Aston Villa (A) | PL | Post Match Thread

Millo said:
Our recruitment policy or lack of one has caused this decline.
I can't believe someone thought it was a good idea not to replace Alvarez.
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Foden had scored 27 last season. Alvarez finished on 19. Foden isn't a striker and doesn't take penalties.
 
Always remember there were signs of problems early on when people here said SOUTHAMPTON deserve to be in better position on the table ,this was the level of delusion running here among people bcoz we had to sweat it to beat that ordinary side
 
simon23 said:
Keep blaming the injuries all you want (and it is an issue) but the bigger issue is the players that ARE available

Gundo and Lewis - neither are good enough -Gundo once was but he is FINISHED - done ...his career anywhere near the top is over. Lewis will never be good enough....said it last year - he aint a fullback and he aint a midfielder....not good enough in either position - Id drive both of them out the exit door gladly

Grealish - said when we bought him he is overrated....people reckoned he could be the next KDB - HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!!!!!!! This team have carried him every year he has been here bar one....he is one of the symptoms of our demise - over paying for average English talent - (Phillips anyone!!!) - I would sell him in a heartbeat even for 15m or less

Stones - couldnt last more than half a game again - needs to be sold - along with AKE - both good servents but they are now the past. ...but realistically no one is going to buy them with their injury records and wages so we are going to have to let them go on free's

Walker - like Gundo - finished!! - not his fault but time to say good bye - his career is done at the top level...let him go to sheffield utd or somewhere on the continent

Bernardo - overplayed

KDB - cant play enough and when he does he is so slow, dispossessed easily and nowhere near the force he once was...and never will be again - there will be the odd spark from him once in a while but that is it...hopefulyl gone in the summer so we can rebuild - let him go to Saudi or the States.....do NOT give him a new contract or give him another season - biggest mistake we could make

And there are people in here actually blaming Haaland - have you not wathced him for the past few seasons - he is never a player who can run around, drop deep and get invovled in play - he is the best goal scorer in the world but he needs service....he is getting nothing from the midfield. - there is no point in him running around like a headless chicken - it achieves nothing.

Nothing changes this season - and PLEASE dont say Bruno G from Newcastle will solve it.....he is Newcastle level at BEST

Get used to this till next season - this season is all about survival
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INJURIES
Well, every club has them, even if it's a major injury crisis they will change the system to suit whatever is available to play even using the EDS and Youth,

But what you do not see is their best players ghosting and walking through games on a weekly basis and getting away with it, Like you say, forget new faces in the winter window bringing us joy, because the damage is not reversible this season and the players that will playing are the ones starting already.

Losing we all can take, and Yes the 6 or 7 years we have had there was always going to be a drop-off and again all the fans would understand, But what we don't understand is the drop-off and injuries have killed us.

Honestly, where do you see the next win ? or a performance coming, We are so brickle and done its crazy
Why have there been no changes and no Mcatee, Wilson Esbrand, Nico O'Reilly or any other EDS or youth players.
 
AndyP68 said:
While not much comfort, the timing of whatever is wrong at present has coincided with some relatively tough fixtures. A few easier matches, if won, could have alleviated the pressure.
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No comfort as Liverpool aside we have started favorites in every game and have a record of 1-2-9.

We wouldn't beat Wolves or Southampton or Ipswich away from home at present.

Lets face facts we are rubbish , fodder even and Pep has no clue how to change things for the better.

No sign things will get better in fact they look like getting worse until Pep changes the formation , line up and works out how to get his mojo and the players mojo back and believing in themselves again and that is highly unlikely to be this season.

We need lots of fresh , exciting high quality players and a bigger squad ready to take the premiership by storm , the current crop with a few exceptions are finished.
 
Anybody else fear a good beating by somebody
I think if Villa had scored that very first-minute chance we would have folded like a pack of cards
 
AndyP68 said:
15 games, 50 days, clearly a lot of injuries, very few easy games in that 15.

