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The 2025 Rebuild of City Squad
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aguerooo93
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Bruno Guimaraes and a forward this January, in the summer I'd move on Walker, Ederson, Gundo and Grealish (if Pep decides doesn't want to give him more minutes) and maybe Bernardo if he still wants to leave
Once we have Bruno / another top CM and an Alvarez replacement, #1 priority should be a world-class GK who's comfortable on the ball. Ederson too inconsistent, and while great on the ball, isn't in the top 5-6 shotstoppers in the league tbh
KDB, Foden, Dias, Stones etc will regain their form, with Rodri coming back from injury and Rico Lewis, Savinho, Bobb gonna be better next year and we're back
Once we have Bruno / another top CM and an Alvarez replacement, #1 priority should be a world-class GK who's comfortable on the ball. Ederson too inconsistent, and while great on the ball, isn't in the top 5-6 shotstoppers in the league tbh
KDB, Foden, Dias, Stones etc will regain their form, with Rodri coming back from injury and Rico Lewis, Savinho, Bobb gonna be better next year and we're back
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I’d be astonished if KDB and Stones are still here next season.Bruno Guimaraes and a forward this January, in the summer I'd move on Walker, Ederson, Gundo and Grealish (if Pep decides doesn't want to give him more minutes) and maybe Bernardo if he still wants to leave
Once we have Bruno / another top CM and an Alvarez replacement, #1 priority should be a world-class GK who's comfortable on the ball. Ederson too inconsistent, and while great on the ball, isn't in the top 5-6 shotstoppers in the league tbh
KDB, Foden, Dias, Stones etc will regain their form, with Rodri coming back from injury and Rico Lewis, Savinho, Bobb gonna be better next year and we're back
They can’t regain their form for a sustained period of time - KDB is shot to bits and Stones is made of glass.
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Frimpong RB,THB CB, Robinson LB, Luiz ( on loan) Kimmoch cost £150 in January .Bruno Guimaraes and a forward this January, in the summer I'd move on Walker, Ederson, Gundo and Grealish (if Pep decides doesn't want to give him more minutes) and maybe Bernardo if he still wants to leave
Once we have Bruno / another top CM and an Alvarez replacement, #1 priority should be a world-class GK who's comfortable on the ball. Ederson too inconsistent, and while great on the ball, isn't in the top 5-6 shotstoppers in the league tbh
KDB, Foden, Dias, Stones etc will regain their form, with Rodri coming back from injury and Rico Lewis, Savinho, Bobb gonna be better next year and we're back
Be a little ironic if we ended up with 3 players that were previously ours.Frimpong RB,THB CB, Robinson LB, Luiz ( on loan) Kimmoch cost £150 in January .
Heres my rebuild
1) Id sign that guy from Villareal, Alex Baena.
Dude has elite goal creation numbers from LW.
Baena, Doku LW
Bobb, Savio RW
That looks really good to me. The academy also recently is producing some top talent (once again), no reason we cant have some 3rd choice wingers from there.
2) Grealish, Nunes, O Reilly, and Lewis to be molded and play more as the #8 while Gundogan, Kovacic and Bernie leave.
Thats still 4 players for 1 spot, but all 4 could also play elsewhere in a pinch. Even still could probably sell one of them easily.
Also Divine Mukasa from the academy looks a future star, as Grealishs contract runs down id integrate him as an 8/10.
3) Buy Jonathan David to rotate for Haaland and Foden. Can play with a striker or as the striker, and his price looks cheap.
4) Buy a very defensive CDM to rotate with Rodri (Gvardiol inverts from LB), and you can play both (if we have to) by having
1) Rodri partner the CDM as normal, but having a fullback push up (new player).
2) Rodri starts as a CB and pushes into midfield.
This player, id go for Ederson or Baleba, both have shown really good defensive instincts and can easily play with Rodri as well.
Id also use Jacob Wright as a 3rd choice CDM and 3rd choice RB (inverted).
