10 | Jack Grealish - 2024/25

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kaz7 said:
We were there , there is no need to keep repeating yourself every post , some players divide more than others , the raz threads were awful. Grealish costed a record hundred million pounds , he has been terrible for eighteen months , we are past talking about the treble and are where we are. Even his ardent supporters think he needs to leave. Just you left dying on this hill now. If we cant talk about our record signing then who can we talk about? Was he worth the money ? No

You are avoiding talking about the last eighteen months, why?
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The thread title is performance 2024/25 season. The first 3 posts I responded to a couple of days ago were slating Grealish over the last 2.5/3 years. Firstly on this then, the natural periods to look at are either Grealish's performances over the whole time he has been here or in the 2024/25 season. What is disgraceful is for so called City fans to pick an arbitrary period of the last 12/18 months so they can shoehorn a reference in that Grealish hasn't scored in the last year - that's getting in to enemy within territory. And were these same City fans slating Savinho 2/3 weeks ago?

If it's this season that is to be looked at, then Grealish has started 1 Premier League defeat which I don't think warrants the MASSIVE epic meltdown of this thread with it's 285 pages which has more than 4 times the pages of the Akanji, Ake and Dias threads combined.

The haters are totally fixated on the £100m fee but who has been a more successful £100m player than Grealish? That's in real life and not fantasy football land.

And what the haters don't realise is that you cannot beat hindsight and they are desperately trying to rail against it. With Grealish signed and in the side the treble was won and 4 in a row was secured and that is a factual statement. And that isn't me saying Grealish won it all on his own as certain posters seem to want to twist. If instead player X was signed for the £100m then there is absolutely no guarantee the treble and/or 4 in a row would be secured.

So if we now go back to August 2021 and whether I'd sign Grealish for £100m then the answer is every fucking day of the week because that means the treble and 4 in a row are secured. If instead the £100m was spent on another player then what is the probability of the treble and 4 in a row being secured? Because it isn't 100%. So with the choice or Grealish being signed and the treble and 4 in a row being 100% secured or another player being bought for £100m with the treble and and 4 in a row not being guaranteed, then why wouldn't any City fan choose the Grealish signing?

As to whether Grealish was worth the money. What value do you put on the treble? What value do you put on 4 in a row? (and with respect with you again mentioning the last 18 months, you don't seem to get the significance of winning 4 English League titles in a row for the first time in the history of English football). I think the treble's worth £100m. And I think 4 in a row's worth £100m. So for me, Grealish was cheap at half the price.

So sliding doors moment, if you could go back to August 2021 in a time machine, would you sign Grealish for £100m? And if not, why not?
 
FromPollockToSilva said:
Saw that exactly the same way you did
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Hopefully it was more a case of reminding himself not to put too much strain on his hamstring when the game was already won, or maybe bemoaning that in his first match back for a while he doesn't know if he can trust his hamstring to handle a late sprint. Rather than pain or discomfort which could indicate an injury that has him unavailable again.
 
Obviously much better last night, if there is a way he can consistently play like that in midfield then it's the best way forward for all parties.
 
Metal Biker said:
Because City regularly win 8-0 against premier league opposition don't we...

He played well, he did his role, got assists, won a penalty, which he scored. Isn't that enough?
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Jacks played really well is a couple of marks below other players really well.
A 6 out of 10 is not playing really well.
 
The number of times he gets the ball and hacked or pulled down is outrageous. Refs definitely turn a blind eye with his opponents and he should be given more protection and yellows dished out quicker.
 
I thought he played pretty well, like most others. There is clearly an issue with his fitness and Pep doesn't call players out for fun. I like Jack, I couldn't give a stuff about how much he cost and wish him well wether he stays or goes. I think it most likely that we will look to move him on in the summer unless there is a sustained recovery of his best form. Doku and Savinho are pretty much nailed on our first choice wide players now.
 
Luddite_Blue said:
There seems to be a real lack of appreciation of the significance of clinching a historic 4th title in a row, so I wouldn't be digging out neither an academy graduate nor a new signing in their first season.
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Not quite sure what the 4th title has to do with my comment, but…moving on…
 
Paulmcfc2703 said:
He was part of the team that won us the UCL. Surely you don't think he's the main reason we won it.
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Well he wasn't but he was one of the first names on the team sheet towards the end of the treble season. Started in all the biggest games, finals , rested when required to save him for a bigger task, so Pep clearly needed him. That was his best spell with us.

