West Ham (H) | PL | Post Match Thread

[vinny123]

Well if someone has said that they aren’t a City fan and should be ashamed
Have they forgotten all the good times these players have given us

"I was sat nearby in 105. The lad shouted something along the lines of, ‘Oi Walker you ****, don’t moan at McAtee that was your fucking fault, you prick… the pass was shit you ****… you’ve been shit for months… driving up and down the country to see all your kids instead of concreting on football, fuck off, you prick’."


whilst i completely condone the way he went about abusing Walker, the actual point he was making and the facts at that moment in time were spot on

Walker despite his previous legend status, right now is a calamity and should be nowhere near the City 11 on the pitch and there are plenty of match going fans who feel the same

 

[Gray]

"I was sat nearby in 105. The lad shouted something along the lines of, ‘Oi Walker you ****, don’t moan at McAtee that was your fucking fault, you prick… the pass was shit you ****… you’ve been shit for months… driving up and down the country to see all your kids instead of concreting on football, fuck off, you prick’."


whilst i completely condone the way he went about abusing Walker, the actual point he was making and the facts at that moment in time were spot on

Walker despite his previous legend status, right now is a calamity and should be nowhere near the City 11 on the pitch and there are plenty of match going fans who feel the same

Your second paragraph does not make sense, something missing between ‘completely’ and ‘condone’.

 

[Sheikh rattle and roll]

"I was sat nearby in 105. The lad shouted something along the lines of, ‘Oi Walker you ****, don’t moan at McAtee that was your fucking fault, you prick… the pass was shit you ****… you’ve been shit for months… driving up and down the country to see all your kids instead of concreting on football, fuck off, you prick’."


whilst i completely condone the way he went about abusing Walker, the actual point he was making and the facts at that moment in time were spot on

Walker despite his previous legend status, right now is a calamity and should be nowhere near the City 11 on the pitch and there are plenty of match going fans who feel the same

I sit in 104 and saw the KDB reaction that’s says something from a normally quiet measured guy
Regardless of his current performances nobody should be called a **** whilst at their place of work
Especially by a so called supporter that’s before I mention Walker being a club stalwart
Some fans forget the 18 trophies and can only remember the last few weeks
I personally hope City track him down and ban him

 

[CPPSC]

I’ve been on one this morning. Apologies all.

You on the naughty step!

 

[asahartford1]

Yes we have major problems in the squad and we are not controlling the game as we did, Injuries and form and players are coming to their sell-by date sadly so we have to get used to teams fancying a bit of us at the moment

Like I said earlier we are not in the title race and we need fixing, So we have to find another way of winning, how many teams have parked the bus and won ugly against us over the years, I have seen City batter teams only for them to score on the break and win the game, Yes better teams will hurt you, but even Pep knows to double up in the midfield holding role and dig in,

The truth is we all knew this was coming and you can not keep winning titles and cups and play in the Champions League for so many years and not have a down period,

The rule changes have stopped us from adding 3 or 4 more world-class players in every window, We uses to have a squad of 25 to rotate and the days of City having a very Good 2nd team on the bench has gone,

But we have all the right people running the club and the right manager in Pep and when Pep hurts we all hurt with him, We will be back and ready for another go in the near future

Especially the last paragraph.
The number of people who say how poor the club is run, after 4 in a row, an incredible academy, wonderful stadium, and Pep astounds me sometimes.

 

[bennyboy]

Play Rico instead of Walker.
He will never receive abuse.
Oh wait.

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

"I was sat nearby in 105. The lad shouted something along the lines of, ‘Oi Walker you ****, don’t moan at McAtee that was your fucking fault, you prick… the pass was shit you ****… you’ve been shit for months… driving up and down the country to see all your kids instead of concreting on football, fuck off, you prick’."


whilst i completely condone the way he went about abusing Walker, the actual point he was making and the facts at that moment in time were spot on

Walker despite his previous legend status, right now is a calamity and should be nowhere near the City 11 on the pitch and there are plenty of match going fans who feel the same

Oi Walker you ****, don’t moan at McAtee that was your fucking fault, you prick… the pass was shit you ****… you’ve been shit for months… driving up and down the country to see all your kids instead of concreting on football, fuck off, you prick

Take those bits out and perfectly legit tbh. For me its the hatred of our own players I dont get. Modern football fans I think, not sure.