4) Then to finish the rebuild, we would need atleast 3 defenders for now after selling Walker, and moving Lewis to as a backup 8.
Robinson (attacking LB) to play if Rodri partners the CDM, otherwise Gvardiol LB by default to invert.
Or Livramento is my alternative to Robinson as an attacking RB.
I dont care which, both are class, we only need one of them.
Juma Bah AND Ousmane Diomande as a RCB and RB respectively. Honestly this could be most talented defenders, as long as they are fit.
Calum Doyle brought back to be an understudy to Ake (who will need a replacement at some point).
Gvardiol, Robinson LB
Ake, Doyle LCB
Dias, Bah RCB
Akanji, Diomande RB (always becomes part of back 3).
Stones... if we can sell him sure do it, I simply dont think we can, so keep him and make him a back up.
That would be my start to the rebuild, buy 6 players and the 7th is a loanee.
Last 2 things, id use the buyback on Delap (more options up front) and Harwood Bellis (if we sell Stones or even if not who cares, hes a good backup).
Those 9 in total would complete the rebuild.
1) Id sign that guy from Villareal, Alex Baena.
Dude has elite goal creation numbers from LW.
Baena, Doku LW
Bobb, Savio RW
That looks really good to me. The academy also recently is producing some top talent (once again), no reason we cant have some 3rd choice wingers from there.
2) Grealish, Nunes, O Reilly, and Lewis to be molded and play more as the #8 while Gundogan, Kovacic and Bernie leave.
Thats still 4 players for 1 spot, but all 4 could also play elsewhere in a pinch. Even still could probably sell one of them easily.
Also Divine Mukasa from the academy looks a future star, as Grealishs contract runs down id integrate him as an 8/10.
3) Buy Jonathan David to rotate for Haaland and Foden. Can play with a striker or as the striker, and his price looks cheap.
4) Buy a very defensive CDM to rotate with Rodri (Gvardiol inverts from LB), and you can play both (if we have to) by having
1) Rodri partner the CDM as normal, but having a fullback push up (new player).
2) Rodri starts as a CB and pushes into midfield.
This player, id go for Ederson or Baleba, both have shown really good defensive instincts and can easily play with Rodri as well.
Id also use Jacob Wright as a 3rd choice CDM and 3rd choice RB (inverted).
4) Then to finish the rebuild, we would need atleast 3 defenders for now after selling Walker, and moving Lewis to as a backup 8.
Robinson (attacking LB) to play if Rodri partners the CDM, otherwise Gvardiol LB by default to invert.
Or Livramento is my alternative to Robinson as an attacking RB.
I dont care which, both are class, we only need one of them.
Juma Bah AND Ousmane Diomande as a RCB and RB respectively. Honestly this could be most talented defenders, as long as they are fit.
Calum Doyle brought back to be an understudy to Ake (who will need a replacement at some point).
Gvardiol, Robinson LB
Ake, Doyle LCB
Dias, Bah RCB
Akanji, Diomande RB (always becomes part of back 3).
Stones... if we can sell him sure do it, I simply dont think we can, so keep him and make him a back up.
That would be my start to the rebuild, buy 6 players and the 7th is a loanee.
Last 2 things, id use the buyback on Delap (more options up front) and Harwood Bellis (if we sell Stones or even if not who cares, hes a good backup).
Those 9 in total would complete the rebuild.
Forget nunes and Lewis to be anywhere near starting 11.Heres my rebuild
1) Id sign that guy from Villareal, Alex Baena.
Dude has elite goal creation numbers from LW.
Baena, Doku LW
Bobb, Savio RW
That looks really good to me. The academy also recently is producing some top talent (once again), no reason we cant have some 3rd choice wingers from there.
2) Grealish, Nunes, O Reilly, and Lewis to be molded and play more as the #8 while Gundogan, Kovacic and Bernie leave.
Thats still 4 players for 1 spot, but all 4 could also play elsewhere in a pinch. Even still could probably sell one of them easily.
