President Trump

Blue Maverick said:
I know exactly what they do
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OK
Blue Maverick said:
My iPhone 11 does exactly what a brand new one does I don’t pay those stupid prices btw, I’m no fool.
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So, I retract the OK above after showing me that you do NOT understand what you’re saying in the first comment above.

And, while I’m glad you’re no fool, there are not that many people who do have to pay for their new phones…at least in America…because your mobile provider will give you credit for your old phone to trade up, then write off the difference between credit for the old phone and cost of the new phone over the next 24 month period. Ask me how I know that as I type on my new iPhone 16 Pro.

Now, I use T-Mobile because not only is the service good, but I get free 5Gigs of high speed data per day overseas, and discounts on products and services I use every Tuesday, too, all while operating on a 4 line plan subsidized by my company discount.

P.S. Apple stopped updating the iOS for phones older than iPhone 14 with the advent of the iPhone 16 and iOS 18.

P.P.S. For further reading:

Apple is actively shifting a significant portion of its iPhone production from China to India, aiming to diversify its supply chain and reduce reliance on China by manufacturing a substantial percentage of its iPhones in India, particularly newer models, as part of a strategy to lessen dependence on Chinese manufacturing facilities; this move is driven by factors like geopolitical tensions and India's growing manufacturing capabilities.

Key points about Apple's shift to India:
  • Increased production in India:
    Apple is ramping up iPhone production in India, with reports indicating that a significant portion of new iPhone models, including high-end Pro versions, are now being manufactured there.

  • Early manufacturing stages in India:
    Apple is even starting the initial "New Product Introduction" (NPI) phase for new iPhones in India, which is traditionally done in China, signifying a major shift in their manufacturing strategy.

  • Foxconn's role:
    Foxconn, a major Apple supplier, is expanding its Indian operations to facilitate this production shift.

  • Reasons for the move:
    Factors like supply chain disruptions due to China's COVID policies, geopolitical concerns, and India's government support for manufacturing are driving Apple to increase its Indian production.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
OK


So, I retract the OK above after showing me that you do NOT understand what you’re saying in the first comment above.

And, while I’m glad you’re no fool, there are not that many people who do have to pay for their new phones…at least in America…because your mobile provider will give you credit for your old phone to trade up, then write off the difference between credit for the old phone and cost of the new phone over the next 24 month period. Ask me how I know that as I type on my new iPhone 16 Pro.

Now, I use T-Mobile because not only is the service good, but I get free 5Gigs of high speed data per day overseas, and discounts on products and services I use every Tuesday, too, all while operating on a 4 line plan subsidized by my company discount.

P.S. Apple stopped updating the iOS for phones older than iPhone 14 with the advent of the iPhone 16 and iOS 18.

P.P.S. For further reading:

Apple is actively shifting a significant portion of its iPhone production from China to India, aiming to diversify its supply chain and reduce reliance on China by manufacturing a substantial percentage of its iPhones in India, particularly newer models, as part of a strategy to lessen dependence on Chinese manufacturing facilities; this move is driven by factors like geopolitical tensions and India's growing manufacturing capabilities.

Key points about Apple's shift to India:
  • Increased production in India:
    Apple is ramping up iPhone production in India, with reports indicating that a significant portion of new iPhone models, including high-end Pro versions, are now being manufactured there.

  • Early manufacturing stages in India:
    Apple is even starting the initial "New Product Introduction" (NPI) phase for new iPhones in India, which is traditionally done in China, signifying a major shift in their manufacturing strategy.

  • Foxconn's role:
    Foxconn, a major Apple supplier, is expanding its Indian operations to facilitate this production shift.

  • Reasons for the move:
    Factors like supply chain disruptions due to China's COVID policies, geopolitical concerns, and India's government support for manufacturing are driving Apple to increase its Indian production.
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So when your provider has to pay more for that phone are you telling me they won’t pass that cost on? Nearly 90% of the components come from outside USA, they can be manufactured wherever you want, if Trump decides to tariff that country cost goes up. I Type this on my iPhone 11 whilst it’s on the latest update of iOS 18.2.1 by the way.
 
MillionMilesAway said:
Um, what?

