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City’s 2017/18 team was amazing playing high octane football putting teams to the sword. That’s the type of football I love to watch. That City team was incredible and far away from the team of today.
 
You've been around long enough to know that beating the rags IS the be all and end all for many of us of a certain age.

I don't care what league / division / competition that City are playing in... beating the rags has always been the most important thing in football. Anything else is just a bonus

A bit flimsy and pathetic imho, and I fucking hate the club, fake supporters , media etc.

But a win against them does not define City as a club, so not of any lasting value.

Tribal bragging rights only.
 
The first derby in a long time I'm actually dreading. We are so easy to play against at the moment I'd back any side to score at least once against us. Palace two, Feyenoord three, Spurs four, Juventus two. All pretty average sides in my opinion yet three of them beat us and if Palace had taken their chances so would they. On the other side of the coin we are struggling for goals ourselves.
Now the rags are a bang average side but Fernandez is better than anyone in our midfield atm given current form. Their pace on the counter attack will get behind us time after time. As for us every single player is underperforming and some are unrecognisable as the players that won everything. Walker, Gvardiol, Ederson, Gundogan have been atrocious. Bernardo is a shadow of his former self and Kev too. Foden is always ill with something or other, he's like a fucking deprived malnourished kid from Victorian England, he'll pick up rickets next.
If there's one game that could galvanise the whole club it's this one. Sadly I fear we'll all be moaning about the same old failings and licking our wounds again at the end.
Rickets !!....like it ;)
 
New manager bounce for them means this will be tough. Also, Amorim showed he has Guardiola's number in the CL recently when his team owned us.

Anyone at this moment in time would take Hojlund over Haaland, Martinez over Dias, Fernandes over KdB......and yes, Amorim over Guardiola.

Rashford will run riot against our defence and we have to hope they don't start Antony as he'll destroy us. Both would walk into our starting 11 right now.

Take 1-1 right now and move on.
I know things are bad at the moment, but fu*k me were not that bad:-)
 
New manager bounce for them means this will be tough. Also, Amorim showed he has Guardiola's number in the CL recently when his team owned us.

Anyone at this moment in time would take Hojlund over Haaland, Martinez over Dias, Fernandes over KdB......and yes, Amorim over Guardiola.

Rashford will run riot against our defence and we have to hope they don't start Antony as he'll destroy us. Both would walk into our starting 11 right now.

Take 1-1 right now and move on.
Whooooosh
 
New manager bounce for them means this will be tough. Also, Amorim showed he has Guardiola's number in the CL recently when his team owned us.

Anyone at this moment in time would take Hojlund over Haaland, Martinez over Dias, Fernandes over KdB......and yes, Amorim over Guardiola.

Rashford will run riot against our defence and we have to hope they don't start Antony as he'll destroy us. Both would walk into our starting 11 right now.

Take 1-1 right now and move on.

Your second paragraph is absolutely fucking staggering !

Stop taking whatever now.
 
New manager bounce for them means this will be tough. Also, Amorim showed he has Guardiola's number in the CL recently when his team owned us.

Anyone at this moment in time would take Hojlund over Haaland, Martinez over Dias, Fernandes over KdB......and yes, Amorim over Guardiola.

Rashford will run riot against our defence and we have to hope they don't start Antony as he'll destroy us. Both would walk into our starting 11 right now.

Take 1-1 right now and move on.
I thought you were being serious until I got to this part.
 
If the game on Sunday was a boxing bout I'd compare it to Audley Harrison vs Julius Francis.
Us being Audley at the moment.
Scared to death to land anything but a bit too much class for utd/Julius
 
Have you noted when the ball on the halfway line is played either over the defenders or through the defenders just how far they have to run helplessly to stop the attack. We are wide open and so I don’t see how we are saving energy allowing teams to catch us out when we are often inside the other teams half. I know it’s to try and suppress the other teams attacking ability, but it’s not working..

We are still way too slow.

OK, how can we be non-stagnant now with the injuries we have? What should we do differently?
 
City’s 2017/18 team was amazing playing high octane football putting teams to the sword. That’s the type of football I love to watch. That City team was incredible and far away from the team of today.
To be fair to pep I think that’s what he had planned for this season with Savinho and Doku as the “Sterling and sane” with pace on the wings in behind the fullbacks. However the injury to Rodri and now others has completely thrown that out of the window.
 
To be fair to pep I think that’s what he had planned for this season with Savinho and Doku as the “Sterling and sane” with pace on the wings in behind the fullbacks. However the injury to Rodri and now others has completely thrown that out of the window.
And Savinho & Doku not being as good as Sterling or Sane
 
Most successful clubs in Europe tend to change coaches on a regular basis to avoid teams / tactics getting stale.

Although we've been unbelievably successful over Pep's tenure, it's been obvious to me that our squad and tactics have been getting stale over the past two years.

In my opinion, last season's title win was one of the greatest team achievements in the modern era.
All clubs in Europe tend to change coaches on a regular basis, not just the successful ones.

While the likes of Bayern change their coach a lot yet more of the than not consistently win things, You can look at the same way of running things staggered from the top level all the way down the EFL pyramid from successful teams to unsuccessful teams.

Madrid change their coach a lot and win a lot of trophies. But when you really look at what they’ve won, they haven’t won back-to-back La Liga titles for 17 years and before that not for 19 years.

While Brighton change their coach a lot and keep improving year-after-year and a deemed a success; Spurs also change coaches on a regular basis, even bringing in top level coaches, and continue to win nowt and are deemed a failure.

The likes of West Brom, Norwich and Watford change their coach all the time and are up and down the to the Championship like a tart’s knickers.

Pep deserves to be given time to turn this around, and I’m not talking about the next month, I mean the next few transfer windows. Build something new. There isn’t anyone out there I’d rather have as our coach.
 
our squad and tactics have been getting stale over the past two years.

The past two years: that's the period since December 2022. In that period we played the best football under Pep, humiliating Real, Bayern, Arsenal, Liverpool, beating them by 3-4 goals, going 26 games unbeaten in Europe, a record in the entire history of the European club competitions, and winning a record 4 in a row title, despite players like KDB and Haaland missing months of football.

If that's getting stale, I want more of it.

Other clubs change managers because they don't have Pep. We have Pep, we won’t change him. It's that simple.
 
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