Middle East Conflict

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Well kept - if you mean operated on without anaesthesia or malnourished / emaciated or denied daylight, raped and tortured then yes they are being well kept. Aid is going in to the area, more than is required but guess where it ends up. When you watch scenes from the hospitals of all the men filming and screaming, they don’t look under fed do they. I wonder why?

It's a tried and tested formula. Treat people as second class citizens in an effectively apartheid state; herd them into ghettos with limited food, water and medicine; finally exterminate them.

 

[Bigga]

It's a tried and tested formula. Treat people as second class citizens in an effectively apartheid state; herd them into ghettos with limited food, water and medicine; finally exterminate them.

Or they fight back.

 

[Fordyboy46]

If only Israel could wipe out all the terrorist groups it would be a fine thing, Hamas need the worst things possible to happen to them for October 7th 2023. Unfortunately too many innocent lives are being lost with the indiscriminate bombings in Gaza, such a terrible situation in the middle east

 

[Two Gun Bob]

Or they fight back.

October the 7th was fighting? And here was the whole of the civilised world thinking it a massacre. Deluded or what?

 

[cucumberman]

Said it as it is

 

[The blue phantom]

October the 7th was fighting? And here was the whole of the civilised world thinking it a massacre. Deluded or what?

Lock folk up in an open air prison for no reason and shit like that will happen.

 

[The Fat el Hombre]

I see israel has murdered another journalist. A sniper shot, so yet another journalist purposely targeted, as israel seek to cover up their genocide and war crimes:



Even fox news are reporting on this now, bit late like now like seen as more journalists have been murdered than in any other conflict

 

[The Fat el Hombre]

Well kept - if you mean operated on without anaesthesia or malnourished / emaciated or denied daylight, raped and tortured then yes they are being well kept. Aid is going in to the area, more than is required but guess where it ends up. When you watch scenes from the hospitals of all the men filming and screaming, they don’t look under fed do they. I wonder why?

Videos of Israeli hostages being released by Palestinians, shaking hands, hugs, thumbs ups and high fives:







Let's not forget that Noa Argamani actually came out to defend the way Hamas treated her (when israel once again made up a load of bullshit and lies about how she was beaten, when she wasn't):



Israel rapes and tortures Palestinian prisoners. There is video evidence of this, very easy to view

 

[Manc Born & Bred]

It's a tried and tested formula. Treat people as second class citizens in an effectively apartheid state; herd them into ghettos with limited food, water and medicine; finally exterminate them.

Israel isn't an apartheid state though and as for treating its citizens as second class that is exactly what Hamas is doing. And there has only been one race that the word extermination has ever been used for and that is the Jews.

 

[Manc Born & Bred]

Videos of Israeli hostages being released by Palestinians, shaking hands, hugs, thumbs ups and high fives:







Let's not forget that Noa Argamani actually came out to defend the way Hamas treated her (when israel once again made up a load of bullshit and lies about how she was beaten, when she wasn't):



Israel rapes and tortures Palestinian prisoners. There is video evidence of this, very easy to view

We can all find articles to suit

Starved, without air or water: Hostages were murdered just hours before rescue, families told

Families reveal hostages were starved and suffocated before being executed hours before rescue, fueling calls for an investigation.

www.jpost.com

https://www.israelhayom.com/2024/09/02/hamas-starved-hostage-eden-yerushalmi-to-79-pounds/

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/09/20/world/video/israeli-hostage-killed-sisters-interview-digvid

https://www.timesofisrael.com/rescued-hostages-said-suffering-from-malnutrition-leaning-on-each-other-for-support/

Rescued Israeli hostages were starved, beaten ‘almost every day’ in Hamas captivity: ‘Beyond comprehension’

Noa Argamani, 26, Almog Meir Jan, 22, Andrey Kozlov and Shlomi Ziv, 41, suffered the horrific abuse after they were all kidnapped from the Supernova desert rave during the Oct. 7 Hamas terror attac…

nypost.com

'No muscles left, only loose skin': Hostages starved in Hamas captivity, doctor says

"They ate a tenth of what they are supposed to eat," the expert said, asking that bystanders do not say that the rescued individuals "look fine."

www.jpost.com

 

[Bigga]

October the 7th was fighting? And here was the whole of the civilised world thinking it a massacre. Deluded or what?