"It is my honor to announce Jon Voight, Mel Gibson, and Sylvester Stallone, to be Special Ambassadors to a great but very troubled place, Hollywood, California. They will serve as Special Envoys to me for the purpose of bringing Hollywood, which has lost much business over the last four years to Foreign Countries, BACK—BIGGER, BETTER, AND STRONGER THAN EVER BEFORE! These three very talented people will be my eyes and ears, and I will get done what they suggest. It will again be, like The United States of America itself, The Golden Age of Hollywood!"

Can he appoint an envoy from somewhere to him?
Voight's even more ancient than Trump.
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Disappointed to see Stallone in that list
 
Blue Maverick said:
So when your provider has to pay more for that phone are you telling me they won’t pass that cost on? Nearly 90% of the components come from outside USA, they can be manufactured wherever you want, if Trump decides to tariff that country cost goes up. I Type this on my iPhone 11 whilst it’s on the latest update of iOS 18.2.1 by the way.
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Excellent work. The problem is your phone won’t do half the things 18 can do.

And, I guess you haven’t seen the phone companies over here competing their asses off for new customers? You can say the mobile company is passing on the cost, but if I’m paying for a plan that doesn’t have to give you a new phone, but I get 4 on my family plan…then get a company discount on top of that…then where is the pass thru cost to me?!
 
ChicagoBlue said:
Excellent work. The problem is your phone won’t do half the things 18 can do.

And, I guess you haven’t seen the phone companies over here competing their asses off for new customers? You can say the mobile company is passing on the cost, but if I’m paying for a plan that doesn’t have to give you a new phone, but I get 4 on my family plan…then get a company discount on top of that…then where is the pass thru cost to me?!
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Is relying on "my phone is better than your phone" a sound basis upon which to run the economy?
If people can't afford shiny new things then they will stop buying them, surely?
 
DrBlueBob said:
Is relying on "my phone is better than your phone" a sound basis upon which to run the economy?
If people can't afford shiny new things then they will stop buying them, surely?
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Absolutely. But, I take offense when someone makes false claims when I just got 4 brand new phones for $0 over the next 24 months.

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The iPhone 11 and iPhone 16 differ significantly in performance, camera capabilities, and display technology.

• Processor: The iPhone 11 features the A13 Bionic chip, while the iPhone 16 is powered by the A18 chip, offering enhanced speed and efficiency.

• Camera: The iPhone 16 boasts a more advanced camera system with a 48MP main sensor and features like Cinematic mode, compared to the iPhone 11’s dual 12MP setup.

• Display: The iPhone 11 has a Liquid Retina IPS LCD, whereas the iPhone 16 uses a superior OLED display, providing better color accuracy and brightness.

Overall, the iPhone 16 represents a substantial upgrade over the iPhone 11.

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How about running iOS 18 on an 11 vs a 16?

The iPhone 11 can run iOS 18.

However, while it will receive many features like a redesigned Control Center and updates to Messages, it won’t support some advanced functionalities exclusive to newer models, such as Apple Intelligence features and Messages via Satellite.

Overall, iPhone 11 users will still benefit from significant updates but may miss out on the latest innovations available on the iPhone 15 series and beyond.

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The defense rests.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
Excellent work. The problem is your phone won’t do half the things 18 can do.

And, I guess you haven’t seen the phone companies over here competing their asses off for new customers? You can say the mobile company is passing on the cost, but if I’m paying for a plan that doesn’t have to give you a new phone, but I get 4 on my family plan…then get a company discount on top of that…then where is the pass thru cost to me?!
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What does your phone do that mine doesn’t that I need?
Phonecalls
Text messages
Whatsapp
Photos,
Internet access
Banking apps
Can your eyes really distinguish the difference that much on the screen you really need it?
Do I need anything else? Not sure I do unless you’re buying into some advertising stuff that you dont really need. Sounds like you have a great deal over there and that basically you get everything for free and the companies are all paying for it out the goodness of their heart, but someone is paying for it somewhere and when those tariffs increase and that cost is passed on they won’t gobble all that cost up, of course they are competing because I would think the market is saturated with phones, I’ve no need to pay £50-70 a month for a new phone, when my I pay £5!
The £1000 iPhone 16 equivalent offers me fuck all extra compared to a 5 year old phone, and as the cost of living is showing people are already cutting back, you have already stated you are subsidized by your company, when cost increase will your company continue those subsides? im on about normal people who don’t have that facility, would you go and buy 4 phones if you didn’t have that facility, so $4k for the phones then next year tariffs come in so that’s probably $5k now?
As for your answer about performance comparisons etc do I really need all that do I need AI, do I balls I can manage perfectly well without it, but glad you admitted you were wrong on what iOS my phone was on, oh wait you didn’t.
Just a quick Google of T-Mobile plans, all I can see there is someone paying $35 a month over two years for a phone and contract, well that’s not free is it? Like the uk you are paying for the phone the actually tariff for the carrier would be a small part, like here I pay £5 a month.
 
