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Extreme physical and mental fatigue.. fucking cop out excuse


I amazed how many of our fans think you can be at the top of your game for over 5 seasons and not get to the point of physical and mental fatigue.

You can clearly see the players are knackered with physically and mentally. I think Pep is struggling to.
 
It's not over because of just over two months of bad results.

We've had a near decade of dominance. Don't lose your head because of a terrible two months.
Fair enough. But I have to say it just doesn't seem likely that he turns this around. Partly because he's got a huge job on his hands and he's human and getting older.
 
We've had an entirely predictable pattern of play for at least 3 seasons but we've been very good at overcoming attempts to thwart it.
Teams have progressively gotten better at playing against us and we haven't changed anywhere near enough. Combine that with key players reaching their twighlight years and not adequately replacing some valuable outgoing transfers and we are seeing the results speak for themselves.

1 win in 11 is not a blip.

1 win in 11 tells you that we aren't the team we thought we were. We are in decline. It happens. Our biggest danger is starting to think our next win will be the turning point to put us back on track and everything will be OK again.

It's rebuild time and we have to accept that as part of the cycle of football.

How well we rebuild may depend on the 115 outcome and of Pep's desire for wholesale changes with only a couple of years left on his contract.

For those claiming we dominated the game today, I thought we edged things until the penalty but on reflection we hardly created many chances and our lethargic attacking play was well countered by United who showed more energy in getting back to defend in numbers.

Walker's play acting was embarrassing but Hoijland walked 10 yards to put head to head with Walker so was no angel himself.

Shitting the bed every time we concede a goal is becoming a team habit. Pep is credited for getting inside players heads when things are going well, he has to take some of the criticism for failing to quell panic when things are not going well.

The amount of loose balls we are giving away is a factor too. We're handing possession to teams on a plate, and often it's in breaking positions. That's cost us a number of games already. I suspect it may continue to cost us further.

This isn't about loyalty as fans. It's about recognising what we are witnessing.
 
I remember being 2-0 down in 1999 at Wembley against Gillingham with 5 minutes to go, and if someone had said don't worry mate we will go on and break lots of records, win the domestic quadruple, do the treble and do 100 points I would have laughed at them but we have done it all, don't forget where we were and what we've done.
Reminiscing is nice, but time moves on.
 
I take it you only started watching City in 2008? Stop the drama mate. You obviously weren’t at Lincoln away Bury at home then like the rest of us.
We and you have been spoilt the last 10-15 years with some of the best football best players and best coach in the PL.
Calm down.
I actually don’t understand why you think it relevant to what he says as to when he started watching City Anyway I started watching City in 1964 and I think he’s got a lot of good points
 
I amazed how many of our fans think you can be at the top of your game for over 5 seasons and not get to the point of physical and mental fatigue.

You can clearly see the players are knackered with physically and mentally. I think Pep is struggling to.
Almost as if it's a common thing to happen so it makes you wonder about the recruitment strategy last summer
 
we dont.....we have to limp through to the end of the season

The scousers finished 10th a couple of seasons back......thats where we need to aim to be and then rebuild....

Top 4 aint happening....
Top 6 aint happening

No point in throwing money at it in January....you end up paying over the top for very average players lke Bruno G - believe you me he aint the answer and going for him will be another failing.
When did liverpool finish 10th? Havent finished that low in my lifetime
 
OK let's break it down ???

The first thing, missing because of a ban...Lewis

Who is fully fit... Ederson, Walker, Dias, Gvardiol, Gündogan, Bernardo Silva, Haaland, Nunes
Who is not fully match fit.. De Bruyne, Foden, Doku,

Who should be playing based on form ?
Who is coming off the bench... Grealish, Kovačić, Savinho, Ortega, Stones, Mcatee,

Injury list... Rodri, Bobb, Ake, Akanji,

So on today's viewing, Why are players being allowed to Ghost, Pep's injury list is not the problem looking at the breakdown,

We are not daft and know something is not right ? Peps has to cover up and having to defend his players week after week, Walker is ghosting and so is Haaland, that should not be happening, Foden is a shadow of himself, Bernardo Silva the workhorse of the team is now a carthorse being asked to pull the whole team around

Why can nobody ask the Question ?
 
Fair enough. But I have to say it just doesn't seem likely that he turns this around. Partly because he's got a huge job on his hands and he's human and getting older.

I'd never bet against Pep.

Give him the money to get the players he wants, get Rodri back etc. And we'll be dominant again.
 
I remember being 2-0 down in 1999 at Wembley against Gillingham with 5 minutes to go, and if someone had said don't worry mate we will go on and break lots of records, win the domestic quadruple, do the treble and do 100 points I would have laughed at them but we have done it all, don't forget where we were and what we've done.
But is that a reason why the club have rested on their laurels been remiss in refreshing the squad to maintain the dominance we have had requires going out and getting the best young players to replace the aging ones Seems like now it’s getting the best financial results they forget that those only come out once a year results on the pitch are virtually twice a week
 

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