Uh huh.

You, clearly, don't know about Nat Turner or people more recognisable in el-Hajj Malik el-Shabazz or a global favourite in Nelson Mandela. Just to name a smidgen in history that reacted to overt and covert oppression.

They all 'snapped' and had enough of a system that forced them towards subversion or an attempt at it.

Your opinion of what created "Oct 7" is quite a secluded one and it takes into account nothing that provoked the reaction, namely decades of abuse.

You are a '1992'; you know, when no football existed before...

Cool beans.

 

[Bigga]

Said it as it is

Inspiring.

I wonder if @Eds and @Two Gun Bob have this on 'ignore'??

 

[Bigga]

Videos of Israeli hostages being released by Palestinians, shaking hands, hugs, thumbs ups and high fives:







Let's not forget that Noa Argamani actually came out to defend the way Hamas treated her (when israel once again made up a load of bullshit and lies about how she was beaten, when she wasn't):



Israel rapes and tortures Palestinian prisoners. There is video evidence of this, very easy to view

You know in the absolute pile of US/ IDF/ Netanyahu utter bullshit, I forgot about this.

Thanks for the reminder.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Israel isn't an apartheid state though and as for treating its citizens as second class that is exactly what Hamas is doing. And there has only been one race that the word extermination has ever been used for and that is the Jews.

Lol. Tying yourself up in knots. Hamas has no citizens as it isn't a state, although it's election to govern one was perhaps a bit of a 'canary in the coal mine' for Israel. Israel do however separate, and set apart people based on racial or ethnic criteria which is apartheid - if we agree that Jews are a race rather than a religious group ( your assertion not mine).
I think history shows there have been quite a few attempts to behave like this and exterminate peoples around the world. Admittedly, Jewish people have endured more than most.
I personally think both the Israelis and the Arab muslim people need to look for ways to diffuse the hatred which sustains groups like hamas and Hezbollah, as well as the genocidal tendancies of the Israeli state. One way may be for them all to concentrate more on the people element than their identity as religious groups, as history is littered with the persecution and 'othering' of people according to their choice of sky fairy.

 

[ChicagoBlue]

I see we have reached the “steady diet of propaganda videos” stage of the discussion.

Musk & X win.

 

[The blue phantom]

Amazing when your own leaders have called it Apartheid.

15 Former Israeli Leaders Call it Apartheid

Free Content about Palestine

palestine.beehiiv.com

 

[Manc Born & Bred]

Lol. Tying yourself up in knots. Hamas has no citizens as it isn't a state, although it's election to govern one was perhaps a bit of a 'canary in the coal mine' for Israel. Israel do however separate, and set apart people based on racial or ethnic criteria which is apartheid - if we agree that Jews are a race rather than a religious group ( your assertion not mine).
I think history shows there have been quite a few attempts to behave like this and exterminate peoples around the world. Admittedly, Jewish people have endured more than most.
I personally think both the Israelis and the Arab muslim people need to look for ways to diffuse the hatred which sustains groups like hamas and Hezbollah, as well as the genocidal tendancies of the Israeli state. One way may be for them all to concentrate more on the people element than their identity as religious groups, as history is littered with the persecution and 'othering' of people according to their choice of sky fairy.

No knots here. Hamas was elected to govern the people of Gaza in 2007 but you are correct Hamas isn't a state it's a terrorist organisation.

 

[The blue phantom]

I see we have reached the “steady diet of propaganda videos” stage of the discussion.

Musk & X win.

Yep. I mean posting videos of the Hostages own words which were at odds with their Goverment regarding their time in capture is never a good idea.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

I see we have reached the “steady diet of propaganda videos” stage of the discussion.

Musk & X win.

As a rabid trumper I suppose musk is vehemently pro IDF and as he manipulates X then that will be too? Probably best ignored or at least seen in that context.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

Yep. I mean posting videos of the Hostages own words which were at odds with their Goverment regarding their time in capture is never a good idea.

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Isn’t that how the Israeli government like it? Always first to get their story out, always first to criticise any criticism, their PR dept must be enormous.

During this period many have learnt so much about how Israel operates in the communication and PR space. Personally, I was unaware that they used huge influence by the way of AIPAC, and similar in the UK.