Also Divine Mukasa from the academy looks a future star, as Grealishs contract runs down id integrate him as an 8/10.
3) Buy Jonathan David to rotate for Haaland and Foden. Can play with a striker or as the striker, and his price looks cheap.
4) Buy a very defensive CDM to rotate with Rodri (Gvardiol inverts from LB), and you can play both (if we have to) by having
1) Rodri partner the CDM as normal, but having a fullback push up (new player).
2) Rodri starts as a CB and pushes into midfield.
This player, id go for Ederson or Baleba, both have shown really good defensive instincts and can easily play with Rodri as well.
Id also use Jacob Wright as a 3rd choice CDM and 3rd choice RB (inverted).
4) Then to finish the rebuild, we would need atleast 3 defenders for now after selling Walker, and moving Lewis to as a backup 8.
Robinson (attacking LB) to play if Rodri partners the CDM, otherwise Gvardiol LB by default to invert.
Or Livramento is my alternative to Robinson as an attacking RB.
I dont care which, both are class, we only need one of them.
Juma Bah AND Ousmane Diomande as a RCB and RB respectively. Honestly this could be most talented defenders, as long as they are fit.
Calum Doyle brought back to be an understudy to Ake (who will need a replacement at some point).
Gvardiol, Robinson LB
Ake, Doyle LCB
Dias, Bah RCB
Akanji, Diomande RB (always becomes part of back 3).
Stones... if we can sell him sure do it, I simply dont think we can, so keep him and make him a back up.
That would be my start to the rebuild, buy 6 players and the 7th is a loanee.
Last 2 things, id use the buyback on Delap (more options up front) and Harwood Bellis (if we sell Stones or even if not who cares, hes a good backup).
Those 9 in total would complete the rebuild.
I tossed all 4 players as the 8s, but I think atleast 1 of them will need to go. Probably Nunes because the other 3 are english and homegrown.Forget nunes and Lewis to be anywhere near starting 11.
Lewis is fine as a 3rd choice 8 or even RB. He just isnt a starter.
Agree, Lewis to be a really handy squad player though. As for Nunes, just don't see him cutting it here tbh.Forget nunes and Lewis to be anywhere near starting 11.
Can't fault how you are going about this. My only question is how fast are Bah and Diomande. I really want the fastest CBs, DMs, and Fullbacks when we invest in those positions.Heres my rebuild
1) Id sign that guy from Villareal, Alex Baena.
Dude has elite goal creation numbers from LW.
Baena, Doku LW
Bobb, Savio RW
That looks really good to me. The academy also recently is producing some top talent (once again), no reason we cant have some 3rd choice wingers from there.
2) Grealish, Nunes, O Reilly, and Lewis to be molded and play more as the #8 while Gundogan, Kovacic and Bernie leave.
Thats still 4 players for 1 spot, but all 4 could also play elsewhere in a pinch. Even still could probably sell one of them easily.
Also Divine Mukasa from the academy looks a future star, as Grealishs contract runs down id integrate him as an 8/10.
3) Buy Jonathan David to rotate for Haaland and Foden. Can play with a striker or as the striker, and his price looks cheap.
4) Buy a very defensive CDM to rotate with Rodri (Gvardiol inverts from LB), and you can play both (if we have to) by having
1) Rodri partner the CDM as normal, but having a fullback push up (new player).
2) Rodri starts as a CB and pushes into midfield.
This player, id go for Ederson or Baleba, both have shown really good defensive instincts and can easily play with Rodri as well.
Id also use Jacob Wright as a 3rd choice CDM and 3rd choice RB (inverted).
4) Then to finish the rebuild, we would need atleast 3 defenders for now after selling Walker, and moving Lewis to as a backup 8.
Robinson (attacking LB) to play if Rodri partners the CDM, otherwise Gvardiol LB by default to invert.
Or Livramento is my alternative to Robinson as an attacking RB.
I dont care which, both are class, we only need one of them.
