PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[Colin Bells Boots]

'Have hated them since their fucking mid-week wembley win, and nothing they have done or achieved ( or more like not-achieved ) has changed my opinions of the club or their fans. Entitled and deluded beyond belief."

That's just brilliant' sir.

Every bit of my hatred was encapsulated in that .

Absolute cunts of the highest order.

 

[Asa's left peg]

massive can of worms here. Lets look at the full supply chain for football and see if there are any breaches of Human Rights elsewhere within the chain. House of Lords - full of shite -

Also, if one was really committed to this, would you refuse to play a state owned team in the CL or refuse to take part in a tournament played in a said country? It's a minefield some have not thought through.

 

[Resurrection Joe...]

Whilst you are no doubt correct in identifying the rags, I'm not convinced that they are actually the worst culprits behind the attacks on the club.

I suspect the dippers, gooners and the perennial failures spurs are all more active in their attacks on us.

The rags get money hand over fist courtesy of the millions of braindeads who throw money at them simply because they see them as the club to follow.

The dippers are the same but we already know that from their past antics they seek to be as successful in terms of winning things , hacking and I suspect many more underhand machinations .

The gooners need to try and match our success on the pitch so are desperate to nullify us if possible.

But the most desperate and therefore driven in the cabal are surely fucking spurs with Daniel Levy and their crooked owner Joe Lewis or whoever supposedly owns them.

These are the real driver who will be pushing lackies like Masters imo, because of the need for a higher profile of success and therefore income.

Have hated them since their fucking mid-week wembley win, and nothing they have done or achieved ( or more like not-achieved ) has changed my opinions of the club or their fans. Entitled and deluded beyond belief.

Of course I could be wrong.............

Good work...interesting theory but for my money at the end of the errand the Rags will be 'Fredo'.

 

[Moss Side's Finest]

And. Whilst all this City bashing has been going on and whilst all this 'the middle east is taking over and needs to be stopped' propaganda has been peddled. The Americans have quietly acquired their 10th club in the Premier League, meaning they now control HALF of the clubs in the league, which means they have at least 50% of the votes in any decisions about the future of the league. Add to this the fact that all UK TV coverage of the league is also American owned and you can see how nobody else stands a chance outside of Uncle Sam's own clubs.

I challenge you to go and find the sensationalist headlines and articles about the risk this poses for our great game.... I wouldn't even bother looking if I were you

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

Good work...interesting theory but for my money at the end of the errand the Rags will be 'Fredo'.

Just my theory no doubt influenced by my hatred and contempt for them.

Which conflicts a bit, because I quite like Ange and wish he was at another club than them, or any of the cabal members !

A good Christmas pressie would be a dartboard with Daniel Levy's face as the bullseye .

 

[Whether or not]

The loser is going to be punished. Therefore, possible relegation for us, or a points award to us of, say 30 points - a penalty to all the other cunts for maligning us for 15 years. This 30 points cushion might just see us doing 5 in a row, though, the way we're playing at the moment, we might still finish below the scum.

I had never thought of a points award to us when the charges are thrown out. There is not a snowballs chance it would ever happen, but it is an amusing daydream that we finish 29 points behind the victims, and then get awarded 30 points.

 

[slbsn]

That's not entirely true.
Sports organisations have exemptions that allow them to have members agree on different rules that CAN conflict with statute.
A prime example of this is competitions based on gender or age. Specific legal medications excluding you from competition etc.
We already have investment limitations in sport that do not apply to other businesses. The recent ruling on APT didn't rule that putting limits on investments was illegal, it ruled that not applying similar rules to loans was unfair.

The key point is that there is no limitation carve out in the PL rules which, in the absence of that, is English law

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

And. Whilst all this City bashing has been going on and whilst all this 'the middle east is taking over and needs to be stopped' propaganda has been peddled. The Americans have quietly acquired their 10th club in the Premier League, meaning they now control HALF of the clubs in the league, which means they have at least 50% of the votes in any decisions about the future of the league. Add to this the fact that all UK TV coverage of the league is also American owned and you can see how nobody else stands a chance outside of Uncle Sam's own clubs.

Cunts are always planning for their own ends - sponsored by Donald fucking Trump no doubt.

 

[Damocles]

massive can of worms here. Lets look at the full supply chain for football and see if there are any breaches of Human Rights elsewhere within the chain. House of Lords - full of shite -

It's a classic political strategy mate, I mean Roman historians talking about the Second Triumvirate wrote about it.

It is about drawing lines. You have to draw the lines of moral acceptability so that you are inside of them but your opponents are outside of them, no matter how squiggly those lines are they will be justifiable with the right rhetoric. It's simple really, you investigate human rights abuses of owners but not minority owners. Or full owners but not sponsors. Or owners and major sponsors but not minority sponsors. It's a sort of moral gerrymandering and they all engage in it, arguably its the basis of all political science itself.

