President Trump

He seems to be doing ok and the polls not changing much - still seems to be in with a good chance of being potus again. What does worry me if this happens is his history of fairly blinkered support for the Israeli govt. At present they need reined in or at least made to pause for thought so trump will be far from ideal.
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
He seems to be doing ok and the polls not changing much - still seems to be in with a good chance of being potus again. What does worry me if this happens is his history of fairly blinkered support for the Israeli govt. At present they need reined in or at least made to pause for thought so trump will be far from ideal.
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The bit about him trying to turn the US into a dictatorship, leaving NATO, abandoning Ukraine, leaving China to invade Taiwan, introducing isolationist trade policies, abandoning any efforts to combat climate change and generally being a dangerous lunatic in charge of the world’s biggest nuclear arsenal doesn’t worry you that much then?
 
west didsblue said:
The bit about him trying to turn the US into a dictatorship, leaving NATO, abandoning Ukraine, leaving China to invade Taiwan, introducing isolationist trade policies, abandoning any efforts to combat climate change and generally being a dangerous lunatic in charge of the world’s biggest nuclear arsenal doesn’t worry you that much then?
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No, I'm good with all that and the pussy grabbing.
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
He seems to be doing ok and the polls not changing much - still seems to be in with a good chance of being potus again. What does worry me if this happens is his history of fairly blinkered support for the Israeli govt. At present they need reined in or at least made to pause for thought so trump will be far from ideal.
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That’s all that worries you? Irrespective of politics the man is clinically insane. And whatever mental decline he’s subject to is going to continue and most likely accelerate over the next four years and continue to affect his decision making. It’s a truly frightening prospect all round, not just in relation to Israel.

It’s absolutely insane that he’s even in with a chance.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
That’s all that worries you? Irrespective of politics the man is clinically insane. And whatever mental decline he’s subject to is going to continue and most likely accelerate over the next four years and continue to affect his decision making. It’s a truly frightening prospect all round, not just in relation to Israel.

It’s absolutely insane that he’s even in with a chance.
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An even more frightening thought is that that certain members of the GOP are fully aware, and are counting on his mental decline. If he wins, the 25th Amendment will be invoked soon after leaving Vance in charge, and some other such extreme right wing knuckle dragger will be appointed VP.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
That’s all that worries you? Irrespective of politics the man is clinically insane. And whatever mental decline he’s subject to is going to continue and most likely accelerate over the next four years and continue to affect his decision making. It’s a truly frightening prospect all round, not just in relation to Israel.

It’s absolutely insane that he’s even in with a chance.
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Unlike a lot of you I'm not a US citizen/ voter, so not going to import their silliness into my own concerns. I think my most immediate threat of nuclear annihilation comes from the middle east going tits up and trump I think will be worse in this respect than biden /kamala.
I don't actually see trump as the problem tbh, more an symptom of the silliness of America and its child like politics.
 
A bloke that knows he can say what he likes, and there isn't a person within his campaign or supporter base that won't nod their head and blindly agree with him.

 
FogBlueInSanFran said:
Every single one of those issues has been around with modifications my whole life, and my parents' lives. I'm American so my context is narrow, but . . .

Nuclear threat? We used to do "duck and cover" drills in school in the 70s.

Climate/pollution? Try the air in LA in the 1970s.

Poverty? The poverty rate in the US is near an all-time low.

Demographics? Has opportunity expanded or contracted for non-whites in the US over time? For women? For LGTBQ people?

Lack of factual science? Do we know more or less about the world and the universe than we did? Church attendance in the US is near an all-time low.

The data doesn't support the hand-wringing, writ large. Everyone has their own experiences and circumstances, and there's always plenty to be worried about, and I am frightened by Trump and MAGA, but every generation of old people have thought things were worse than 50 years ago since the 1800s. They've nearly always been wrong.
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The UK is an outlier though in a number of areas compared to many of its developed western peers. Our politicians and population might not look as mental as yours but between us we've f****d up our country big style. Social equality gaps have widened at a rate that simply hasn't happened with most of our peer countries.

Studies show satisfaction with your lot isn't a function of how much you've got but how much control you believe you have in improving your lot. In the UK that level of belief that with hard work you'll have a fair crack of the whip to make something of yourself has fallen off a cliff with younger folk. Their belief in this is now significantly lower than pretty much every other developed nation. They didn't wake up one morning and lick these attitudes off a stone, their elders created the problems by doing things like completely f*****g up our housing market.

A lot of older people in this country who say I'm glad I'm not a youngster aren't shouting at clouds about the good old days, they're either explicitly or tacitly acknowledgeling that through shit decisions we've made in relation to our politicians we've made it harder for their kids than they ever had it.
 
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