Juma Bah AND Ousmane Diomande as a RCB and RB respectively. Honestly this could be most talented defenders, as long as they are fit.
Calum Doyle brought back to be an understudy to Ake (who will need a replacement at some point).
Gvardiol, Robinson LB
Ake, Doyle LCB
Dias, Bah RCB
Akanji, Diomande RB (always becomes part of back 3).
Stones... if we can sell him sure do it, I simply dont think we can, so keep him and make him a back up.
That would be my start to the rebuild, buy 6 players and the 7th is a loanee.
Last 2 things, id use the buyback on Delap (more options up front) and Harwood Bellis (if we sell Stones or even if not who cares, hes a good backup).
Those 9 in total would complete the rebuild.
We are going to be a high line team so we need to prioritize speed on defense. I want Dias to be the slowest defender on the team.
And I'd personally rather both AKe and John considered as movable. Yes we might not be able to do it but that's how they should be viewed. Both are UDIs ( Unreliable Due to Injury).
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No idea about Bah, all though he look like a impressive physical specimen.Can't fault how you are going about this. My only question is how fast are Bah and Diomande. I really want the fastest CBs, DMs, and Fullbacks when we invest in those positions.
We are going to be a high line team so we need to prioritize speed on defense. I want Dias to be the slowest defender on the team.
And I'd personally rather both AKe and John considered as movable. Yes we might not be able to do it but that's how they should be viewed. Both are UDIs ( Unreliable Due to Injury).
But Diomande is rapid for a CB
Then you can count me a member of the Diomande fan club. I salivate any time I watch that super fast dude on Tottenham. That guy would be a terror of he played for us.No idea about Bah, all though he look like a impressive physical specimen.
But Diomande is rapid for a CB
He nullifies speed with ease. It's like watching prime Kyle Walker at CB
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He also has been turned inside out and made numerous mistakes leading to goals, you can't have it all. His freakish speed probably the cause of his hamstring injuries as well.Then you can count me a member of the Diomande fan club. I salivate any time I watch that super fast dude on Tottenham. That guy would be a terror of he played for us.
He nullifies speed with ease. It's like watching prime Kyle Walker at CB
Hmmm... Sick notes need not apply :(He also has been turned inside out and made numerous mistakes leading to goals, you can't have it all. His freakish speed probably the cause of his hamstring injuries as well.
I do want Ake replaced as the 4th defender, but think 3 defenders is a good start.Can't fault how you are going about this. My only question is how fast are Bah and Diomande. I really want the fastest CBs, DMs, and Fullbacks when we invest in those positions.
We are going to be a high line team so we need to prioritize speed on defense. I want Dias to be the slowest defender on the team.
And I'd personally rather both AKe and John considered as movable. Yes we might not be able to do it but that's how they should be viewed. Both are UDIs ( Unreliable Due to Injury).
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I’d be astonished if KDB and Stones are still here next season.
They can’t regain their form for a sustained period of time - KDB is shot to bits and Stones is made of glass.
