Benjamin Mendy | Joins Pogon Szczecin (p92)

Keeper! said:
"why would any woman lie"

Money, look at the Mbappe situation now, these guys have an image to protect and rather than go through the grisly details in a courtroom , it's easier to pay someone off however wrongly accused they have been.

If you think this doesn't go on you must be very nieve, there are many evil women out there, just like there are men.

And another point the man/woman accused of rape should be given immunity like the accusers until guilty.
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You quite conspicuously didn't answer her question.
 
SWPISHOME said:
Sorry Kaz but I don't agree with "why would a woman lie" and "extremely rare", Unfortunately there's women out there that do make this disgusting allegations against men.

Those woman who make these false allegations should get a seriously long time in prison, It's a kick in the teeth to victims of rape and also trying to get men falsely imprisoned.

On the flip side of that in my opinion we also have men who do rape women and not enough substantial evidence to get then convicted as the majority of times it's one word against another.

If only we lived in a world without any of this disgusting behaviour going on.
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I said rare a women gets charged with lying in court, seems some men on here want every woman who loses their case to be done for falsely accusing the man , even though we know that it is hard to get convictions
 
thismeansfour said:
Being a shagger isn't illegal. Just ask our captain. Women trying to take advantage of footballers (not for the first time) is the real (possible) crime here. He has been wronged. He got his career and wages taken away, wrongly. We provided no support and treated him as guilty until proven otherwise. He is clearly right and that is why he has been paid out. Good luck charging him, there is a reason why we won't do it. Because it is fucking stupid.
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Alright Mendy calm down.

I don’t agree with your stance. Bringing Walker into does not strengthen the argument. He hasn’t be locked up as far as i am aware nor did he not perform his contractual duties.

Defending mendys behaviour is not a good look.

On a purely monetary level he is entitled to be paid wages following his non conviction.

I am merely stating that city have also been wronged financially due to the situation he brought about in some respects.
 
Keeper! said:
"why would any woman lie"

Money, look at the Mbappe situation now, these guys have an image to protect and rather than go through the grisly details in a courtroom , it's easier to pay someone off however wrongly accused they have been.

If you think this doesn't go on you must be very nieve, there are many evil women out there, just like there are men.

And another point the man/woman accused of rape should be given immunity like the accusers until guilty.
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Why would any of these women actually go to the police, if their motive was a pay off? And why go further and go to court, which is going to be a hugely unpleasant experience, with people who don't know you accusing you of lying, and the risk of your name coming out on social media?

Women being taken to court for lying about being raped, are much rarer than convictions for rapists. The reason is that any obvious lies would likely come out during an investigation. By the time you get to court, the police and CPS are aware of both sides' stories, know who they believe, and have decided there's a good chance that they can convince a jury.
 
bluenova said:
Why would any of these women actually go to the police, if their motive was a pay off? And why go further and go to court, which is going to be a hugely unpleasant experience, with people who don't know you accusing you of lying, and the risk of your name coming out on social media?

Women being taken to court for lying about being raped, are much rarer than convictions for rapists. The reason is that any obvious lies would likely come out during an investigation. By the time you get to court, the police and CPS are aware of both sides' stories, know who they believe, and have decided there's a good chance that they can convince a jury.
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Get a guilty verdict , then after go after his cash or the worst, sell their story.

I am not taking this further , rape is rightly a very emotive subject but there are some very evil people of both sexes who use it to make false accusations.
 
bluenova said:
Why would any of these women actually go to the police, if their motive was a pay off? And why go further and go to court, which is going to be a hugely unpleasant experience, with people who don't know you accusing you of lying, and the risk of your name coming out on social media?

Women being taken to court for lying about being raped, are much rarer than convictions for rapists. The reason is that any obvious lies would likely come out during an investigation. By the time you get to court, the police and CPS are aware of both sides' stories, know who they believe, and have decided there's a good chance that they can convince a jury.
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Wasn't there a case last year that was all over the news Elanor Williams I think her name was lying about being raped along with other things, I can't remember the whole story but it was going on for a while.

Why on earth she done it I don't know, She ended up getting 8 years or something along those lines.

I'm not for a single second saying "all women" lie about this crime because its certainly not the case as I've stated in my previous posts, For some reason like the woman above I've mentioned lie about it.
 
SWPISHOME said:
Wasn't there a case last year that was all over the news Elanor Williams I think her name was lying about being raped along with other things, I can't remember the whole story but it was going on for a while.

Why on earth she done it I don't know, She ended up getting 8 years or something along those lines.

I'm not for a single second saying "all women" lie about this crime because its certainly not the case as I've stated in my previous posts, For some reason like the woman above I've mentioned lie about it.
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There was, and I believe the only person who ended up being tried was her.

The fact that we remember her story, and not many of the thousands of rape cases that go to court each year, suggests her case is the unusual one. Even though the police took her claims seriously, spent a lot of time investigating, and arrested multiple people, yet still didn't take anyone to court, apart from her, suggests that actual rapes and sexual assaults are a much, much bigger issue, than the tiny number of false accusations.
 
Keeper! said:
Get a guilty verdict , then after go after his cash or the worst, sell their story.

I am not taking this further , rape is rightly a very emotive subject but there are some very evil people of both sexes who use it to make false accusations.
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That's a ridiculous post.

You can't get an out of court settlement on criminal cases like rape. If there is evidence to prosecute a rape accusation then it goes to court. You can't settle that and call it quits.

There are some people who do lie about this sort of thing yes. But there are thousands more who quite probably have been raped but fail to get a conviction because, without physical evidence, it becomes one word against another and for the victim it is a quite horrific ordeal so many aren't willing to go through the process.
 
Chris in London said:
Full judgment here for those interested

Also for those interested, Mendy was represented by Nick De Marco KC, who was mentioned a day or wtwo ago in the 'City sue the PL' thread

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At least we didn’t have to pay it all back to him.

Also, the FA’s role in all this seems to have restricted his ability to work not city so can we claim against the Fa? Might aswell make it a hatrick, uefa, premier, and FA. -:)
 
kaz7 said:
So why didnt mendy pay them off ? I agree all should be unnamed till the end of the trial
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Maybe he was innocent and wanted his day in court.
There are some instances where you might consider paying them off to avoid the hassle, rape is not one of them.
It’s one of the horrendous crimes to be accused of and if it were me I’d want my day in court.
I seem to remember one of the women said she woke up to Mendy having sex with her, she claimed she didn’t know him and didn’t think of him that way.
The defence asked her ‘hadn’t you slept with him the month before?’
She admitted she had.
She also admitted that after sleeping with him she’d text her friend saying ‘I’ve just slept with a footballer, what am I like’
So she lied, that doesn’t mean the other women lied too, but maybe it cast doubt among the jury.
I only heard about the one women, maybe the defence proved some of the other women lied too and that’s why he got not guilty.
 
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