President Trump

BTH said:
This gets sadder by the minute... Cowards emboldened by the biggest coward of them all.
And, before the right-wing crackpots on here say it, yes it was in the Communist/vegan/woke/LGBTQ+/tree-hugging/sandal-wearing/environment-loving Guardian. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jan/22/kkk-immigrants-flyers-kentucky
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Same as the asswipes who banged on my LGBTQ kid's dorm room door at 5 AM the night after the election screaming, "Trump won, you dyke." That's the fear -- emboldening and normalizing this kind of behavio(u)r. The nation's already done it with guns.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
Do you think he has a “mandate” to do every bat shit crazy thing he ever said on the stump?

Do you think every vote he earned was because every voter wanted every thing he said?

What world do you live in?!
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Okay then, let me see if I can get this straight, what Trump said during the election campaign doesn't give him a mandate, and every vote he got was not in fact an endorsement of what he said he'd do, so consequently, even though he's President coz he won the election, his political capital is worth shit and he might as well stay on the golf course.

Have I got that right?
 
Trevor Morley's Tache said:
Why sugar coat the brutal reality of what's happening right now?
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The brutal reality is a huge chunk of people have voted for a right wing charlatan, whether he's full blown fascist we shall see. The American system has checks and balances but I don't think it was ever designed for someone like Trump.

There's no point lambasting the electorate one has, which is what you did, you have to fashion a more compelling message which addresses their real concerns, expose the snake oil shit that Trump sells. I posted earlier about a bit of introspection, I would suggest that's the first thing the American left should engage in. All I see so far is a purity contest on the fringes and as you were from the Democrat gerontocracy.

In the end figures like Trump need defeating at the ballot box, denigrating his supporters get you precisely nowhere.
 
The perfect fumble said:
The brutal reality is a huge chunk of people have voted for a right wing charlatan, whether he's full blown fascist we shall see. The American system has checks and balances but I don't think it was ever designed for someone like Trump.

There's no point lambasting the electorate one has, which is what you did, you have to fashion a more compelling message which addresses their real concerns, expose the snake oil shit that Trump sells. I posted earlier about a bit of introspection, I would suggest that's the first thing the American left should engage in. All I see so far is a purity contest on the fringes and as you were from the Democrat gerontocracy.

In the end figures like Trump need defeating at the ballot box, denigrating his supporters get you precisely nowhere.
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I think the next 4 years will allow Trump to expose his snake oil sales business for himself
 
The perfect fumble said:
The brutal reality is a huge chunk of people have voted for a right wing charlatan, whether he's full blown fascist we shall see. The American system has checks and balances but I don't think it was ever designed for someone like Trump.
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It wasn’t designed for the steam engine, electricity, the typewriter or automatic weapons either.
 
I suspect trump and his ilk becoming more popular tbh. He seems to be doing (some things) that are very popular and very anti-msm which I think a lot of people are fed up with anyway.

I am no supporter of his and his politics will only lead to bad things. Tbh I'm watching chainsaw wielding Mileu in Argentina to see/guess what's going to happen next with this modern, anti-msm, populist style.
 
The perfect fumble said:
The brutal reality is a huge chunk of people have voted for a right wing charlatan, whether he's full blown fascist we shall see. The American system has checks and balances but I don't think it was ever designed for someone like Trump.

There's no point lambasting the electorate one has, which is what you did, you have to fashion a more compelling message which addresses their real concerns, expose the snake oil shit that Trump sells. I posted earlier about a bit of introspection, I would suggest that's the first thing the American left should engage in. All I see so far is a purity contest on the fringes and as you were from the Democrat gerontocracy.

In the end figures like Trump need defeating at the ballot box, denigrating his supporters get you precisely nowhere.
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What is a more compelling message than "All your problems are the other side's fault and I will fix them instantly and without pain to you while making sure those you hate and fear suffer?"

If you have the moral apathy to craft such a message just to win, that cannot be combatted until the 1) consequences of electing such a person are made clear to those who supported him, and they stop supporting him or 2) you are willing to get down in dirt and craft exactly the same message, which those with moral decency won't do.

Herein lies the problem and why Democrats are in complete despair -- because number 1 happened in 2020, and after defecating on election integrity without evidence, THEN Trump attempted to foment a coup.

So one would think that such actions after already rejecting him democratically would translate into a "never again" approach by the voting populace. Isn't that logical?

But it didn't.

In fact an even larger group bought the same line all over again, even after his post-electoral actions proved him unwilling to step down peaceably until his options were exhausted.

Now I am already on record saying Biden should have announced he was a one-term President after he won or, at the latest, after the mid-terms. And I said so then, so this isn't hindsight, and maybe that's the, or a, problem.

