Andy Burnham | Manchester Mayor

mrbelfry said:
I still don't see where there is space. You've got white city and the big tesco on Chester Road. Across the canal is media city and the lowry. There's loads of hotels in spitting distance. Unless they put in a log flume what are they gonna add?
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I don't know mate. It's very rare I go down that side of Manchester. Occasional trip to the swamp, Bowlers or Victoria Warwhouse.
 
jrb said:
Really Andy?

Is that why City will pay £1bill over the 250 year lease deal for the Etihad stadium.

If City hadn’t moved to the City of Manchester stadium, as it was renamed, and paid for the North stand construction, the 2002 Commonwealth Games stadium would have remained a White Elephant.

Apart from that Andy, what other financial help have City received from you, that you are desperately trying to get for United?

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Nightmare Walking said:
I don't understand the hate here. There are as many United fans in Manchester as there are blues. There are probably more rags in Greater Manchester than there are blues.
Like it or not, United bring significant amounts of money into the City.
Investment to improve the infrastructure around Old Trafford is a good thing and it will benefit the whole City.
Now if this money is being diverted from Mancunian public services then it needs looking at and the benefits being scrutinised. But, if it's coming from central government, it can only be a good thing. The Tories would not have paid a penny to redevelop infrastructure in Manchester. When the IRA blew up the City Centre, was it not EU money that paid for the redevelopment? That investment totally changed Manchester for the better.
Investment is good. Let the rags pay for their stadium. But don't let your hate of the rags cloud your judgement. Investment brings opportunity and it make help improve your children's lives.
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No it was Government money.

it was led by led by Micheal Heseltine

it was the beginning of a succesful working partnership between the Conservative Government and the Labour run Manchester City Council.

When Conservative deputy prime minister Michael Heseltine arrived in Manchester a few days after the IRA bomb went off, on June 15, 1996, he already knew what must happen next.

Crucially he was willing to put his money where his mouth was, ensuring before he even got on the train at Euston that there would be cash to back it up.

And when he got to the town hall he found the council’s Labour leader - a man he knew well from working together on regeneration that was still underway in Hulme - was on the same page.

“I have a very clear memory of my journey to Manchester to meet Richard Leese and my thoughts at the time,” he recalls.

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk

Manchester bomb: What happened next changed the whole country

Michael Heseltine says the lessons learnt from Manchester's reaction to disaster helped shape the devolution agenda and build the Northern Powerhouse
www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk

Your’re right, any investment in Gtr Manchester is welcomed. But lets cut the PR bullshit out that the investment around the stadium is going to ripple across Gtr Manchester, the North West, and the North of England, creating 90,000 job opportunities, etc. It isn’t.

It will be decades before all of the proposals surrounding the new Old Trafford are completed. You only have to look at the Etihad Campus. 18 years after the Super Casino was proposed for the Collar site, the Collar site still remains updeveloped to this day.
 
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plattlanebenches said:
One of the many things that pisses me off about this is the notion that investment and regeneration is needed in that area which is utter bollocks. It’s changed beyond recognition over the last decade or so due to major investments and development. The whole thing is a crock of shite.
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All of the land on the plans, which is currently owned by the Glazers, is currently single storey warehouses. The companies using these warehouses pay rent to the Glazers. It provides very little to the local economy. Trafford wharf is mostly industrial, in comparison to Media City on the opposite side of the ship canal.

They are giving up this industrial land for the re-development of new homes. And in return, they want the council to step in and give them the freight terminal to build a new stadium on. Because the land that they currently own, has a main road, the bridgewater canal and a railway running through it.

The company that own the freight terminal, have already purchased land in St Helens for a new terminal that serves the North West.

*They actually purchased it in 2022, years before Burnham and Scruffy Jim got involved.*
 
Citi-leaks said:
All of the land on the plans, which is currently owned by the Glazers, is currently single storey warehouses. The companies using these warehouses pay rent to the Glazers. It provides very little to the local economy. Trafford wharf is mostly industrial, in comparison to Media City on the opposite side of the ship canal.

They are giving up this industrial land for the re-development of new homes. And in return, they want the council to step in and give them the freight terminal to build a new stadium on. Because the land that they currently own, has a main road, the bridgewater canal and a railway running through it.

The company that own the freight terminal, have already purchased land in St Helens for a new terminal that serves the North West.

*They actually purchased it in 2022, years before Burnham and Scruffy Jim got involved.*
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So all the Glazers are after is a land swap deal and no public subsidies?
 
dickie davies said:
And Burnham saying this will benefit the whole of the North, can someone explain to me how it will benefit Sheffield, Newcastle and Carlisle?
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I’m not his spokesman but his answer to that very question was that it will improve train services in and out of Manchester from all of those places.
 