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Blue Maverick said:
What does your phone do that mine doesn’t that I need?
Phonecalls
Text messages
Whatsapp
Photos,
Internet access
Banking apps
Can your eyes really distinguish the difference that much on the screen you really need it?
Do I need anything else? Not sure I do unless you’re buying into some advertising stuff that you dont really need. Sounds like you have a great deal over there and that basically you get everything for free and the companies are all paying for it out the goodness of their heart, but someone is paying for it somewhere and when those tariffs increase and that cost is passed on they won’t gobble all that cost up, of course they are competing because I would think the market is saturated with phones, I’ve no need to pay £50-70 a month for a new phone, when my I pay £5!
The £1000 iPhone 16 equivalent offers me fuck all extra compared to a 5 year old phone, and as the cost of living is showing people are already cutting back, you have already stated you are subsidized by your company, when cost increase will your company continue those subsides? im on about normal people who don’t have that facility, would you go and buy 4 phones if you didn’t have that facility, so $4k for the phones then next year tariffs come in so that’s probably $5k now?
As for your answer about performance comparisons etc do I really need all that do I need AI, do I balls I can manage perfectly well without it, but glad you admitted you were wrong on what iOS my phone was on, oh wait you didn’t.
Just a quick Google of T-Mobile plans, all I can see there is someone paying $35 a month over two years for a phone and contract, well that’s not free is it? Like the uk you are paying for the phone the actually tariff for the carrier would be a small part, like here I pay £5 a month.
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Some people drive Porsches and some people drive Pandas. They both go from A to B. Bravo.

I honestly couldn’t care less what phone you have, want or need, but the facts do matter.

Is a $1,000 a luxury item? Yes.
Can everyone afford one? No.

And….?

As for the notion of iPhone sales running the economy, I’m not sure what to say?!
 
ChicagoBlue said:
Some people drive Porsches and some people drive Pandas. They both go from A to B. Bravo.

I honestly couldn’t care less what phone you have, want or need, but the facts do matter.

Is a $1,000 a luxury item? Yes.
Can everyone afford one? No.

And….?

As for the notion of iPhone sales running the economy, I’m not sure what to say?!
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I think the argument is, people have budgets. Some people can afford 1 grand phones, a lot if people can only afford 200 dollar phones, if them 200 dollar phone suddenly become 250 dollar phones, alot of people just can't buy them.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Statistically I’d say that was more likely than not given his lifestyle and age, although he’ll have the best medical care and advice possible I guess.
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He'll lgnore any doctors advice. I have this image of a defib being carried everywhere he goes to restart him like jump starting a car during a speech.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
Absolutely. But, I take offense when someone makes false claims when I just got 4 brand new phones for $0 over the next 24 months.

-/-/-/-/-

The iPhone 11 and iPhone 16 differ significantly in performance, camera capabilities, and display technology.

• Processor: The iPhone 11 features the A13 Bionic chip, while the iPhone 16 is powered by the A18 chip, offering enhanced speed and efficiency.

• Camera: The iPhone 16 boasts a more advanced camera system with a 48MP main sensor and features like Cinematic mode, compared to the iPhone 11’s dual 12MP setup.

• Display: The iPhone 11 has a Liquid Retina IPS LCD, whereas the iPhone 16 uses a superior OLED display, providing better color accuracy and brightness.

Overall, the iPhone 16 represents a substantial upgrade over the iPhone 11.

-/-/-/-/-

How about running iOS 18 on an 11 vs a 16?

The iPhone 11 can run iOS 18.

However, while it will receive many features like a redesigned Control Center and updates to Messages, it won’t support some advanced functionalities exclusive to newer models, such as Apple Intelligence features and Messages via Satellite.

Overall, iPhone 11 users will still benefit from significant updates but may miss out on the latest innovations available on the iPhone 15 series and beyond.

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The defense rests.
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You sound like your a lot of fun at parties. I'm sure that your economic assessment is sound though.
 
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