OK, let's be realistic

dickie davies said:
I stopped reading there because Rodri being injured isn’t the main problem

The problem is having a small squad of top quality players and as some left, not replacing them with other top quality players and letting the others get older with no succession plan
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If you’d have carried on reading you would have seen that Oakie mentions all that.
 
TonyM said:
But we are all blues. Some will adjust faster than others to this shocking form. Hopefully in a bit we'll be back to being pretty realistic about ourselves, players and manager.
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Feels like a comfy pair of old slippers to me mate, just wish ticket prices would go back to the mid 90s too.
 
M23 Citizen said:
I said on another thread; they were loving it and supporting Pep and the players after 8 great years but want them out after 8 bad weeks.

That’s not support, it’s entitlement.

Just got to roll our sleeves up and plough on with toughness and resolve. Fans, players and manager alike, altogether as one.

Up the Blues!
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You can want change and not be entitled.

It's not black or white.

People should be respected regardless of their opinions. We are all blues.
 
TonyM said:
You can want change and not be entitled.

It's not black or white.

People should be respected regardless of their opinions. We are all blues.
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However some of the responses on the Match Day Forum were truly shocking and the word "toxic" springs to mind.
Yes its like this on every match day but some people just cant understand why it should/could be happening to us.
 
Should have seen this after the fa cup final loss to utd. Utd didn't win that final we lost it.

The boys, the squad are knackered. They've worked harder than any other team in setting the standards and they've done it for years. It was bound to happen. We need fresh faces, and inspiration for the current team.

Next season is our season lol
 
M23 Citizen said:
I have always envisioned a ‘fall from grace’ like this was possible because it’s commonplace in English football.

Go back through the history books and look at Champions and what has happened to them.

City alone:
1936-37 Champions… relegated in 1938.
1967-68 Champions… 13th in 1969.
2017-18 Champions with 100pts, 2018-19 Champions with 98pts with an incredibly tough title run-in… out of the title race in November and finished on 81pts in in 2019-20.
2020-21 we nearly did a treble, 2021-22 Champions with another incredibly tough title run-in, 2022-23 treble winners, 2023-24 four-in-a-row record breakers… and what we’re witnessing this season as a drop-off.

This drop-off should not be a surprise. Even if everyone had been fit, I’d imagine we’d have had a drop-off this season.

In just my lifetime there’s been:
Villa 1980-81 Champions… 11th (granted with a EC win) in 1982
Arsenal 1989-90 Champions… 9th in 1991, 13th in 1992
Leeds 1991-92 Champions… 17th in 1993
Blackburn 1994-95 Champions… 7th in 1996
Newcastle 1995-96 2nd and 1996-97 2nd… 13th in 1998
United 2012-13 Champions… 7th in 2014
Chelsea 2014-15 Champions… 10th in 2016
Leicester 2015-16 Champions… 12th in 2017
Chelsea 2016-17 Champions… 5th in 2018
Liverpool finished 2nd on 97pts and won the CL in 2018-19, won the PL with 99pts and a CL final in 2019-20… 3rd on just 69pts in 2021
Liverpool finished 2nd on 92pts and a CL final in 2021–22… finished 5th on 67pts in 2023.

What City are doing this season is completely normal in English football.
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Put it this way. It happens. It's never happened to Pep, not even close. That said, his other two clubs have been Barcelona and Bayern, both in leagues where for years and indeed for decades one (or two) club wins the league or finishes second. Nobody else seriously challenges. And he stayed a much shorter period with both. But it's new for him, and it has to be getting to him.
I can envision a finish as low as eighth or ninth. It wouldn't surprise me all that much. The only question that then interests me is how do the club, how does Pep, how does Viana, how do the owners, regroup? Losing is one thing. Losing out on a season, even. Had to happen, and I'm fairly philosophical about it. The only question to me is how do you react to losing? It would not surprise me if one year from now we were cheering Pep and the players to the rafters.
Meanwhile, moan all we like, we have to stay with the team, with the club, if we are City supporters.
 
TonyM said:
You can want change and not be entitled.

It's not black or white.

People should be respected regardless of their opinions. We are all blues.
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Of course, when it’s reasonable.

I won’t respect stuff like this though:

Post in thread 'Match Thread | Aston Villa vs. Man City (21/12/24)'
https://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/...lla-vs-man-city-21-12-24.366849/post-17786185

Post in thread '2 | Kyle Walker - 2024/25'
https://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/threads/2-kyle-walker-2024-25.365365/post-17742100

Were supposed to all be Blues in it together, including with our attitude towards our players. We should be appreciating them for their achievements at their best and respectful to them when they’re at their worst because it’s not like they’re doing it on purpose, they don’t need kicking when they’re down.
 
Every time I read someone still trying to find some justification for this mini-Armageddon, this comes to mind! This is not fecking normal, imagine Amazon or Netflix were doing programs on us this season, pure gold!

giphy.webp
 
Lovebitesandeveryfing said:
Put it this way. It happens. It's never happened to Pep, not even close. That said, his other two clubs have been Barcelona and Bayern, both in leagues where for years and indeed for decades one (or two) club wins the league or finishes second. Nobody else seriously challenges. And he stayed a much shorter period with both. But it's new for him, and it has to be getting to him.
I can envision a finish as low as eighth or ninth. It wouldn't surprise me all that much. The only question that then interests me is how do the club, how does Pep, how does Viana, how do the owners, regroup? Losing is one thing. Losing out on a season, even. Had to happen, and I'm fairly philosophical about it. The only question to me is how do you react to losing? It would not surprise me if one year from now we were cheering Pep and the players to the rafters.
Meanwhile, moan all we like, we have to stay with the team, with the club, if we are City supporters.
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I would genuinely prefer a finish of low top half and miss out on Europa League and Europa Conference and build for the PL title without Europe like Chelsea did when they won the title in 2016-17 after finishing 10th as Champions the season before.
 
Fordyboy46 said:
Last summers window was the catalyst for me, a dire effort with a measly 20m spent on a winger we didn't really need. We all thought Gundo coming back was a masterstroke but it's not paid off at all, he looks finished tbqh. But we needed more and for whatever reason we decided that would do, we all knew it wasn't enough but the powers that be saw different. It really has come back to bite us
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I never thought bringing gungon was a fucking masterstroke thank you!
 
oakiecokie said:
Is the main problem to our injuries !!!!! If you read my whole post I give multiple instances !!
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Would Rodri solve the 25 goals and assists that Alvarez contributed?
Would he fill in for the goals and assists of Mahrez, who we never truly replaced
Would he solve our left back problem?
Would he solve our right back problem?
Would he solve the ageing and injury prone KDB problem?

So the answer is that our main problem is not replacing top quality players with other top quality players and we've let the ones who were once good enough, get too old to contribute
 
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