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Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
This is the problem though. You'll only hear those 4-5 segments, which will doubtless be as carefully curated is the segments from Kamala's 60 mins and Fox interviews which all seem to be taken from a certain perspective.
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There is no problem from my end. Trump and Rogan aren’t trustworthy and it might as well be a paid party political broadcast.
 
Phil1 said:
There is no problem from my end. Trump and Rogan aren’t trustworthy and it might as well be a paid party political broadcast.
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Joe Rogan is to rational, fact-based discourse as Liz Truss is to sound economic policy:

They have absolutely no connection to either.
 
jma said:
I don’t really post in here, mostly because I find American politics and the rhetoric it produces quite depressing.

You can see that on just the last few pages here with it dominated by a poster (dax) who has a long history, outside of his pro-trump posts, of being an absolute lunatic and others making accusations of being a nonce (not really the place you want to be in a serious discussion).

However, I thought I would comment anyway, just to point out that your crime figures argument is seriously poor, the attempt to bolster it with migration figures totally irrelevant and the “that’s too lon to read” response seriously embarrassing for someone talking of ‘debating’. Poor.
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Not really. If issues are current, having over 500,000 immigrants is going to be a strain on solving the issues that exist.
 
Everybody has been looking at party registration with early/mail-in voting and I think that has meant overlooking something quite interesting.

36 million early ballots in so far:
53% women
45% men
2% unknown/no data

That’s an 8 point margin for women voters.

Women do normally outvote men but the margin tends to be more like 4-6 points. And this is a significant sample size. 36 million is something like 20% of the total expected vote tally.

Women have always broken Democrat but that phenomena has really strengthened since Roe v Wade was overturned.

What’s more, this gap is even bigger in most of the swing states:
Georgia: Women +12
Michigan: Women +14
Pennsylvania: Women +13
Wisconsin: Women +10
North Carolina: Women +9
Arizona: Women +4

Some of those margins are crazy and that should be a worrying set of stats for Republicans.
 
SkyBlueFlux said:
Everybody has been looking at party registration with early/mail-in voting and I think that has meant overlooking something quite interesting.

36 million early ballots in so far:
53% women
45% men
2% unknown/no data

That’s an 8 point margin for women voters.

Women do normally outvote men but the margin tends to be more like 4-6 points. And this is a significant sample size. 36 million is something like 20% of the total expected vote tally.

Women have always broken Democrat but that phenomena has really strengthened since Roe v Wade was overturned.

What’s more, this gap is even bigger in most of the swing states:
Georgia: Women +12
Michigan: Women +14
Pennsylvania: Women +13
Wisconsin: Women +10
North Carolina: Women +9
Arizona: Women +4

Some of those margins are crazy and that should be a worrying set of stats for Republicans.
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I think young black men voting trump is a myth too and could deliver a surprise - certainly since Kamal unveiled the forgivable 20k startup loans and other incentives to vote democrat.
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
I think young black men voting trump is a myth too and could deliver a surprise - certainly since Kamal unveiled the forgivable 20k startup loans and other incentives to vote democrat.
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Yes, I think the Republican's pretty blatant voter suppression tactics in black and ethnic minority areas is enough to tell you they don't have a lot of faith in black men turning out in their favour.

Perhaps the exception for ethnic minorities would be Hispanic men in Florida. Which I've never quite got my head round, but they do seem to love Trump.
 
SkyBlueFlux said:
Yes, I think the Republican's pretty blatant voter suppression tactics in black and ethnic minority areas is enough to tell you they don't have a lot of faith in black men turning out in their favour.

Perhaps the exception for ethnic minorities would be Hispanic men in Florida. Which I've never quite got my head round, but they do seem to love Trump.
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That includes immigrants who from places like Cuba and Venezuela, who became naturalised citizens and their descendents.

Easily won over by their hatred of extreme Marxism they have been brainwashed into believing the Democrats support.
 
SWP's back said:
It’s also the splits between the parties and turnout comparisons. It looks like it’s going to be higher than 2020 and a high turnout makes it almost impossible for Trump.
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Hence why the Republicans are (and yesterday, successfully, via the ludicrous 5th circuit court ruling in the Mississippi case) challenging the legitimacy of early and mail-in voting.
 

GOP lawsuits about an obscure immigration database may set up election challenges​


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As former President Donald Trump and his allies spread baseless conspiracy theories about Democrats bringing in noncitizens to vote illegally, GOP state officials are escalating last-minute demands on the Biden administration to check the citizenship of voters on their state rolls.

In recent days, Florida, Texas and Ohio have each sued the U.S. Department of Homeland Security over the issue. They argue a longstanding data sharing program, which the federal government has offered states over the last dozen years for this purpose, is insufficient.

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But with Election Day around the corner, the states' demands are coming far too late to be considered credible, according to election law experts and voting officials.

Instead, the lawsuits are "in service of a fraudulent narrative — which is the notion that widespread numbers of noncitizens are intentionally registering and voting — which is patent garbage," said Justin Levitt, a constitutional law professor at Loyola Law School who also served as an adviser on voting rights issues for the Biden administration.

 
SebastianBlue said:

GOP lawsuits about an obscure immigration database may set up election challenges​


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As former President Donald Trump and his allies spread baseless conspiracy theories about Democrats bringing in noncitizens to vote illegally, GOP state officials are escalating last-minute demands on the Biden administration to check the citizenship of voters on their state rolls.

In recent days, Florida, Texas and Ohio have each sued the U.S. Department of Homeland Security over the issue. They argue a longstanding data sharing program, which the federal government has offered states over the last dozen years for this purpose, is insufficient.

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But with Election Day around the corner, the states' demands are coming far too late to be considered credible, according to election law experts and voting officials.

Instead, the lawsuits are "in service of a fraudulent narrative — which is the notion that widespread numbers of noncitizens are intentionally registering and voting — which is patent garbage," said Justin Levitt, a constitutional law professor at Loyola Law School who also served as an adviser on voting rights issues for the Biden administration.

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The fact that the GOP are pulling out all the stops to try and pre-emptively subvert the results of the of the upcoming election tells you just how desperate they are to cheat their way back into power. Fascism is on the rise worldwide and the media are complicit.
 
The segment with the professor of Philosophy at Yale University who has written several books about fascism is essential listening for any “MAGA is not a fascist movement!” people still left reading the thread. He actually highlights how many aspects of MAGA rhetoric, policies, and governmental actions are straight from Nazi Germany. And how refusing to acknowledge that, or even call it what it is, is similar to what happened in the 1920s, when many refused to recognise the danger of the rhetoric and promised policies and actions Hitler and his surrogates were espousing, which helped the Nazis rise to power and commit myriad atrocities.


Fascism, Fear and the Science Behind Horror Films

Host Brooke Gladstone speaks with Jason Stanley, a professor of Philosophy at Yale University and who has written several books on fascism. He first warned about Trump's fascist rhetoric in 2018, and explains why it's more important than ever to call it by its name.

https://one.npr.org/i/1261127421:1261127423
 
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