 

[give it to gordon]

And. Whilst all this City bashing has been going on and whilst all this 'the middle east is taking over and needs to be stopped' propaganda has been peddled. The Americans have quietly acquired their 10th club in the Premier League, meaning they now control HALF of the clubs in the league, which means they have at least 50% of the votes in any decisions about the future of the league. Add to this the fact that all UK TV coverage of the league is also American owned and you can see how nobody else stands a chance outside of Uncle Sam's own clubs.

I challenge you to go and find the sensationalist headlines and articles about the risk this poses for our great game.... I wouldn't even bother looking if I were you

It baffles me that football fans can not see the danger of American owners.

 

[Damocles]

It baffles me that football fans can not see the danger of American owners.

Because they're white. I don't know why the incredible racism and xenophobia over Arab owners is not acknowledged more. It really IS this simple. Occam's razor.

 

[dickie davies]

If fraud is involved, the burden of proof threshold is much higher than balance of probabilities and more aligned with beyond reasonable doubt.

It's not a court of justice. It's an independent tribunal

I'd liken it to a private prosecution where the burden of proof to win a case can be much lower

But as I said, I think the charges will be "unproven"

 

[eastmanc]

I've done it a couple of times. It's not as hard as you think.

What a strange answer.

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

It baffles me that football fans can not see the danger of American owners.

Fans maybe but sadly some owners just want the money from the cunts, and then its no longer their worry.

Fans don't control the owners sadly, and we are privileged to have our owners, despite some shortfalls in other aspects.

 

[Bodicoteblue]

It baffles me that football fans can not see the danger of American owners.

They can’t see through the carefully constructed smoke screen of City being the enemies of English football and the threat that will bring down the whole edifice while the real culprits get on with…..bringing down the whole edifice for their own benefit.

 

[slbsn]

If fraud is involved, the burden of proof threshold is much higher than balance of probabilities and more aligned with beyond reasonable doubt.

I’m afraid this isn’t true

 

[toffee balls]

And. Whilst all this City bashing has been going on and whilst all this 'the middle east is taking over and needs to be stopped' propaganda has been peddled. The Americans have quietly acquired their 10th club in the Premier League, meaning they now control HALF of the clubs in the league, which means they have at least 50% of the votes in any decisions about the future of the league. Add to this the fact that all UK TV coverage of the league is also American owned and you can see how nobody else stands a chance outside of Uncle Sam's own clubs.

I challenge you to go and find the sensationalist headlines and articles about the risk this poses for our great game.... I wouldn't even bother looking if I were you

They have 25% share in city too.

 

[Citi-leaks]

It baffles me that football fans can not see the danger of American owners.

Well, this narrative that a 'red cartel'/'PL cabal' assembled in an under ground bunker, and created FFPR to stop Arab owners, could not be further from the truth. The Glazers, Gillet & Hicks, Kroenke & Lerner did not want anyone snooping around in their financials, especially after saddling those clubs with huge debts from LBO's and asset stripping for their own financial gain. And Arsenal had just spent 1 billion on a new stadium. Abramovic was definitely not in favour of financial regulation, either.

FFPR came from France and Germany. It was not created here. The only reason why it was adopted so wholeheartedly by the PL, was to stop their prized assets from being bought out by American businessmen and hedge funds trying to make a quick buck. They feared that if enough American owners could get a strangle hold over the league, then the possibility of a European Super league would be unstoppable. And it almost did happen. FFPR was the only thing that they could use to put them off. They also tried to get a law passed that LBO's had to be approved by the minister for sport.

 

[cheekybids]

It's a classic political strategy mate, I mean Roman historians talking about the Second Triumvirate wrote about it.

It is about drawing lines. You have to draw the lines of moral acceptability so that you are inside of them but your opponents are outside of them, no matter how squiggly those lines are they will be justifiable with the right rhetoric. It's simple really, you investigate human rights abuses of owners but not minority owners. Or full owners but not sponsors. Or owners and major sponsors but not minority sponsors. It's a sort of moral gerrymandering and they all engage in it, arguably its the basis of all political science itself.

Or Arabs & not Americans

 

[cheekybids]

Well, this narrative that a 'red cartel'/'PL cabal' assembled in an under ground bunker, and created FFPR to stop Arab owners, could not be further from the truth. The Glazers, Gillet & Hicks, Kroenke & Lerner did not want anyone snooping around in their financials, especially after saddling those clubs with huge debts from LBO's and asset stripping for their own financial gain. And Arsenal had just spent 1 billion on a new stadium. Abramovic was definitely not in favour of financial regulation, either.

FFPR came from France and Germany. It was not created here. The only reason why it was adopted so wholeheartedly by the PL, was to stop their prized assets from being bought out by American businessmen and hedge funds trying to make a quick buck. They feared that if enough American owners could get a strangle hold over the league, then the possibility of a European Super league would be unstoppable. And it almost did happen. FFPR was the only thing that they could use to put them off. They also tried to get a law passed that LBO's had to be approved by the minister for sport.

The red cartel wrote to the premier league with suggested FFP changes.