Aston Villa (A) | PL | Post Match Thread

[RayCTID]

You parrot the same shite every time. Must be shite because Pep thought so. Not even logical you daft get.

Lay off the insults mate. He hardly ripped it up at City. Take off your Cole Palmer tints.

 

[blueabdi]

Pep your destroying your own legacy by playing finished walker and gundo everyweek. Keep playing bro

 

[ColinBellsjockstrap]

Think about it for a minute.

If you were a world class top player, I'm talking world class, would you really want to come to City knowing you could be playing in the Championship next season?

Damage limitation. Try and scrape top four this season, have a reasonable FA cup run, get 115 out of the way and start afresh next season.

 

[Fordyboy46]

All we are saying is give O'reilly and Mcatee a chance, and I don't mean just one game if they fail

 

[ScottSinclair]

I completely understand your point.

It's all about timing too, The likes of Palmer would have got more game time now at City than he was two years ago, He wasn't prepared to wait around for his opportunity and credit to him for moving on.

Pep loves to work with a small squad and be narrowed down to squad to players to have gone on and won the Treble and 4 In A Row so his moves were obviously the correct ones.

Chelsea squad was incredible around those years too and they were very successful, They has players in the squad that still had years at a high level so decided to move Salah and De Bruyne on (at that time).

Timing in football is the most important and when you are so successful everything has to fall into place especially to do what we've been doing in recent years, Right now "some" of the players we've moved on we could actually be doing with right now, The reality is we didn't need them 2 or 3 years ago. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

I agree, and it is a fair point. But cold hard truth is that there aren't even 2-3 year periods where we see the results of our sales. Palmer were already finding his form in our shirt last season before we sold him. Perhaps not good enough in the long run but we could absolutely do with Delap on the bench this year when Alvarez were going. PSR is obviously a factor, but our decisions seems to be catching up to us quicker and quicker these days

 

[Sheik Battle and Goal]

I agree completely mate, but the decline has been far too quick for my liking.

We were - very clearly - the best team in the world until the FA Cup final in May. We were a shadow of our best in that game, and performances have been largely below our expected standards ever since then.

Injuries or not, there's absolutely no excuse for a club of this size, wealth, and experience allowing a squad to drift 'past it's best'.

Succession planning has been non-existent.

We never win at home
And we never win away
We lost last week...

Man City
Man City
We’ll support you ever more
We’ll support you ever more

 

[Lavinda Past]

Has it ever occurred to you that maybe they are just mentally and physically shot, and what they need is patience and understanding, especially given that the last three years have probably been the best of those 63?

Football is a business, not a charity. You can't afford to stand still or you get left behind.

They're multi millionaire professional footballers. They're big enough and clever enough know when time is up.

Patience and understanding? Are they sick? Did you feel the same about Danny Mills? Michael Johnson? Paul Lake?

If players are done, they're done. There's no room for sentiment at elite level - If they're not good enough anymore, get rid and replace them.

 

[Petetheblu]

Think about it for a minute.

If you were a world class top player, I'm talking world class, would you really want to come to City knowing you could be playing in the Championship next season?

Damage limitation. Try and scrape top four this season, have a reasonable FA cup run, get 115 out of the way and start afresh next season.

And sue the arse off the PL...(^;

 

[JTFactsPlz]

Await the
"He wanted to go."
"He wanted to go".
Pile on.

Palmer decided to go because the club bought Doku to replace Mahrez rather than giving the RW spot to Cole. (People seem to have forgotten Doku was actually bought as a RWer because that's where he'd been playing at his previous club. He wasn't expected to become mainly a LWer, as Pep decided after he arrived.)

Understandably, the decision to, in effect, screw Palmer over following Mahrez's departure didn't sit well with Cole and he took a decision which has worked out very well for him. Palmer leaving is on Pep.

 

[sir baconface]

He's telling the truth. Palmer had zero fight. Mahrez left it was his chance.

His chance for a few minutes here and there. He had so little fight that he left his long term club and home city to back himself elsewhere…and end up winning the fight hands down.

 

[SWPISHOME]

Some in here think that because you win something - you can't possibly have been even better. It's a complacent, unanalytical logic. However those thinking it is possible are obviously Johnny come lately and spoiled.

