PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

mancboy said:
No, no, no they have not convinced people we are guilty, they have convinced idiots we are guilty, they have convinced the same idiots who believed us and the dippers shared the last 6 titles, they have convinced the same idiots that believed that the rags had a genuine shot at the champions league, it is not hard to convince these morons of anything as they want to believe it, they want to believe that its not mismanagement by their clubs and that they arent quite good enough, they want to believe it in the same way that they want to believe that if it wasnt for that knee injury theyd have made it and played in the premier league and that they are the funniest person in the office and everyone is laughing with them not at them, they havent convinced anyone with half a brain of anything, its just unfortunate that as with most things the vocal idiot minority make the loudest noise.
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The same idiots that are convinced the problems in Paris were all UEFAs fault.
 
abu13 said:
Exactly and this is the thing that I have been stressing to some Rags that I know, The PL have no power to relegate us to any specific league. The only other option that they have would be to expel us completely from the PL in which case we would then have to appeal to the EFL for membership and it would be them who decide where we would enter the structure.

However the key thing for me is this, how much damage would be done to us as a club if we were expelled and the EPL said we needed to start again in Division 2? It would be huge, the money lost alone by the time we returned to the Premier league would run over a Billion pounds.

Now imagine that we then appeal the decision and win, or better still go to court and prove FFP to be illegal under EU laws and then go after the PL for last revenue and damages. We would quite possibly bankrupt them. Therefore I see the worst that happens is a huge points deduction to relegate us.

I do wonder if they would try to do something radical like a total 300 point reduction but broken down into 60 point deductions for every year we are in the PL. This would guarantee that every time we gained promotion we would get relegated again the following season. No top level player would want to come to us knowing this and as such would basically ruin us for the next 20 years plus.
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You sound ill mate.
 
Lord Blue said:
Actually there might be something in that.

Should a team that is in the premier league for just 1 year in the last 10 have the same voting rights as an ever present like Everton? Maybe, maybe not.

Should Everton get relegated should they lose all voting rights immediately?

Maybe it should be proportional. Maybe you get 1 vote for each of the rolling last 10 years you were in the premier league. So City, Spurs, Chelsea, Everton, Newcastle, Palace would all currently get 10 votes each whereas Burnley would get 8 votes and Forest would get 2 votes.

Not sold on that idea, but it's still the case that no one team gets more than 1/20 of the total vote.
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Yes they should as votes are based on things that will happen in the future not the past.
Doing it this way would give more voting rights to Everton than say Brentford but everton might not be in the PL much longer whereas Brentford could stay in the league for 10 more years.
 
Man_City_Loyal said:
we did PB?
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Some of the payments made to the club's managers and players were made by external companies because they were contracted that way (Mancini had a separate contract in AD/ image rights were "outsourced" to a third party). Presumably after tax and legal clearances. Those contracts, as far as we know, were properly recorded in the accounts. We have no reason to believe otherwise. Remember the audited accounts don't have to comply with any PL requirements, other than giving a true and fair view. The two questions are if these other payments needed to be reported to the PL and, if they did, were they? Which brings into the equation PB's other point on interpretation. In any case, I doubt a few disputed non-disclosures would lead to a severe sanction. Also, the numbers involved probably were most likely not significant enough to alter the true and fair view given by the accounts or the club's FFP position, anyway.
 
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