City launch legal action against the Premier League | Club & PL reach settlement | Proceedings dropped (p1147)

jrb said:
I don’t think so.

However Cliff warns that it is "remarkable that the Premier League is now seeking to involve the member clubs in a process to amend the APT rules at a time when it does not even know the status of those rules".

He added: "We will be writing separately about this to the Premier League but in the meantime, given the findings in the award, this is the time for careful reflection and consideration by all clubs, and not for a knee-jerk reaction.

"Such an unwise course would be likely to lead to further legal proceedings with further legal costs. It is critical for member clubs to feel that they can have trust in their regulator."

Cliff's letter will also increase speculation that City may take further legal action to claim compensation for any losses they argue they have suffered as a result of the rules.

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Man City accuse Premier League of 'misleading' clubs over tribunal verdict

Manchester City accuse the Premier League of being "misleading" over the verdict in its landmark legal case on rules over commercial deals.
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I think this is a clear indication that City have no intention of letting any of this fizzle out. City have been shown to be right to have taken the action they did and no spin by the PL is going to be allowed to mask that fact. The sentence you have put in bold print is a clear warning to clubs that they had better not go along with some face saving, botched balls up by the PL to enact pretty much the same regulations again so that PL executives can stay in place and Arsenal officials won't cry. We want damages for lost revenue and we want the regulations to be lawful and fair. City won, the PL lost (heavily), they're rattled and they should be, and they are not fit to run football. I have to disagree with Stefan that this case was like the Leicester case and that City won because of the wording of the regulations. This time the regulations have to be right or there'll be real trouble.
 
johnny crossan said:
silly remarks don't help intelligent debate.
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It was a serious remark. Some of the guys attacking slbn need their heads checking, or to go back to the lfc and utd forums, I didn't know which tbh, but I certainly would have thought they would know his history on here during these cases...

When the only voice City fans could hear was the media, slbn provided some clarity (as well as a few others tbf). When the only thing on talksport that City fans could here was how guilty we were slbn provided a balanced pov.

This load of twats now attacking him for seemingly being wrong, shill, a patsy, mealy mouthed... what have they done? Day back and fine fuck all. Except jealously moan at someone who just knows more than them. That's it, just childish jealousy.
 
In terms of what City could be going after in damages there's potentially the two mentioned deals from this year, are there others that have been blocked or forced to be reduced since the illegal rules were introduced in 2021?
 
Does this explain why all the Rules are void?

The judgment says the Rules and the Amended Rules are "in breach of sections 2 and 18 of the Competition Act 1998"

Section 2 of the Act:

Agreements etc. preventing, restricting or distorting competition.​

(1)Subject to section 3, agreements between undertakings, decisions by associations of undertakings or concerted practices which—
(a)may affect trade within the United Kingdom, and
(b)have as their object or effect the prevention, restriction or distortion of competition within the United Kingdom,
are prohibited unless they are exempt in accordance with the provisions of this Part.

(2)Subsection (1) applies, in particular, to agreements, decisions or practices which—
(a)directly or indirectly fix purchase or selling prices or any other trading conditions;
(b)limit or control production, markets, technical development or investment;
(c)share markets or sources of supply;
(d)apply dissimilar conditions to equivalent transactions with other trading parties, thereby placing them at a competitive disadvantage;
(e)make the conclusion of contracts subject to acceptance by the other parties of supplementary obligations which, by their nature or according to commercial usage, have no connection with the subject of such contracts.

(3)Subsection (1) applies only if the agreement, decision or practice is, or is intended to be, implemented in the United Kingdom.

(4)Any agreement or decision which is prohibited by subsection (1) is void.


So - City have shown that the Rules offend subsection 1 so the agreement is unlawful and prohibited (not just individual rules) and (subsection 4) if the agreement is prohibited it is void (the whole agreement - or the "decisions by associations of undertakings" if the Rules do not constitute an agreement).

The section means that anyone can take action against an "association" and argue that it's a competition-stopping cartel. In this case, one member of the association has done it!