We are well off our best without doubt. We will get better. No one has ever achieved what we have.

Musicians release crap albums. Actors make bad films.
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Sorry but I can't find the sympathy this season with the Club.

The club and the coaches all know from our success that we usually go deep into competitions. A minimum of around 60 games would be expected. Pep knows the relentlessness and rigours of the Premier league schedule more than any manager.

To continue those aspirations of winning lots of trophies, calculations must take place, on squad numbers, player development/promotion to senior squad, transfers and also injuries must come into that calculation.

I find it hard that pre season no one has asked the question - what if Rodri gets injured. Or Haaland? And has also looked at the ages of the senior players and thought "Yep, we're good to go again"
 
RayCTID said:
It mean very little if the players don't want to join us for one reason or another to replace the aging starts. Rather than waste money on another Kalvin Phillips or a Wilfred Bony they decided to ride out this season with who we got along with Gundo's return and another promising player with Savio. What happened we got a freak injury with Bobb and then it went rapidly downhill after a good away win vs Chelsea.
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True, but I think we caught Chelsea 'unprepared' to be fair. We weren't that good at Stamford Bridge, and haven't been all season truth be told.
 
Bluemoon has risen said:
That 2nd half was absolutely awful. The 1st half wasn't good, but that 2nd half was really bad.

We're too nice a team. Happy to pass it around side to side and try to keep the ball but we don't penetrate teams anymore and when the opposition have it, we don't attack them, we just stand off and let them play through balls behind the defence. The 2nd goal a perfect example of just letting them run through untouched. Rodri would've stuck his foot in and took a booking for the team if needed but none of these lot are willing to do it or work hard enough.

We simply have to buy in January. 2 or 3 players are needed minimum. The midfield especially is crying out for some physicality and creativity.
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I agree we are too nice. The foul count was 14 villa 7 us.
 
AndyP68 said:
They became immortal when they won 4 in a row. Nobody would give a fuck if we’d lost to anyone else.
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But that is the problem. You are accepting they are immortal immediately after they won the league, I'm not. Yes it hurt more because it was the rags but professional athletes do not go on the piss before the season has ended.
It told them that mentally the season had finished, further their bodies could not physically recover in time for the final.
It was an End of Season Party a week before the chance of a double double.
Professionally they could have gone on the piss immediately after the parade but if course, a lot had to report for international duty and we can't have that, heaven forbid.
Add to that no significant signings to rejuvenate the squad and keep it fresh.
 
mancity111 said:
We need lots of fresh , exciting high quality players and a bigger squad ready to take the premiership by storm , the current crop with a few exceptions are finished.
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That can not happen in the winter window and will not happen, Manchester City and Pep need a rethink more than a major rebuild right now, Something has to give Pep or the Players, 100% players don't want to play in this system or can not play in this system because of burnout and injuries to key players,

Plus, Pep has to bring in some EDS players and Youth players in the next game vs Everton and let's see if they can cope with the system better than what we are watching right now,

I can only see this ending one way, this gives me nightmares and it's not the one that will be best for the club
 
BlueMonkey79 said:
Sorry but I can't find the sympathy this season with the Club.

The club and the coaches all know from our success that we usually go deep into competitions. A minimum of around 60 games would be expected. Pep knows the relentlessness and rigours of the Premier league schedule more than any manager.

To continue those aspirations of winning lots of trophies, calculations must take place, on squad numbers, player development/promotion to senior squad, transfers and also injuries must come into that calculation.

I find it hard that pre season no one has asked the question - what if Rodri gets injured. Or Haaland? And has also looked at the ages of the senior players and thought "Yep, we're good to go again"
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At some point in the summer there must have been a thorough assessment of the squad. We can only suspect the belief was that we were good to go. Notwithstanding the injuries, the club was obviously aware of players ages, previous seasons exertions and our continued reliance on certain players. I think they gambled and it's backfired unfortunately.
 
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