When I first started in GMP a long long time ago (yes I know) Burnham was MP for Leigh.
One Friday he rang up and I happened to speak to him on this call. This is virtually word for word as I remember.

' Greater Manchester police, how.can I help you'

AB' Yes this is Member of Parliament Andy Burnham'

'How can I help you MR BURNHAM'? Note the emphasis on his name.

AB - 'Yes, the residents of Leigh are complaining about the numerous off road bikes and anti social behaviour around West Leigh this evening, can you send the police please?'

'Of course. I will send the police when they become available from dealing with some higher priority incidents that are ongoing. Unfortunateley I cannot give you any timescale but have graded this on a 4hr response'

AB - 'What incidents are more important than Anti social behaviour?'

'Well there are currently around 50 higher priority jobs including missing children, domestic violence incidents and a serious assault'

AB - 'Well its clear you need to find some more resources as my constituents are not happy'

'Mr Burnham, with all due respect, due to austerity, your government cut police numbers so much that this is the reality of modern day policing. I cannot send resources I do not have'

He asked for the incident number and hung up.

Ever since that day, I knew he was a **** and always will be a **** trying to pressure me by saying he was an MP to giving him some sort of preferential treatment. I am not.surprised this **** is in bed with united. Fucking prick
 
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jrb said:
Really Andy?

Is that why City will pay £1bill over the 250 year lease deal for the Etihad stadium.

If City hadn’t moved to the City of Manchester stadium, as it was renamed, and paid for the North stand construction, the 2002 Commonwealth Games stadium would have remained a White Elephant.

Apart from that Andy, what other financial help have City received from you, that you are desperately trying to get for United?

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Wanker ...... him not you.
 
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Everyone on here knows how long a stadium takes to design and build, never mind buying the land to build it on. It took Spurs 3 years to build their new stadium. It took many more years of design, planning, and funding before the build. Spurs stadium is 62,000 capacity. United want a 100,000 capacity. It took 5 years to build Wembley. All the other proposals surrounding the new Old Trafford will take decades to be build. I’ll be dead by then. :-)
 
jrb said:
No it was Government money.

it was led by led by Micheal Heseltine

it was the beginning of a succesful working partnership between the Conservatine Government and the Labour run Manchester City Council.

When Conservative deputy prime minister Michael Heseltine arrived in Manchester a few days after the IRA bomb went off, on June 15, 1996, he already knew what must happen next.

Crucially he was willing to put his money where his mouth was, ensuring before he even got on the train at Euston that there would be cash to back it up.

And when he got to the town hall he found the council’s Labour leader - a man he knew well from working together on regeneration that was still underway in Hulme - was on the same page.

“I have a very clear memory of my journey to Manchester to meet Richard Leese and my thoughts at the time,” he recalls.

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk

Manchester bomb: What happened next changed the whole country

Michael Heseltine says the lessons learnt from Manchester's reaction to disaster helped shape the devolution agenda and build the Northern Powerhouse
www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk

Your’re right, any investment in Gtr Manchester is welcomed. But lets cut the PR bullshit out that the investment around the stadium is going to ripple across Gtr Manchester, the North West, and the North of England, creating 90,000 job opportunities, etc. It isn’t.

That apart, it will be decades before all the proposals surrounding the new Old Trafford are completed. You only have to look at the Etihad Campus. 18 years after the Super Casino was proposed for the Collar site, the Collar site still remains updeveloped to this day.
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Heseltine played an absolute blinder for Manchester and Salford back then when Manchester was on its arse . Probably the only Tory that has ever done so , a very rare honest and decent Tory indeed . You are right about the process the rags are in it will probably take at least a decade for everything to take shape , meanwhile the swamp keeps on leaking and falling apart !
Politics eh ! ;-)
 
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mrbelfry said:
I still don't see where there is space. You've got white city and the big tesco on Chester Road. Across the canal is media city and the lowry. There's loads of hotels in spitting distance. Unless they put in a log flume what are they gonna add?
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TBF I'll hate them just a little less if they put in a log flume. The end drop should be that big hole in the swamp roof with a straight plunge down into row L where all the water goes anyhow. Wwwwwhhhheeeeeeeeeeee!
 
So called socialist mayor getting giddy with a non dom who’s a quarter share holder who’s governed by a failed US outfit.
Pleading for UK tax payers money for private enterprise
Its like a Central American El chappo documentary,
And we’re on 11,500 charges !!!
Do me a fookin favour.
Where does this fuckin end ?
 
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