I guess that's the frustrating part for some people because he is capable, we've just not seen it nearly enough.
 
GoatersLeftShin said:
The number of times he gets the ball and hacked or pulled down is outrageous. Refs definitely turn a blind eye with his opponents and he should be given more protection and yellows dished out quicker.
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He's always gone to ground far too easily, some on here state it as one of his biggest 'assets' , can't blame refs for thinking he's diving or making the most of fouls, even when he's not.
 
bluemoon32 said:
He's always gone to ground far too easily, some on here state it as one of his biggest 'assets' , can't blame refs for thinking he's diving or making the most of fouls, even when he's not.
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His fan boys clutch at any straw they can to big Grealish up, they simply can't accept criticism, even though most of it justified. Some of his fan boys think Jack drawing getting fouled to gain a free kick is an attribute, lol. Some say he when he's on the ball he leaves spaces for other players to exploit, this is partly true but Grealish shouldn't play his game to be a stool pigeon. He should play yo try and beat a man and whip in a cross, or cut inside to shoot yet he rarely does it.

Graham Souness saw his flaws before most of us did and I'm not arguing with his opinion.

I've been critical yet again. Oops, I must be a hater. Lol.
 
DMA's said:
So as it turns out pep doesn’t ask jack to not assist or score? Weird.

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And yet guardiola has come out and specifically said the complete opposite about grealish directly before. That above comment is about the squad as a whole in its current state not just one player and not there to be used as a knife to stick in when a player is down in a football argument or agenda. Fact is pep has been more than happy with Grealishs contribution in the past and jumped to his defence but isn't happy with his contribution now (which is completely valid).
 
ChicagoBlue said:
Not quite sure what the 4th title has to do with my comment, but…moving on…
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Given your comment replied to a comment mentioning the 4th title in a row and used the word 'sycophant' in relation to anyone who was supportive of 2 of the other squad members, I think its perfectly valid to ask if you appreciate the significance of winning 4 titles in a row.
 
BlueMoonRisin’ said:
His fan boys clutch at any straw they can to big Grealish up, they simply can't accept criticism, even though most of it justified. Some of his fan boys think Jack drawing getting fouled to gain a free kick is an attribute, lol. Some say he when he's on the ball he leaves spaces for other players to exploit, this is partly true but Grealish shouldn't play his game to be a stool pigeon. He should play yo try and beat a man and whip in a cross, or cut inside to shoot yet he rarely does it.

Graham Souness saw his flaws before most of us did and I'm not arguing with his opinion.

I've been critical yet again. Oops, I must be a hater. Lol.
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Like a moth to a flame.

In the current circumstances of aging midfielders, an injury crisis and a real lack of running power in midfield, the fantasy football fans want to turn the match into a basketball game. They must have sold the City defenders from their fantasy teams. And btw I hope you don't have any fucking rag cunts in your fantasy teams, you've got to be better than that.

Graeme Souness an average manager 25 years ago or Pep Guardiola? Hmmm, whose judgement am I going to back?

And what did Souness win as a manager by releasing the ball quickly? Have you forgotten already what MCFC with Jack Grealish featuring have won?
 
bluemoon32 said:
He's always gone to ground far too easily, some on here state it as one of his biggest 'assets' , can't blame refs for thinking he's diving or making the most of fouls, even when he's not.
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Whether or not he's good enough be argued about, but the guy gets kicked to death. Feel like Eden Hazard used to similarly get accused of going to ground too easily when the truth was he was just fouled a lot.
 
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Luddite_Blue said:
Like a moth to a flame.

In the current circumstances of aging midfielders, an injury crisis and a real lack of running power in midfield, the fantasy football fans want to turn the match into a basketball game. They must have sold the City defenders from their fantasy teams. And btw I hope you don't have any fucking rag cunts in your fantasy teams, you've got to be better than that.

Graeme Souness an average manager 25 years ago or Pep Guardiola? Hmmm, whose judgement am I going to back?

And what did Souness win as a manager by releasing the ball quickly? Have you forgotten already what MCFC with Jack Grealish featuring have won?
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Souness was one of the greatest midfielders this country has seen. His opinion is worth hearing. He was spot on about Pogba for starters.
 
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