Andy Burnham | Manchester Mayor

BufordUSABlue said:
Adds fuel to the rumor going around over here, that the Rags will not play in Florida. As that heinous club and its rancid players would all see for themselves, the state of the art facilities that the Tampa Bucs have! Doesn't take much i know, but it would put the Trafford Toilet to absolute shame!
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I guess the Florida tax payers have had to foot the bill.
 
jrb said:
Manchester Mayor Andy Burnham admits he is at risk of alienating City supporters amid his involvement in plans to regenerate Old Trafford.

Aintree-born Burnham attended memorials for Sir Bobby Charlton and the anniversary of the Munich air disaster at Old Trafford in recent months. "There are always risks for me in this scenario," Burnham said. "There are risks as an Evertonian being Greater Manchester Mayor.

"Yes, there are those risks but I have supported City and the city region has supported Manchester City and they have put a lot of funding into East Manchester and that should be recognised.

“The wider development around the Etihad is unbelievable. You think of the public money that created the stadium in that instance but they have sunk a lot of money into the facilities around that ground. That area is utterly transformed from the place I remember when I was growing up in these parts.

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Manchester Mayor Burnham addresses risk with City fans over United stadium role

Andy Burnham is now a member of the Old Trafford stadium regeneration task force as Man United seek funds for a new stadium.
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Hes done really well to be born in AINTREE and remember what the area where citys ground is used to be like, I grew up in collyhurst and was around that area all the time but I'd be fucked if I can remember what it was like where citys ground is now,
 
Are people saying they’re happy with the shit trains in Manchester? I just don’t see why there’s so much fuss over this myself as long as it is just assistance in moving the terminals. The money wouldn’t go to the rags, it would be the freight owners selling their land to the rags and then they buy land at Newton-le-Willows. God knows the rags are shit at negotiating a fair price for anything they’ll mess that up too.

I just hope the rags don’t decide to build a new stadium in Newton Heath instead, not that I think there’s enough suitable room there.
 
Jam Tomorrow said:
You’ve hit the nail on the head. The cost of building over the railway line would cost at least £500m and probably closer to a billion knowing how major infrastructure projects overrun. Hence if the government do the heavy lifting of moving the train line in its entirety that would cost the tax payers billions in order to save the rags a huge wad of money. All the BS about jobs and better train routes is just flannel, this is about getting the rags favourable conditions to build a new stadium. Oh and Burnham should keep his gob shut about City especially when spouting half truths.
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They’re not talking about moving train lines.
 
dickie davies said:
I'm not here for an argument mate, but when you say the cost to build COMS was £130M, is that pre or post City paying to finish it?
If it includes City's contribution, then we're about the same
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The cost was GBP 130 million before City paid to fit it out. But City did reimburse the Council's GBP 33 million contribution, paying GBP 6 million in cash and transferring Maine Road, which was valued at GBP 27 million in the club's accounts.

However, as I recall, a response to a later FoI request stated that MCC received around half that sum when they sold the site for housing. Of course, they first tried to keep it going as a sports stadium but that didn't work out?
 
Gordyola said:
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Do you have a figure for subsequent years? IIRC, the reason for amending the rental provisions under the lease in 2011 was to take account of City having a right to expand the stadium.

The 2015/16 season was the first when the expanded South Stand was open. Maybe a different calculation will kick in at that point?
 
petrusha said:
City won't pay anywhere near 1 billion quid under the lease. The club has an option to buy the lease with rent already paid being set off against the purchase price.

That hasn't happened so far, because the money would go to Sport England. However, that stipulation ceases after a set period, which I believe is 25 years but the information isn't in the public domain. As I've posted on here before, the source for this information is David Bernstein at a meeting in Portcullis House, Westminster in January 2003.

You'll probably see the club buy out the lease after the deadline for paying Sport England expires. I suspect we may well transfer the lease to the ownership of the JV owned by the Council and the club in line with other land in and around the Campus, but let's see on that.



These figures aren't right, I'm afraid. I'm about to disappear for the evening but will look out the correct ones tomorrow morning. However, I can say for a start that COMS cost GBP 130 million, with Sport England paying an extra GBP 20 million to cover cost overruns before the Games.

Moreover, David Conn reported back in the day, and I think he's right, that the current annual rent is GBP 4 million. That includes a payment of GBP 1 million for the right to dispose of stadium naming rights. And I don't know why you think it should be measured how much of MCC's contribution the club has paid back but lottery funding ignored. I personally disagree, anyway.

From memory, but subject to subsequent clarification, City have currently paid about GBP 80 million of the GBP 130 million total cost of the stadium. When we end up owning it, we'll have more than paid the construction and conversion costs, unlike that catastrophe at West Ham, which has been and remains a huge drain on the public purse.
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Top man @petrusha - please can you tag us in the post so I can have a gooseys at the numbers once available.

This has taken on even more importance now the ball is starting to roll on this one............
 
jrb said:
Andy.

How much has Sheikh Mansour ploughed into East Manchester? Billions!

How much have the Glazers and Jim Radcliffe ploughed into Trafford? Nothing!

And they want public tax payers money via you and your United consortium to invest in infrastructure and in the area around the proposed new United stadium.
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One of the many things that pisses me off about this is the notion that investment and regeneration is needed in that area which is utter bollocks. It’s changed beyond recognition over the last decade or so due to major investments and development. The whole thing is a crock of shite.
 
Burnham lost the election for Labour leader in 2015, coming 2nd to Jeremy Corbyn with an outstandingly shite share of the vote - 19%. He managed to beat the intellectual might of Yvette Cooper and Liz Kendall though, so there were 2 worse candidates than him.

He always came across as a mumbling, bumbling lightweight, with a visible thought process, as his sentences slowly formed. Since then, he's gone stumbling into local politics and become a mouthpiece for not very much, but it's local and much easier than anything national. He'll support virtually anything populist as it's so easy to do.

Add in his monobrow and scouse accent to his anti-intellectualism, and you have a would-be, left wing Farage, without the charm.

Him and Scruffy Jim: what a combo!
 
jrb said:
Off the top of my head.

What Sheikh Mansour has contributed financially to.

Redeveloping the Etihad stadium.
The City Football Academy. CFA.
The South stand expansion.
The North stand expansion. On-going.
The Etihad Campus.
The Coop Live Arena.
A college, a leisure centre, and other local amenities.
The Collar site to come.

What the Glazser and Jim Redcliffe have contributed financially to.

(I’ll leave it blank
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I asked the report writers for a copy of the report to see how they would get to 90,000 jobs, that's more than worked in Trafford Park in it's heyday and about 70% of the numbers that work in Canary Wharf so that's not being replicated up North - no surprise no reply. Andy is right though we benefited from government investment into a state of the art transport system that opened before City started playing at the Etihad!
 
Oldtraffordblue1 said:
I asked the report writers for a copy of the report to see how they would get to 90,000 jobs, that's more than worked in Trafford Park in it's heyday and about 70% of the numbers that work in Canary Wharf so that's not being replicated up North - no surprise no reply. Andy is right though we benefited from government investment into a state of the art transport system that opened before City started playing at the Etihad!
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Not Andy’s fault.

The Metrolink line should have been ready for the Commonwealth Games. It opened 10 years later due to New Labour pulling the funding. It took 10 years to build a 2 mile Metrolink track from Piccadilly Train Station to the Etihad. 10 fucking years! In that time China has built numerous high speed train lines across China.
 
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