You can definitely get better even after you win something, I just don't think playing at the level we've been playing at is sustainable year in year out, To be honest in a lot of seasons myself along with many others were watching City's Football thinking (It can't get any better than this)...Very hard to sustain it never mind topping that standard. It's going to take its toll on players and staff eventually.

A season like this was always going to happen maybe not to this extent of a drop off but a certain drop off.

I just feel alot of posters on here need to take a breath and take in what we've achieved and take a season like this on the chin. Alot on here or so used to success now that they are taking trophies for granted...

It will taste so much sweeter when we win that title back in 25/26...

 

[kaz7]

Reel um in, biggest catch of the day

You should not be using autism in any context let alone an insult , wind your neck in

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

Reel um in, biggest catch of the day

So using Ignorant language is " a catch " ?

What a lovely person

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

I’m still right though, always am

That explains so much !

 

[WestGorton]

Think about it for a minute.

If you were a world class top player, I'm talking world class, would you really want to come to City knowing you could be playing in the Championship next season?

Damage limitation. Try and scrape top four this season, have a reasonable FA cup run, get 115 out of the way and start afresh next season.

I would happily win nothing and finish mid table to get the civil legal case done with a good outcome. Fucking sick of it now.

 

[Norman kneejerk]

The question is - do we believe someone else can do the things you say better than Pep can. If you know who that someone else is , please let me know

You may be right but some very expensive mistakes have been made in and out and we are being outplayed every week.So I think we are entitled to ask.

 

[Grassland Blue]

I don’t think January fixes this, even next summer. The players have checked out, that was at best, cowardly. Can we replace them all? At the moment I fucking would.

Fickle fecker......

 

[Roachy]

At least there is a

Autistic or have you been allowed to stay up late due to breaking up from school

Less of the autistic references mate, below the belt that.

 

[makinghistory]

On Pep, this. He picks the same shit week in, week out. The same shit that don’t look arsed. The same shit that dangle their foot into challenges. The same shit that are petty when they’re losing.

There’s youngsters who are eager to play. And they’d show a bit of determination in their play. A bit of fight. A bit of anything that’s not the usual shit that’s been served up for the past 2 months.

Emery was arrogant enough today to play two different tactics against him (Pep) and he had no answer for either. It’s embarrassing at this point and it’s numblingly shit to watch.

If I see somebody else say ‘it’s been worse than this’ then they need to look at the difference in the players. Jamie fucking Pollock isn’t Bernardo Silva. Samaras isn’t Haaland. The list goes on. The players we have should be doing better than what they are and it stems from one man - Pep.

He takes the plaudits - rightly - when things go right and he should be able to take responsibility when it’s going wrong. Highlighting injuries in press conferences? Do me a favour.

Whatever he’s been doing over the past 2 months hasn’t worked and he hasn’t changed it at all.

Same high line. Same players. Same tactics. Same blunt attack. Same tepid defence.

All while we have players at other teams - who were in our academy - showing exactly what we’re missing. Rogers with his energy and determination. Palmer with his bravery on the ball and guile. Both players Pep and Txiki were happy to let go so they could play their favourites.

Mahrez not replaced. Walker renewed. Gundo replacing himself.

Needs sorting and fucking quick.

Why keep playing Haaland when we never play to him? We won the league with no cf. Let's change tactics. Further... the truth is we have lost a lot quality and never replaced with same quality. Injuries are no excuse anymore. We have to be capable of winning a match even with injuries FFS.

 

[AndyP68]

Football is a business, not a charity. You can't afford to stand still or you get left behind.

They're multi millionaire professional footballers. They're big enough and clever enough know when time is up.

Patience and understanding? Are they sick? Did you feel the same about Danny Mills? Michael Johnson? Paul Lake?

If players are done, they're done. There's no room for sentiment at elite level - If they're not good enough anymore, get rid and replace them.

Jesus wept. You know more about running a successful football business than Khaldoon, Txiki and Pep?

Offer them your services as a coach and motivational speaker.

You have no idea what the issues are, other than how they are manifesting on the pitch.

Had Lake been looked after properly he’d have made a recovery. You’d have shot him on the pitch against Villa.