I think you mean condemn though

 

[Xhavenjoe]

It's the 3rd time Pep has taken Ake off (rightly managing his minutes) and completely shuffled the defence, when the simple change would be the young CB as a straight swap, and leave the rest as they are

That is the one thing I don't understand with Pep.
If a liverpool or arsenal player gets injured, they bring on a direct replacement.
Trent injured, Bradley or Gomez on.
arsenal take off a forward and bring on Jesus or Trossard.
We take someone off and Pep does a full scale re-enactment of Boris Spassky and Bobby Fischer.

 

[Bluesince1979]

I sit in 104 and saw the KDB reaction that’s says something from a normally quiet measured guy
Regardless of his current performances nobody should be called a **** whilst at their place of work
Especially by a so called supporter that’s before I mention Walker being a club stalwart
Some fans forget the 18 trophies and can only remember the last few weeks
I personally hope City track him down and ban him

Ban him on what grounds?

 

[Dribble]

I agree it was a much better watch, precisely because we moved the ball forward much quicker, got Haaland involved, got Savinho running at defenders and playing early crosses. I didnt see Peps interview but surely he can't think the glacial sideways passes and moronic edge of box tiki taka is better than yesterday.

I really enjoyed the amount of times we just booted it to Haaland rather than try playing suicide ball around our own penalty area. I've never liked this even in previous seasons. I felt we only did it to time waste with the ball and save our players legs for other matches.

I see this as being symptomatic of our current issues. The run we've been on has severely dented our confidence & induces panic. We've always made the odd mistake, but we usually get up, dust ourselves down, regroup & do what City do, but much better. Due to our loss of form which has led to a loss of confidence, even supreme ballers like KDB panicked yesterday, booting the ball clear of immediate danger but straight to the opposition. This isn't the Pep or City way.

Losing one player who knitted together everything we do has caused this, & it's 100% on City that with the hundreds of millions we've banked through recent transfers, that we've neglected to provide competition & cover for our most important player, Rodri.

We are where we are, & rather than trying to play the same system but without Rodders, I'd rather we accept the squad we have fit & available, & return to a 4-3-3 with a flat back 4 & build from there until we find a solution to the Rodri sized hole we've got.

I'll say it again, as well as a return to a 4-3-3 flat back 4, I'd also consider Jack as Rodri's replacement for now. He has the physicality to tackle, get around the pitch & the ability to hold onto the ball & launch attacks from deep. I'd rather see Grealish deployed there than receiving the ball out wide, feigning a take on, but then just playing the ball back or sideways.

It's painful watching an aged Gundog getting bullied at CDM, & Kova not having the defensive nous nor physicality to recover from an upfield raid, leaving us cruelly exposed in defence. We've tried half the team in Rodder's position, & none have come close for varying reasons. I think it's beyond time we try Jack centrally, play with overlapping FB's & allow our most effective wingers to do what they do.

We can't continue to play to Rodri's strengths, without Rodri. We're seeing where this is getting us & we're no longer the sum of our parts.

 

[carlosthejackal]

We were much better upfront than they were though, and that can never be a bad thing ...... okay, West Ham may have created one or two more chances than we did, but they only managed to score a consolation goal near the end, which did them no favours whatsoever ...... City were clinical yesterday, and that made all the difference after the chances we've been missing in recent months.

As long as we are getting maximum points from games, as we have against Leicester and West Ham, then we HAVE to be progressing on some of the pityful City performances that we've been witnessing in the past few months .... i do take your point about our opposition missing chances, but even if our defence was absolutely 'rock solid', what good would it be if we couldn't actually score goals ourselves at the other end????

