24 | Joško Gvardiol - 2024/25

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Him and Akanji don’t sense danger. I’ll give Gvardiol the benefit of the doubt he’s younger but needs to improve.
 
I like him he is a star already and only going to improve, but the excuses for his concentration lapses on here are bordering depserate, Laporte all over again, liked by blue moon so gets away with poor decision making.


His header yesterday straight to their wide player allowed the cross to come in. In the 92nd minute you direct any clearance to dead space not dangerpis areas, doesn't help that Akanji bottled the header though once it came in.

Feel only Ake and Dias are taking defending seriously this season
 
urban genie said:
Feel only Ake and Dias are taking defending seriously this season
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This. Mistakes can always happen, but the lack of serious defending by the likes of Walker, Lewis, Akanji and Gvardiol has been a huge problem.
Can’t really include Stones as we never see him.
 
Never in a million years is this guy gonna be good enough at the back and his few goals are masking over 2 seasons if absolutely rubbish defending . Remember he cost us £85 million .
 
Paul1970 said:
Never in a million years is this guy gonna be good enough at the back and his few goals are masking over 2 seasons if absolutely rubbish defending . Remember he cost us £85 million .
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He was one of our best players yesterday, what are you on about. That's what Pep said as well.
 
Haaland94 said:
He was one of our best players yesterday, what are you on about. That's what Pep said as well.
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His defending is shocking mate . His forward play is good and he scores sone goals but his reading of the game at the back is like schoolboy stuff and I’m not being funny but atm pep is just doing lip service with half of these players . Maybe he cones good or maybe he could be moved into midfield as seems more effective going forward but every time a team player runs at him it’s like Russian roulette . You have your opinion and I have mine mate .
 
I thought Gvardiol was really good last night. He was really progressive with his play, created quite a lot of good attacking situations and is always available for a pass.

Defensively he was miles better than some previous games where his confidence has been low due to being a 22 year old out of form who’s expected to lead the line at the back in a team playing terribly.

His effort to get back and tackle Wissa when he started 10 yards behind him, was one of the moments of the match.
 
Paul1970 said:
Never in a million years is this guy gonna be good enough at the back and his few goals are masking over 2 seasons if absolutely rubbish defending . Remember he cost us £85 million .
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remember? you are wrong, check your facts, city did not pay that amount for him. but the higher the price the higher the pile on i guess.
 
urban genie said:
I like him he is a star already and only going to improve, but the excuses for his concentration lapses on here are bordering depserate, Laporte all over again, liked by blue moon so gets away with poor decision making.


His header yesterday straight to their wide player allowed the cross to come in. In the 92nd minute you direct any clearance to dead space not dangerpis areas, doesn't help that Akanji bottled the header though once it came in.

Feel only Ake and Dias are taking defending seriously this season
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liked by blue moon? gets away with stuff? seriously? liked????? ahahhahahahah
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
I thought Gvardiol was really good last night. He was really progressive with his play, created quite a lot of good attacking situations and is always available for a pass.

Defensively he was miles better than some previous games where his confidence has been low due to being a 22 year old out of form who’s expected to lead the line at the back in a team playing terribly.

His effort to get back and tackle Wissa when he started 10 yards behind him, was one of the moments of the match.
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yeah that was top - but we shouldn't ignore that he has fucked up the ball upfront and was being responsible for the break. He knew exactly, you could see it in his reaction.

For me he is not focused enough, he has a terrible sense for positioning as a CB/LCB and he tends to act like a headless chicken.

I agree he didn't get enough help by Savinho (who kindly invited his man to cross for the equalizer, although we KNEW we have huge problems defending our box, wtf!!)
but still that doesn't excuse Josko's poor positioning.

Needs more calmness, maybe the time is on his side.
 
Needs to put pressure on the player crossing the ball. At the mo he just stands ten foot away with his hands behind his back. It seems to be a common issue throughout the team.
 
jonmcity said:
Needs to put pressure on the player crossing the ball. At the mo he just stands ten foot away with his hands behind his back. It seems to be a common issue throughout the team.
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That's not a gvardiol problem, that's what happens when you play our systems.

When we have inverted defenders, it means we are never in shape as a back 4 out of possession and so it becomes a narrow 3 and the rest thay bother to get back end up ball chasing instead of getting into shape and it becomes this chaotic defending we see every single week.

We'll also throw the front 4 into a pointless high press that wipes them all out of the game with one effortless pass and then allows their fullbacks to bomb on unchecked and create overloads out wide that we can't match up against.

Allowing crosses to come in unchallenged is a big issue but it's not as simple as the fullbacks need to get tighter, the whole system is fucked.
 
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