym this afternoon
email 2: I'm going out with my wife tonight
Der Spiegel evidence: I'm going to kill my wife tonight
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I don't think this is what happened.

City didn't contest that the spliced emails fundementally altered their meaning.
 
Dukefan9 said:
Will a hearing like this have “leaks” as we go through the process of will it be a pretty tight ship on information until a decision has been made?
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Absolutely no leaks.

How do I know that?

Because the media pricks have gone into overdrive about what will happen to us.

At the minute we're being relegated to the Stockport Sunday league, we're getting docked 500 points, we're getting docked 25 points per season forever, we're also getting expelled from every competition, every single player is looking at other options, pep and kdb will lead the walkouts
Oh and a transfer ban which, by the way, will be hard to impose if we aren't playing in any competition or don't have any players.


So as you can probably tell our lovely chaps in the press are like junkies who have gone cold turkey.
 
And if the BBC could get any worse with its constant insinuations and lies about City they are now trying to defend the theiving Portugese piece of shit for "morally saving" football. Where were the BBC morals regarding Jimmy Savile and Huw Edwards? Oh yes, they were swept under the carpet.

Anyhow, here's the article



Man City case 'moral reward' for Football Leaks hacker, lawyer claims - https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/c74852evz50o
 
halfcenturyup said:
Surprised at that view, PB.

In the very worst case scenario that the bulk of the Etihad revenue was falsely included in the accounts in the way alleged, how could that have happened without the very serious, wide-ranging and deliberate deception against the PL, UEFA, the auditors and the club's commercial partners that you suggest would lead to expulsion, relegation or a large points deduction?

Don't get me wrong, I don't think they have any way of proving that for many, many reasons. I was just surprised at your thinking.
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I couldn't understand your response at first but think I've got it now.

There's a big difference in doing something that's deliberately deceptive and doing something you believe you have good grounds for. It's the difference between acting in bad faith and good faith.

For example, we proved to the comfortable satisfaction of the CAS panel that the Etihad sponsorship wasn't disguised equity investment, as we presented evidence that it had come from a source other than ADUG. So unless the PL has an email or other evidence that specifically contradicts that testimony, they will struggle to prove it. If they do have cogent evidence that there was a conspiracy to lie and mislead the panel, then we would be in serious trouble.

Same for Fordham. We didn't do that to hide expenses but to bring in revenue. I assume we took good legal and financial advice about that, and that we didn't act in deliberate bad faith. But the IC could potentially still find us in breach of something, but not that we acted deceptively.
 
manimanc said:
Absolutely no leaks.

How do I know that?

Because the media pricks have gone into overdrive about what will happen to us.

At the minute we're being relegated to the Stockport Sunday league, we're getting docked 500 points, we're getting docked 25 points per season forever, we're also getting expelled from every competition, every single player is looking at other options, pep and kdb will lead the walkouts
Oh and a transfer ban which, by the way, will be hard to impose if we aren't playing in any competition or don't have any players.


So as you can probably tell our lovely chaps in the press are like junkies who have gone cold turkey.
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Don't forget we're getting every single trophy we've ever won since 1904 taken off us as well
 
bigA said:
And if the BBC could get any worse with its constant insinuations and lies about City they are now trying to defend the theiving Portugese piece of shit for "morally saving" football. Where were the BBC morals regarding Jimmy Savile and Huw Edwards? Oh yes, they were swept under the carpet.

Anyhow, here's the article



Man City case 'moral reward' for Football Leaks hacker, lawyer claims - https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/c74852evz50o
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I use the bbc trash site for weather and fixtures. That’s pretty much it. They are a complete moral cesspit, I am a lefty but would be happy for them bastards to enter the big bad free market with no public funded license for the absolute dross they broadcast.
 
GortonBlue62 said:
I think the mood of the thread is that we've got this, but as nobody knows anything we might as well just keep talking over the same issues repeatedly.

It's reassuring, but we do sound like a bunch of old women (no offence @Eccles Blue ;-)).
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None taken. I AM an old woman. As long as you don’t say I haven’t got a sense of humour! ;-) :-)
 
abu13 said:
There was an article this morning stating that the Rags may invest £1.5 billion in a new stadium to replace the shithole, given they already have the best part of £1 billion of debt then this is a huge figure. Now I understand the argument that if all goes to their plan the increased crowds will help fund the project. But how is that any different to owner investment, our owners pumped money into the club with a medium term plan to grow the club, increase revenues and build the brand.

In essence how is it any different, both clubs wanting to invest for the future prosperity of the club but one is ok and the other leads to the shit storm we have had to endure.
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It's obviously different.
It's yyyooounited.
A national treasure.
The premier league needs a successful Manchester yyyyooountited apparently
 
supercity88 said:
I don't want to start another thread, but how will you feel and what will you do if we're cleared of these charges.

The length of time this has been going on and the extent of abuse and shite found in the media and social media alike, it's going to feel fucking amazing to be let off. I reckon a commemorative shirt and a bus parade are the least we could do to mark it.

City need to go full Paddy Power and take the absolute piss. 115 special edition merchandise. Claim it's celebrating an anniversary when it clearly isn't. Khaldoon and Pep sat next to Lord Pannick wearing the shirt and smoking cigars.
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All down to the ground with industrial strength pyrotechnics, blue fares and smokies, Lord Pannick & Khaldoon face masks.

Horns baring down Deansgate.

Make it like a title win !!
 
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