KDB, like most of our players, has had a terrible season. That's not the same as being "shot to bits", there's been glimpses of his brilliance. Yes, he's lost his pace a bit but his game was never reliant on that and he has at least one, maybe two, seasons as a world-class player left
Stones hard to say
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1 - Should Pep be in charge of the rebuild? yes
2 - Which players should be moved on in 2025? ederson walker stones gundog kdb doku possibly haaland
3 - Which players should be offered new contracts? foden dias ortega gvardiol
3b - What players should we be targetting? the best available
4 - Who is making the decisions for the rebuild, i.e. Txiki or Hugo Viana Viana
5 - How will the 115 PL charges decision and other outside influences reflect on the rebuild. Do we wait until after the decision of the independent commission? most of the rebuild will be done after the decision anyhow
6 - what sort of figures do we realistically have to spend on a rebuild? depends on sales
7 - With the bad form we are in, how as fans can we help the club? loud support on match days
2 - Which players should be moved on in 2025? ederson walker stones gundog kdb doku possibly haaland
3 - Which players should be offered new contracts? foden dias ortega gvardiol
3b - What players should we be targetting? the best available
4 - Who is making the decisions for the rebuild, i.e. Txiki or Hugo Viana Viana
5 - How will the 115 PL charges decision and other outside influences reflect on the rebuild. Do we wait until after the decision of the independent commission? most of the rebuild will be done after the decision anyhow
6 - what sort of figures do we realistically have to spend on a rebuild? depends on sales
7 - With the bad form we are in, how as fans can we help the club? loud support on match days
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I admire your optimism mate, I genuinely do.KDB, like most of our players, has had a terrible season. That's not the same as being "shot to bits", there's been glimpses of his brilliance. Yes, he's lost his pace a bit but his game was never reliant on that and he has at least one, maybe two, seasons as a world-class player left
Stones hard to say
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Back to the good old 4-3-3 for start of next season:
______________Ortega
Frimpong__Diomande___Dias___Gvardiol
_______Foden__Rodri__Reijnders
______Bobb__Haaland__Isak
In posession and when we have control this would look a bit more modern like most teams set-up, like this:
______________Ortega
_____Diomande_Dias_Gvardiol
__________Rodri___Reijnders
Frimpong__Bobb___Foden__Isak
_____________Haaland
With Gvardiol also pushing up when Isak needs to tuck inside.
Fees is always a bit of a waste of time to predict but I will try. So for the supossed first eleven it would be:
Diomande 40 million ish
Reijnders 50 million, maybe less because of his contract
Frimpong (buy back???) 30 million
Isak 80 million
I'd move out Stones, KdB, Gundogan, Bernardo, Walker and Ederson because they are all too old, most seem intent on leaving. If the interest in Grealish is genuine and we get a high fee for him, especially if his relationship with Guardiola has broken down a bit I am also open to selling him. One of the few we will get a high fee for. Same with Nunes who shluld command an allright fee
The rebuild of the squad as a whole is as important as the first eleven. I'd continue to invest in youth that can grow together:
New young GK (actually no idea who, dislike
Costa)
Akanji -CB/RB
Aké - CB/LB
Dean Hujsen - Young potentially world-class CB, 40 million
Miguel Gutierez - 25 million, very promising left wing-back for rotation. Can get a fair price out of Girona
Kovacic - CM/Crisis DM
Alan Varela - 40 million, Rodri understudy
Lamine Camara - 20 million, CM/CDM Very high potential
Lewis-CM
McAtee - RW, Attacking midfielder
Doku - LW, RW
Savinho- RW, LW
Baena - 50 million release clause, can play left wing and inside left.
Delap - 30 million
New 24 man squad for close to 300 million pounds after two windows. A proper Chelsea transfer strategy, bringing in a lot of youth and potential into the squad. Isak really the only marquee signing that will make waves and be overly expensive. I'd still bring in the likes of Bah. Etcheverri, Pusey and also Perrone is in the plans for the future. But I'd loan them out next season to stake out their development. If Perrone has a good 6 months now on his current loan, maybe he could be a good option next year instead of say Camara.
The rebuild obviously isn't finished already next year. It might even be a transitional season used more for fully developing the side, seeing who is good enough. Beyond next season it might be time to look at moving on Akanji and Ake, with Diomande, Hujsen and Bah hopefully developing nicely.
If the wingers (Bobb, Savinho, Doku) isn't kicking on as they need to, maybe another high-profile signing in the summer 2026. Rodri's state after his injury needs to be monitored.