Section 18 prohibits abuse of a dominant position.
 
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paulchapo said:
Yes like the scousers and rags the majority are thick mouthy scumbags. I have no love for them either. They are however just as powerless as ourselves on how their club is run.
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Two cheeks of the same arse as often been used to refer to the rags & scousers, On the face of of it 3 cheeks of the same arse doesn't really have any meaning. But as all 3 are Yank owned that's the nationality to master having 3 arse cheeks.
 
MCFC1993 said:


I mean, what a reach that is. Chief football correspondent. Not even sure I should give any attention to the clown.

Basically shits on every fan of the club, basically saying City could disappear and nobody would give a fuck. Talk about protecting the game for the fans whilst clearly forgetting about the fans of this club.

A really pathetic piece.
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Just wondering how exactly the Premier League would be better without its best team ?
 
blueste41 said:
Boost their expenditure not income or certainly not income that counts toward PSR, I think it's important to note. It's important because we also increase our expenditure via equity investment, again it can't be considered in respect of PSR.
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Absolutely - silly mistake. My apologies.
 
slbsn said:
First of all we are a key member of this PL so the City's desire for change is to be considered against that backdrop. Second, the "enemies" in the room haven't changed - they will be the parties voting on new rules. Third it is clear the tree is standing on PSR, FMV and APT (of some sort). There is simply no basis to think the clubs will agree no regulation and nor would we want that. We are at the top table.

So we are fighting around the edges by definition and assisted by law which is inherently uncertain on complex and evolving areas of sport and competition law and the interaction. Even if the PL no longer existed, do you really think the Super League teams would not largely replicate the UEFA and or the PL regime on financial restrictions? Of course they would. City most likely want a wholesale change of the leadership of the PL - that is understandable given the allegations made against them but we are still part of this family and all successes in cases like this have to be contextualised in the sense that we need the PL to succeed for our own success.
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Totally agree
 
MCFC1993 said:


I mean, what a reach that is. Chief football correspondent. Not even sure I should give any attention to the clown.

Basically shits on every fan of the club, basically saying City could disappear and nobody would give a fuck. Talk about protecting the game for the fans whilst clearly forgetting about the fans of this club.

A really pathetic piece.
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And basically ignoring the fact that the premier league introduced rules aimed at limiting city's growth which breaks competition law. YCNMIU
 
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MCFC1993 said:


I mean, what a reach that is. Chief football correspondent. Not even sure I should give any attention to the clown.

Basically shits on every fan of the club, basically saying City could disappear and nobody would give a fuck. Talk about protecting the game for the fans whilst clearly forgetting about the fans of this club.

A really pathetic piece.
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Who gives a flying fuck what that wanker thinks. Who reads the i - they offer it free on flights and I always turn it down. A know-nothing rag.
 
Claytop said:
This letter from Simon Cliff says we think that all the APT rules since 2021 should be void, that seems quite a big change from what we all assumed?
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Not really, the club statement said as much.
 
MCFC1993 said:


I mean, what a reach that is. Chief football correspondent. Not even sure I should give any attention to the clown.

Basically shits on every fan of the club, basically saying City could disappear and nobody would give a fuck. Talk about protecting the game for the fans whilst clearly forgetting about the fans of this club.

A really pathetic piece.
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That’s the type of response from someone who knows they are beaten.
Why don’t you leave the prem league city and give Liverpool, Arsenal and Utd a chance? Is what he is really saying
 
MCFC1993 said:


I mean, what a reach that is. Chief football correspondent. Not even sure I should give any attention to the clown.

Basically shits on every fan of the club, basically saying City could disappear and nobody would give a fuck. Talk about protecting the game for the fans whilst clearly forgetting about the fans of this club.

A really pathetic piece.
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Understandable that his friends call him cunty.
 
OntarioBlue said:
Just wondering how exactly the Premier League would be better without its best team ?
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fucking ironic it was infact city who bailed pl from super cup and this fuck comes out this shit . Blows my mind that someone commissioned this piece of shit
 
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