Fair points but a quality team will punish us big time . Wouldn’t fancy giving Liverpool , Real Madrid etc a two goal lead after ten minutes .

 

[Sheikh rattle and roll]

Ban him on what grounds?

What do you think ?
Foul and abusive language and behaviour
There are children and women in the stand and you think it’s acceptable to scream the word **** at someone ? - seriously!

 

[cleavers]

I think KDB has a bee in his bonnet about something, he’s throwing his arms about a lot, seems to be waving his arms at the crowd, something between him and Pep as well, at half time Pep went on the pitch to him instead of going down the tunnel.

Pep went on the pitch to congratulate him for that goal saving clearance he made a few seconds earlier, not something KdB's noted for, it was a great interception, the ball went behind for a corner but the referee blew the whistle for the end of the half.

 

[Fallingbostel Blue]

in essence Pep is setting us up in a 3- 2 - 5 formation. with the two in midfield both wanting to push forward. it is no wonder we are getting run through week in week out. I have no doubts Pep is a genius but surely he must see we need at least one player to sit and stay in a defensive formation. the other issue with the 2 is that Lewis is also the right back.

 

[Dribble]

danny murphy is a decent analyist.

It was the much maligned Micah Richards who gave the post game analysis... \0/

 

[cleavers]

Zero press or energy

I thought we pressed pretty well yesterday, especially first half, and there was plenty of energy, much more than recently, we were also more direct.

The issue was the defending, for all his good points Savinho needs to up his game defensively, every time West Ham broke he was secinds before he realised he had to get back and support Gvardiol.

The way we attack, we need to have both wide players defend not one. On the other side Foden was doing it with Rico, but they still got behind us, it drags the CB's out, and makes us look a shambles against quick players.

Whilst there were good signs yesterday, all the same defensive issues were on show, had we been playing a more clinical team we could easily have conceded 4 or 5.

At the start of our poor run, it was the attack that was worrying, it wasn't taking easy chances, and the defence were getting caught by quick breaks, yesterday we looked far better going forward, but worse at the back imho, and shuffling the whole defence, because one player is being taken off is imho stupid, and he's done the same switch 3 times now.

 

[Blue Mist]

What do you think ?
Foul and abusive language and behaviour
There are children and women in the stand and you think it’s acceptable to scream the word **** at someone ? - seriously!

I don't agree with shouting abuse at a City player but this is football.
Opposition players get sworn at, the bastard ref regularly receives abuse. I've done it, loads have.
I don't use the C word but I use plenty of others, should I be banned ?

It's football, moments of anger happen. Passions run high. Are we going to sanitise football so much thst we ban supporters fir being passionate!

 

[Txiki Txiki Bang Bang]

"I was sat nearby in 105. The lad shouted something along the lines of, ‘Oi Walker you ****, don’t moan at McAtee that was your fucking fault, you prick… the pass was shit you ****… you’ve been shit for months… driving up and down the country to see all your kids instead of concreting on football, fuck off, you prick’."


whilst i completely condone the way he went about abusing Walker, the actual point he was making and the facts at that moment in time were spot on

Walker despite his previous legend status, right now is a calamity and should be nowhere near the City 11 on the pitch and there are plenty of match going fans who feel the same

No reason for that. Totally unacceptable

 

[B\connellblue]

What do you think ?
Foul and abusive language and behaviour
There are children and women in the stand and you think it’s acceptable to scream the word **** at someone ? - seriously!

Doesnt seem to be a problem calling someone a **** on here.

 

[cleavers]

Take the first halves against Sporting and Brighton. We were miles better then than we have been in the last two wins.

Putting the ball in the net makes the world of difference.

Agreed, even against spurs we played better, and probably should have been 2 up before they scored with their first attack. We had 23 shots to 9 in that game and managed to let 4 of those in.