I think this is somewhat the most realistic type of rebuild I have concluded with. We are in a unique position where we both have to replace most of our key-players but also flesh out the squad. It will take time, and it will be expensive. I don't see us just going out replacing like-for-like, both because the money would the fees would be ridiculous but also I don't really see the players available to make us great again over night. This type of approach to squad building will at least make us competetive again already next season, while setting us up great for the future with a lot of the squad approaching their prime at the same time. In 2 or 3 seasons we might have Gvardiol, Diomande, Baena, Foden, Savinho, Isak, Haaland and Bobb in their absolute prime and they are all world-class elite talent. With Dias, Rodri and Reijnders as elder statesmen still at a good age, and the likes of Hujsen and Etcheverri and whatever other young talent we bring through to push for first team places. Could be another CL winning team that :)
I will try it on FM ;) and maybe giving Pep a fresh project squad of talent might entice him to stay beyond his contract
______________Ortega
Frimpong__Diomande___Dias___Gvardiol
_______Foden__Rodri__Reijnders
______Bobb__Haaland__Isak
In posession and when we have control this would look a bit more modern like most teams set-up, like this:
______________Ortega
_____Diomande_Dias_Gvardiol
__________Rodri___Reijnders
Frimpong__Bobb___Foden__Isak
_____________Haaland
With Gvardiol also pushing up when Isak needs to tuck inside.
Fees is always a bit of a waste of time to predict but I will try. So for the supossed first eleven it would be:
Diomande 40 million ish
Reijnders 50 million, maybe less because of his contract
Frimpong (buy back???) 30 million
Isak 80 million
I'd move out Stones, KdB, Gundogan, Bernardo, Walker and Ederson because they are all too old, most seem intent on leaving. If the interest in Grealish is genuine and we get a high fee for him, especially if his relationship with Guardiola has broken down a bit I am also open to selling him. One of the few we will get a high fee for. Same with Nunes who shluld command an allright fee
The rebuild of the squad as a whole is as important as the first eleven. I'd continue to invest in youth that can grow together:
New young GK (actually no idea who, dislike
Costa)
Akanji -CB/RB
Aké - CB/LB
Dean Hujsen - Young potentially world-class CB, 40 million
Miguel Gutierez - 25 million, very promising left wing-back for rotation. Can get a fair price out of Girona
Kovacic - CM/Crisis DM
Alan Varela - 40 million, Rodri understudy
Lamine Camara - 20 million, CM/CDM Very high potential
Lewis-CM
McAtee - RW, Attacking midfielder
Doku - LW, RW
Savinho- RW, LW
Baena - 50 million release clause, can play left wing and inside left.
Delap - 30 million
New 24 man squad for close to 300 million pounds after two windows. A proper Chelsea transfer strategy, bringing in a lot of youth and potential into the squad. Isak really the only marquee signing that will make waves and be overly expensive. I'd still bring in the likes of Bah. Etcheverri, Pusey and also Perrone is in the plans for the future. But I'd loan them out next season to stake out their development. If Perrone has a good 6 months now on his current loan, maybe he could be a good option next year instead of say Camara.
The rebuild obviously isn't finished already next year. It might even be a transitional season used more for fully developing the side, seeing who is good enough. Beyond next season it might be time to look at moving on Akanji and Ake, with Diomande, Hujsen and Bah hopefully developing nicely.
If the wingers (Bobb, Savinho, Doku) isn't kicking on as they need to, maybe another high-profile signing in the summer 2026. Rodri's state after his injury needs to be monitored.
I think this is somewhat the most realistic type of rebuild I have concluded with. We are in a unique position where we both have to replace most of our key-players but also flesh out the squad. It will take time, and it will be expensive. I don't see us just going out replacing like-for-like, both because the money would the fees would be ridiculous but also I don't really see the players available to make us great again over night. This type of approach to squad building will at least make us competetive again already next season, while setting us up great for the future with a lot of the squad approaching their prime at the same time. In 2 or 3 seasons we might have Gvardiol, Diomande, Baena, Foden, Savinho, Isak, Haaland and Bobb in their absolute prime and they are all world-class elite talent. With Dias, Rodri and Reijnders as elder statesmen still at a good age, and the likes of Hujsen and Etcheverri and whatever other young talent we bring through to push for first team places. Could be another CL winning team that :)
I will try it on FM ;) and maybe giving Pep a fresh project squad of talent might entice him to stay beyond his contract
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