But it has nothing to do with "introspection". When the other side is willing to do and say whatever it can to win, regardless of consequences, you must of needs rely on the populace to see that as a leadership failing. And not enough of the populace could. And in fact, many embraced this approach.

How can you not denigrate (some of) them?
 
FogBlueInSanFran said:
Same as the asswipes who banged on my LGBTQ kid's dorm room door at 5 AM the night after the election screaming, "Trump won, you dyke." That's the fear -- emboldening and normalizing this kind of behavio(u)r. The nation's already done it with guns.
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That's tasteful.

I don't understand the uncorked hatred being displayed - especially within youths (take it they are at Uni)?

Hope they're keeping alright and not getting too much grief Foggy...........
 
ChicagoBlue said:
You need to catch up, mate. The world (and the law!) shifted dramatically while you were sleeping!
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She lurched from one wrong decision to another. What is her job now? If she was any good she'd still be in a position of power. The DEI gravytrain is over thankfully

Didn't she send mothers to prison for not attending school regardless of the reasons?
 
Gorton_Tubster said:
I suspect trump and his ilk becoming more popular tbh. He seems to be doing (some things) that are very popular and very anti-msm which I think a lot of people are fed up with anyway.

I am no supporter of his and his politics will only lead to bad things. Tbh I'm watching chainsaw wielding Mileu in Argentina to see/guess what's going to happen next with this modern, anti-msm, populist style.
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Trump's economic policies aren't worth shit for ordinary Americans but the Democrats offered next to nothing that was different, it was all timid little less shit and a few more crumbs off the table, they offered nothing but more of the same.

What is galling is the Democrats accuse Trump of playing the race card, appealing to the white working poor by playing the blame game, setting one group against another. Well what the fuck is critical race theory, intersectionality and DEI but divisive bullshit?
 
The perfect fumble said:
Trump's economic policies aren't worth shit for ordinary Americans but the Democrats offered next to nothing that was different, it was all timid little less shit and a few more crumbs off the table, they offered nothing but more of the same.

What is galling is the Democrats accuse Trump of playing the race card, appealing to the white working poor by playing the blame game, setting one group against another. Well what the fuck is critical race theory, intersectionality and DEI but divisive bullshit?
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Yeah I see the same shit but nicer on the left. For me, the DEI stuff, Critical Race Theory, its the same as the Sportswashing rubbish, people who pretend to care about the plight of the world when actually all they want is to win the political battle.

Given choice though I would rather have the people who at least pretend to care rather than those that obvs just dont.
 
The perfect fumble said:
'Trump's economic policies aren't worth shit for ordinary Americans but the Democrats offered next to nothing that was different, it was all timid little less shit and a few more crumbs off the table, they offered nothing but more of the same.

What is galling is the Democrats accuse Trump of playing the race card, appealing to the white working poor by playing the blame game, setting one group against another. Well what the fuck is critical race theory, intersectionality and DEI but divisive bullshit?
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So just accept the inequalities then? Accept racism, sexism, and anything else that doesn't fit in with a 1950's vision of what a working class individual should look like.

Whilst I agree that some people have taken the current rules to extremes, the rules were certainly better for working people and everyday folk than they ever were. So, sure lets go back to the 1950's. But ask yourself this. Who benefits?
 
Trevor Morley's Tache said:
So just accept the inequalities then? Accept racism, sexism, and anything else that doesn't fit in with a 1950's vision of what a working class individual should look like.

Whilst I agree that some people have taken the current rules to extremes, the rules were certainly better for working people and everyday folk than they ever were. So, sure lets go back to the 1950's. But ask yourself this. Who benefits?
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That's a false dichotomy, it's not critical race theory, intersectionality and DEI on one hand and Jim Crow, 1950s on the other.

I would suggest that critical race theory, intersectionality and DEI exacerbates racial conflict by making everything about race.
 
The perfect fumble said:
Okay then, let me see if I can get this straight, what Trump said during the election campaign doesn't give him a mandate, and every vote he got was not in fact an endorsement of what he said he'd do, so consequently, even though he's President coz he won the election, his political capital is worth shit and he might as well stay on the golf course.

Have I got that right?
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Is English your second language?

What the fuck is wrong with some of you?
 
The perfect fumble said:
That's a false dichotomy, it's not critical race theory, intersectionality and DEI on one hand and Jim Crow, 1950s on the other.

I would suggest that critical race theory, intersectionality and DEI exacerbates racial conflict by making everything about race.
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The term 'DEI hire' is routinely being weaponised in order to hide a whole manner of prejudices.
 
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